Two questions: (1) Cigars and (2) Extra Supers 
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 Two questions: (1) Cigars and (2) Extra Supers
I have two questions which have been on my mind recently.

1.  I have two new hives (Buckfast variety) and they are now about 4-5 weeks
old.  I tried using a regular smoker but find it a pain to keep lit.  If I
am REALLY diligent I can keep it going but it seems a pain.  I occasionally
smoke cigars (maybe once a month, maybe) and wondered if anyone has used a
cigar as the "smoke source" rather than the smoker contraption.  It seems
like an easy way to deal with supplying them with smoke and remain lit.
Any experiences with cigars and bees? Good?  Bad? (other than to me that is)
Opinions?

2.  As I stated above my two new hives (I'm new at this too) are fairly new.
Currently they are within one brood super (per hive) with reinforced
foundation.  They seem to be creating comb and storing feeder syrup and
pollen at a fast rate (maybe 1/3 to 1/2 filled already.)  Is there any
disadvantage to adding supers now?  Even if they haven't filled what they
have now?  What are the problems with adding supers too early?

Patrick Dugan



Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:40:17 GMT
 Two questions: (1) Cigars and (2) Extra Supers
What smoker fuel are you using?  I started off with rolled up corrugated
cardboard but after using hessian sacking I have been converted.  Cooler
denser smoke, easier to light and more fragrant.
To keep a smoker lit, never place it on its side but keep upright unless
operating the bellows.   The bigger smokers are easier to use and you can
also use large chunks of rotten wood in them.  As for using only a cigar for
smoking the bees... Do you intend to work without a veil or make a handy
hole in it for the cigar.  If the bees are ever really cross you will be
glad for having a well lit smoker.
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> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:40:17 -0500
> Subject: Two questions:  (1) Cigars  and  (2)  Extra Supers

> I have two questions which have been on my mind recently.

> 1.  I have two new hives (Buckfast variety) and they are now about 4-5 weeks
> old.  I tried using a regular smoker but find it a pain to keep lit.  If I
> am REALLY diligent I can keep it going but it seems a pain.  I occasionally
> smoke cigars (maybe once a month, maybe) and wondered if anyone has used a
> cigar as the "smoke source" rather than the smoker contraption.  It seems
> like an easy way to deal with supplying them with smoke and remain lit.
> Any experiences with cigars and bees? Good?  Bad? (other than to me that is)
> Opinions?

> 2.  As I stated above my two new hives (I'm new at this too) are fairly new.
> Currently they are within one brood super (per hive) with reinforced
> foundation.  They seem to be creating comb and storing feeder syrup and
> pollen at a fast rate (maybe 1/3 to 1/2 filled already.)  Is there any
> disadvantage to adding supers now?  Even if they haven't filled what they
> have now?  What are the problems with adding supers too early?

> Patrick Dugan



Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:40:00 GMT
 Two questions: (1) Cigars and (2) Extra Supers

Quote:

> I have two questions which have been on my mind recently.

> 1.  I have two new hives (Buckfast variety) and they are now about 4-5 weeks
> old.  I tried using a regular smoker but find it a pain to keep lit.  If I
> am REALLY diligent I can keep it going but it seems a pain.  I occasionally
> smoke cigars (maybe once a month, maybe) and wondered if anyone has used a
> cigar as the "smoke source" rather than the smoker contraption.  It seems
> like an easy way to deal with supplying them with smoke and remain lit.
> Any experiences with cigars and bees? Good?  Bad? (other than to me that is)
> Opinions?

 Lighting,and keeping a smoker going is no big deal once you learn
how.There was a recent discussion here on that subject.As for blowing
cigar smoke on the bees ,I do that on occasion when checking an odd
hive when I dont want to go to the trouble of putting on a veil.There
is no guarantee that a bee wont fly up and sting you on the nose while
doing so,however.

Quote:

> 2.  As I stated above my two new hives (I'm new at this too) are fairly new.
> Currently they are within one brood super (per hive) with reinforced
> foundation.  They seem to be creating comb and storing feeder syrup and
> pollen at a fast rate (maybe 1/3 to 1/2 filled already.)  Is there any
> disadvantage to adding supers now?  Even if they haven't filled what they
> have now?  What are the problems with adding supers too early?

 If the second is put on the package hive before a substantial amount
of new bees have emerged you could slow down the buildup,especially if
the nights are still cold.Wait too long,and feed too much you could
cause them to swarm if they get too crowded.judgement is called for
and you will have to learn this by trial and error.If they seem strong
and are covering 8 frames you are probably OK to add the second.If it
is foundation rather than drawn comb you should keep feeding unless a
strong nectarflow is coming in.Good luck with your new hives
-----Mike


Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:07:05 GMT
 
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