"styx" numbers for boron hydrides 
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 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides

"styx numbers" were introduced by Lipscomb of Harvard University in
1954 to describe variety of bond patterns in polyhedral boranes.Each
letter in styx represents one type of building block or structural
linkage in boranes and once we know the STYX numbers for a given
borane we can easliy draw its structure. The most probable structure
being the most symetrical.

  I was wondering what does "styx" stand for? Are these letters
(s,t,y,x) used in topology or a part of Lipscomb's creative
imagination?

Thanks



Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:34:51 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides

Quote:

> "styx numbers" were introduced by Lipscomb of Harvard University in
> 1954 to describe variety of bond patterns in polyhedral boranes.Each
> letter in styx represents one type of building block or structural
> linkage in boranes and once we know the STYX numbers for a given
> borane we can easliy draw its structure. The most probable structure
> being the most symetrical.
>   I was wondering what does "styx" stand for? Are these letters
> (s,t,y,x) used in topology or a part of Lipscomb's creative
> imagination?

Since I had been writing on boric acid and wood treatment this article
attracted my attention.

This is quite a bit off topic for chemistry and Freemasonry but for some
time I have been trying to probe into the area, and some Freemasons, or
several writers on alt.freemasonry anyway, like to give some attention to
mystic connections of numbers.

My area is `funzy logic' a sort of connection of fuzzy logic and funny, or
peculiar logic.

Fusseigenvalues could be the peculiar solutions the string equations
connecting similar sounding, looking, spelled, numbered, timed, &c.
entityvents when looked at with low resolution.

There is a suggestion of that in the article I am replying to? Maybe it is
done quite a bit for names of pharmaceutical {*filter*}.

Borax = anti-borer

Boric acid has been fairly recently prohibited as a cooking.net">food
preservative/treatment of spoiled food. I am wondering if there will be
any effect on health. Boron in the diet is known to ward off osteoporosis
is post-menopausal women. Maybe we shall see it increase with the stopping
of boric preservation.

Boron stimulates production of estrogen/testosterone. I don't know if
there maybe a problem there for prostatic enlargement - other things may
need to be considered. But it can reduce loss of magnesium, too and help
the heart health.

Boron - born?

The River Styx leads to Hades.

Please continue

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Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:19:53 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides
On 19 Apr 2003 21:19:53 -0500, Brian Sandle

Quote:

>> "styx numbers" were introduced by Lipscomb of Harvard University in
>> 1954 to describe variety of bond patterns in polyhedral boranes.Each
>> letter in styx represents one type of building block or structural
>> linkage in boranes and once we know the STYX numbers for a given
>> borane we can easliy draw its structure. The most probable structure
>> being the most symetrical.

>>   I was wondering what does "styx" stand for? Are these letters
>> (s,t,y,x) used in topology or a part of Lipscomb's creative
>> imagination?

>Since I had been writing on boric acid and wood treatment this article
>attracted my attention.

>This is quite a bit off topic for chemistry and Freemasonry

Then why are you posting it in those venues.

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David Simpson (Remove "farook" to reply)
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Bad manners should not be a capital crime ...
for a first offence.
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Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:27:02 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides

Quote:
> On 19 Apr 2003 21:19:53 -0500, Brian Sandle
>>This is quite a bit off topic for chemistry and Freemasonry
> Then why are you posting it in those venues.

Someone wrote recently that he uses alt.freemasonry to contact other
Freemasons, and to find out about Freemasonry.

Same thing I am doing.

You have your own ideas about Freemasonry. Then you have the ideas you put
across when answering me.

It has been explained to you that `Freemasonry Today' carries writing on
the mystical significance of numbers, and that it is lectured about in
some Freemasonry meetings. But when someone pointed that out to you you
said he was supporting a troll.

So while my article was rather off topic I was hoping to contact people
whose interests may be to extend the fringe areas of the subjects a
little.

For you to be so vehement about my not using OT when others you allow,
seems to indicate something.

Numbers have mystical connections. Letters too?

I see on another thread you are relating honour and honesty. So it will
become a matter of `honesty' to call someone a troll who wants to see if
how certain members of society use letters may be affecting others, in the
same way over-assertive handshaking may be affecting others by passing on
SARS.

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Fri, 07 Oct 2005 06:49:08 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides
I apologise to readers who are not concerned.

On 20 Apr 2003 17:49:08 -0500, Brian Sandle

Quote:

>> On 19 Apr 2003 21:19:53 -0500, Brian Sandle
>>>This is quite a bit off topic for chemistry and Freemasonry

>> Then why are you posting it in those venues.

>Someone wrote recently that he uses alt.freemasonry to contact other
>Freemasons, and to find out about Freemasonry.

When are *you* going to ask something about Freemasonry or, in this
case, about chemistry? You ask questions and when it is explained to
you that the question is off topic you ignore the poster and waffle on
about the subject and claim that some other poster, who has already
been explained to you as being an off topic nutter, posts about this
rubbish and therefore you should be permitted to as well.

The simple answer, Brian, is that we cannot stop you from posting to
a.f or s.c. We are asking you to remain on topic. You consistently
refuse and complain when you get abused. If you remained on topic then
you would receive reasonable answers. By the way I have never referred
to you as a troll. I think I will do so from now on. After all if it
quacks like a duck ...

--
Regards
David Simpson (Remove "farook" to reply)
(Unattached MM)
Bad manners should not be a capital crime ...
for a first offence.
Robert Heinlein, "Time Enough For Love"



Sat, 08 Oct 2005 04:32:13 GMT
 "styx" numbers for boron hydrides

Quote:
> I apologise to readers who are not concerned.
> On 20 Apr 2003 17:49:08 -0500, Brian Sandle


>>> On 19 Apr 2003 21:19:53 -0500, Brian Sandle
>>>>This is quite a bit off topic for chemistry and Freemasonry

>>> Then why are you posting it in those venues.

>>Someone wrote recently that he uses alt.freemasonry to contact other
>>Freemasons, and to find out about Freemasonry.

> When are *you* going to ask something about Freemasonry or, in this
> case,

I know you will continue to deny Freemasonry's mystical significance of
numbers.

Quote:
> about chemistry?

As a school teacher you passed on a syllabus. And that is what you think
chemistry is. Nomenclature is taught, but not much about how it is thought
up. So you would not consider how chemical nomenclature is thought up to
be part of chemistry.

If you search google groups for my articles you will find how the
Theosophists called a substance they could see `occultum' presumably
because of its hiddenness to the chemical procedures of the time. Now we
see it has the name `tritium'.

Now we have been asked why `styx' has been used in connection with boron
molecule geometry. So you say we need a separate newsgroup for chemical
nomenclature formation, because it is nothing to do with `actual
chemistry'. In `actual chemistry' you just accept the naming conventions,
don't even consider questioning them.  You totally wipe such
considerations from your mind, and get on with honourably finding out
about the chemistry.

 You ask questions and when it is explained to

Quote:
> you that the question is off topic you ignore the poster and waffle on
> about the subject and claim that some other poster, who has already
> been explained to you as being an off topic nutter, posts about this
> rubbish and therefore you should be permitted to as well.
> The simple answer, Brian, is that we cannot stop you from posting to
> a.f or s.c. We are asking you to remain on topic. You consistently
> refuse and complain when you get abused. If you remained on topic then
> you would receive reasonable answers. By the way I have never referred
> to you as a troll.

Then which troll were you refering to Peter as supporting?

 I think I will do so from now on. After all if it

Quote:
> quacks like a duck ...

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Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:54:04 GMT
 
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