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>Well, why are you here?

    To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would actually
contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife deaths.


Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:07:30 GMT
 What are you doing here?


Quote:

> [...]

> >Well, why are you here?

>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
actually
> contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife deaths.

We don't agree on much David, and we have had a few arguments in the
past.but I would
never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.

Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have not
bothered to respond
to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to 'Usenet' in
their present manner?
Or perhaps they just consider me a prat, either way I don't give a damn.

Should this be the case, we all waste our time.

Long may we continue to try and kick the {*filter*}out of each other, but at
least let's do it under our own name.

ECT, plays hell with the memory, let's hope he has forgotten the 'Nym' he is
using this week.

What the stupid {*filter*}ing Gonad fails to remember, is that nobody cares.

He's in self destruct mode, and nobody has the key.

RIP. JB.



Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:03:25 GMT
 What are you doing here?


Quote:




>> [...]

>> >Well, why are you here?

>>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
>actually
>> contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife deaths.

>We don't agree on much David, and we have had a few arguments in the
>past.but I would
>never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.

Stop fraternizing with the enemy or you'll find yourself on a charge.

Quote:
>Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have not
>bothered to respond
>to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to 'Usenet' in
>their present manner?
>Or perhaps they just consider me a prat, either way I don't give a damn.

>Should this be the case, we all waste our time.

>Long may we continue to try and kick the {*filter*}out of each other, but at
>least let's do it under our own name.

Nymshifting is  very effective Ray. It stops people building a history
against you, which is quite important because even telling someone to
{*filter*} off is an offense. It circumvents kill filters which is the best
poke in the eye known to man. Not to mention it winds the net nannys
up something rotten.

I say nymshifting is a must.

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Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:23:44 GMT
 What are you doing here?


Quote:





> >> [...]

> >> >Well, why are you here?

> >>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
> >actually
> >> contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife
deaths.

> >We don't agree on much David, and we have had a few arguments in the
> >past.but I would
> >never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.

> Stop fraternizing with the enemy or you'll find yourself on a charge.

> >Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have not
> >bothered to respond
> >to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to 'Usenet'
in
> >their present manner?
> >Or perhaps they just consider me a prat, either way I don't give a damn.

> >Should this be the case, we all waste our time.

> >Long may we continue to try and kick the {*filter*}out of each other, but at
> >least let's do it under our own name.

> Nymshifting is  very effective Ray. It stops people building a history
> against you, which is quite important because even telling someone to
> {*filter*} off is an offense. It circumvents kill filters which is the best
> poke in the eye known to man. Not to mention it winds the net nannys
> up something rotten.

> I say nymshifting is a must.

Right, but only to certain point.
You only have to look at last weeks posts, you don't know WTF you are
posting to, look at the time I wasted! An e-mail would have prevented this!
Headers are changed, and it was only the time zone which caught him out.

When you get to this stage, you have to ask yourself the question, am I here
for myself or the cause I am supposed to support.
I could put the question to you, but I already know the answer.

Last weeks postings can only damage the cause we support - don't you agree?
It's the type of thing we expect from Jonny, if you start the caper of
changing headers you put yourself on the same level.

Nymshifting is fine, provided it is done via a remailer, then we all know
who we are talking to:-)

Whch ever way you look at it last week was infighting, and a {*filter*}ing waste
of time, and I know the reason!

Racism.

If people on our side wish to tackle me on the subject, right, I'm here. I'm
not going to throw teddy or golly (oops) out of the pram.
If it's decided that my views are causing the AR side some damage, right,
I'll leave. I'm here for AR, not myself.

Simple as that.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> Cheerio,

>            SUPPORT ISRAEL

> Myths & Facts Online
> A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict
> By Mitchell G. Bard

> http://www.***.com/

>     +------------------------+
>     |  NO PLONKING ZONE      |
>     +------------------------+
>          | |            |
>          | |            | |
>        ..| |..         .| |..
>      ...\| |/....      \| |/..

> **********************************************

> 'You can't win 'em all.'
> Lord Haw Haw.

> Since I stopped donating money to CONservation hooligan charities
> Like the RSPB, Woodland Trust and all the other fat cat charities
> I am in the top 0.217% richest people in the world.
> There are 5,986,950,449  people poorer than me

> If you're really interested I am the 13,049,551
> richest person in the world.

> And I'm keeping the {*filter*}y lot.

> So sue me.

> http://www.***.com/

> Newsgroup ettiquette

> 1) Tell everyone the Trolls don't bother you.
> 2) Say you've killfiled them, yet continue to respond.
> 3) Tell other people off who repsond despite doing so yourself.
> 4) Continually talk about Trolls while maintaining
>     they're having no effect.
> 5)  Publicly post killfile rules so the Trolls know
>     how to avoid them.
> 6)  Make lame legal threats and other barrel scraping
>     manoeuvres when your abuse reports are ignored.
> 7)  Eat vast quantities of pies.
> 8)  Forget to brush your teeth for several decades.
> 9)  Help a demon.local poster with their email while
>     secretly reading it.
> 10) Pretend you're a hard bastard when in fact you're
>     as bent as a roundabout.
> 11) Become the laughing stock of Usenet like Mabbet
> 12) Die of old age
> 13) Keep paying Dr Chartham his fees and hope one day you
>     will have a {*filter*} the girls can see.

> ---------------------------------------

> "If you would'nt talk to them in a bar, don't *uckin' vote for them"

> "Australia was not *discovered* it was invaded"
> The Big Yin.

> Need a fake diploma for fun? contact my collegues Malcolm Ogilvie
> or Michael Saunby who both bought one and got one free, only $15 each,
> have as many as you like www.fakediplomas.com



Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:19:17 GMT
 What are you doing here?

Quote:




>> [...]

>> >Well, why are you here?

>>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
>actually
>> contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife deaths.

>We don't agree on much David,

    We might actually agree on as much or more than we disagree
on, but just don't discuss many of those topics.

Quote:
>and we have had a few arguments in the
>past.but I would
>never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.

>Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have not
>bothered to respond
>to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to 'Usenet' in
>their present manner?

    I feel sure they do. We probably would agree that it's hard to understand
how people can feel good about themselves for the dishonest lowlife
techniques they stoop to using. And maybe how lying about other peoples'
beliefs makes them "think" that they have even *attempted* to oppose those
beliefs, much less how they are stupid enough to "think" that by doing so
they have had some type of victory.

Quote:
>Or perhaps they just consider me a prat,

    Or in this case maybe a pain in theirs :-)

Quote:
>either way I don't give a damn.

>Should this be the case, we all waste our time.

>Long may we continue to try and kick the {*filter*}out of each other, but at
>least let's do it under our own name.

    Or at least maintain an ID so people have an idea who we are.

Quote:
>ECT, plays hell with the memory, let's hope he has forgotten the 'Nym' he is
>using this week.

    I'm guessing you're referring to the Gonad there...or at least as one of "they"
(I'm unfamiliar with the particular incident(s) you're posting about). The Gonad
is without question the most extreme case of: "how the hell could a person feel
good about behaving like that???" I've ever seen. He lies, posts as numerous
characters, acts incredibly childish and inconsiderate, etc..., but somehow he
must feel good about himself for doing all that, otherwise he would go about it
differently. So how could he feel good about it? By now I'm convinced it's
because he's a dishonest "ARA".
    What character(s) did he post as lately? I'd like to add any new ones to the list.

Quote:
>What the stupid {*filter*}ing Gonad fails to remember, is that nobody cares.

    It appears to me that his main objective is to destroy respectable discussions,
and the reason for that is so that people won't seriously consider and/or discuss
any alternatives to the "AR" elimination objective.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
>He's in self destruct mode, and nobody has the key.

>RIP. JB.



Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:01:24 GMT
 What are you doing here?


Quote:













>> >> >> [...]

>> >> >> >Well, why are you here?

>> >> >>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism which would
>> >> >actually
>> >> >> contribute to better lives for farm animals, and to less wildlife
>> >deaths.

>> >> >We don't agree on much David, and we have had a few arguments in the
>> >> >past.but I would
>> >> >never accuse you of 'Nymshifting', or personal glorification.

>> >> Stop fraternizing with the enemy or you'll find yourself on a charge.

>> >> >Interesting to note that the people responsible ( on both sides) have
>not
>> >> >bothered to respond
>> >> >to my message. Could it be that they wish to continue posting to
>'Usenet'
>> >in
>> >> >their present manner?
>> >> >Or perhaps they just consider me a prat, either way I don't give a
>damn.

>> >> >Should this be the case, we all waste our time.

>> >> >Long may we continue to try and kick the {*filter*}out of each other, but
>at
>> >> >least let's do it under our own name.

>> >> Nymshifting is  very effective Ray. It stops people building a history
>> >> against you, which is quite important because even telling someone to
>> >> {*filter*} off is an offense. It circumvents kill filters which is the best
>> >> poke in the eye known to man. Not to mention it winds the net nannys
>> >> up something rotten.

>> >> I say nymshifting is a must.

>> >Right, but only to certain point.
>> >You only have to look at last weeks posts, you don't know WTF you are
>> >posting to, look at the time I wasted!

>> You don't waste anything if you only respond to content. It's what
>> someone says, not who they are. On that basis it doesn't matter who
>> posts what, if it's worthy of praise give it, worthy of derision give.

>> I can take both.

>> > An e-mail would have prevented this!

>> Separate cells is the way to go.  Links to each other not recommended.

>> >Headers are changed, and it was only the time zone which caught him out.

>> Why did you need that. Could you not decide based on the content?
>> Forget who it is and concentrate on what it is saying.

>> Would you slag JB of if he supported ARs in a particular view?

>> >When you get to this stage, you have to ask yourself the question, am I
>here
>> >for myself or the cause I am supposed to support.

>> You are here to support ARs and nothing else. Oh, and have a laugh
>> too.

>> >I could put the question to you, but I already know the answer.

>> >Last weeks postings can only damage the cause we support - don't you
>agree?

>> Not really. The end result is to spread the word. Nobody listens to
>> infighting from either side. Best bet is to ignore non ARAs, but that
>> would be too easy.
>It's not non ARs I am posting against, that's my point.

It doesn't matter. Just because we support the same team doesn't mean
we HAVE to get on at all.

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

>> >It's the type of thing we expect from Jonny, if you start the caper of
>> >changing headers you put yourself on the same level.

>> No you don't.

>> >Nymshifting is fine, provided it is done via a remailer, then we all know
>> >who we are talking to:-)

>> Lol no you don't. Over 7 million people use remailers, they cant all
>> be the same person.

>This was not a remailer. It was a fellow ARA taking the piss, for political
>reasons.

>> >Whch ever way you look at it last week was infighting, and a {*filter*}ing
>waste
>> >of time, and I know the reason!

>> Who cares ray?

>I Do, time is money.I don't want to spend my time having an argument with
>somone who thinks he shares the same views as me, but for other reasons he
>posts as someone else. The very least he could have done is to inform me via
>e-mail.

So don't talk to him.

Quote:
>> >Racism.

>> ARAs and non ARAs can be racist, so what. Racism is not the privilege
>> of the rich.

>> >If people on our side wish to tackle me on the subject, right, I'm here.

>> I just did.

>yes and you are supporting a timewaster

No. I support ARs.

Quote:
>> > I'm
>> >not going to throw teddy or golly (oops) out of the pram.

>> Ever?

>Well, a bit.

>> >If it's decided that my views are causing the AR side some damage, right,

>> We are only human. You can be a racist jack the ripper {*filter*} and
>> still support ARs, who gives a {*filter*} what anyone else says?

>When it comes from the side I support I do.

There are no sides. You support ARs.

Quote:
>> >I'll leave. I'm here for AR, not myself.

>> Now you are being a tart.

>No way, if my racist postings are a blight on the movement ! will leave.
>It's more important than my views.

Your racist views are your own, what you do with them is up to you.
either way you can still support ARs.

Quote:
>> >Simple as that.

>> It is.

>> Your support for ARs is needed. If you are racist, black and a pagan
>> too that's your problem and no one elses so don't give a flying {*filter*}
>> what they or anyone else says.

>Fair enough, but a team gets better results. A chain is only as strong as
>it's weakest link.

Well get that idea out of your head. We're not a team here.

Quote:
>> As for hypocrisy, life is full of it and we all subscribe to it in one
>> way or another. Sticks and stones..............

>Yes, but if you are fighting  the enemy from the front, the last thing you
>want is a back stabber, seeking to take the{*filter*}for his own gratification.

That's life. Kick him back then.

Quote:

>> I judge your ARs views on what they are, not on who you are.

>That's the way it should be.

>But it's not.

>Now some explanation is long overdue from the poster in question.

Swinging handbags is not allowed.


Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:43:01 GMT
 What are you doing here?


<snip>

Thanks,

It's often better to look at things from  another persons perspective.

But some of the c'nuts really get on my bristol's.



Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:15:48 GMT
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Quote:


> [...]

>>Well, why are you here?

>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.


Wed, 30 May 2007 01:26:10 GMT
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Quote:


>> [...]

>>>Well, why are you here?

>>     To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

> What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.

August 12th? That's rather a long time in the past. I do not even remember
the posting or it's connections with the subject matter. I do note your
'EarthLink' connections, so with respect, please do one.


Thu, 31 May 2007 03:00:11 GMT
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Quote:





>>>[...]

>>>>Well, why are you here?

>>>    To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

>>What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.

> August 12th? That's rather a long time in the past. I do not even remember

That's what abuse of {*filter*} will do to you.

You lump of shit.



Thu, 31 May 2007 03:21:27 GMT
 What are you doing here?
Dump Slater, drunk ordinaire, belched:

Quote:




>>>[...]

>>>>Well, why are you here?

>>>    To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

>>What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.

> August 12th? That's rather a long time in the past. I do not even remember

That's what abuse of {*filter*} will do to you.

You lump of shit.



Thu, 31 May 2007 03:26:09 GMT
 What are you doing here?


Quote:
> Dump Slater, drunk ordinaire, belched:





>>>>[...]

>>>>>Well, why are you here?

>>>>    To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

>>>What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.

>> August 12th? That's rather a long time in the past. I do not even
>> remember

> That's what abuse of {*filter*} will do to you.

> You lump of shit.

Jay Santos?

Lump of shit strained:

Another one to add to the list of Jon Ball "Nyms".

Do you think Newsgroups are actually important Jon?
They're not, you have a go at the Vegan/Vegetarian camps and they respond -
end of story.
Not much of a life is it?

Have you really been in "Nick" or just reflecting on your past wasted time
on the groups.?

Tell you what Jonboy, at 1.91 or 1.92 exchange rate it's like "Double Your
Money", yes you are old enough to remember the programme. Now what I really
need is a sponsor for a six month working visa?

 Any Chance?



Thu, 31 May 2007 22:59:45 GMT
 What are you doing here?

Quote:



>> Dump Slater, drunk ordinaire, belched:





>>>>>[...]

>>>>>>Well, why are you here?

>>>>>    To point out that there are alternatives to veg*nism

>>>>What you point out is irrational bullshit, {*filter*}wit.

>>> August 12th? That's rather a long time in the past. I do not even
>>> remember

>> That's what abuse of {*filter*} will do to you.

>> You lump of shit.

>Jay Santos?

>Lump of shit strained:

>Another one to add to the list of Jon Ball "Nyms".

    Here's what I've got so far:

Jonathan Ball
Citizen
Benfez
Wilson Woods
Radical Moderate
Bingo
Edward
George
Bill
Fred
Mystery Poster
Merlin the dog
Bob the dog

elvira
Dieter


Abner Hale
Roger Whitaker
{*filter*}tard
Apoo
Ted Bell

Jay Santos



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