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Ton
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 New to soft toric lenses
I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
(over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
them.
On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
cheaper).
I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
putting in drops several times an hour.
While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
with the torics.
I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
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| Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:53:09 GMT |
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Mark
#2 / 10
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New to soft toric lenses Probably get a better response if you include your eye prescription details.
Quote: > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> them.
> On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> cheaper).
> I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> putting in drops several times an hour.
> While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> with the torics.
> I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> Any feedback is appreciated.
> Thanks,
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| Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:31:20 GMT |
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Otis Bro
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New to soft toric lenses
Dear Tona,
Astigmatism can vary depending on measurement conditions.
Could you check your prescription and tell us
how much astigmatism you have?
Best,
Otis
Quote: > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> them.
> On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> cheaper).
> I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> putting in drops several times an hour.
> While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> with the torics.
> I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> Any feedback is appreciated.
> Thanks,
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| Sat, 11 Mar 2006 22:35:26 GMT |
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drfrank
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New to soft toric lenses Quote:
> I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> them.
> On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> cheaper).
> I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> putting in drops several times an hour.
> While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> with the torics.
> I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> Any feedback is appreciated.
> Thanks,
If the astigmatism is borderline and you weren't having much problems with eye strain or blurred vision it's quite okay to stay in spherical lenses (ie. acuvues 2's). Many times the torics can cause more problems than they're solving, especially with lower levels of astigmatism. If you've been in 3 different torics without much success, I'd just switch you back to the av'2's. frank
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| Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:17:27 GMT |
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Dan Ab
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New to soft toric lenses
Quote: > > On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> > developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> > and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> > for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> > cheaper).
They certainly are much more expensive. For that reason, I've worn a combination of sperical and toric contact lenses over the years, as my vision has changed. Quote: > > These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> > maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> > around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> > driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> > putting in drops several times an hour.
I've never had these problems. The spherical and toric lenses worked pretty much the same for me. If I had your problems I would also seriously think about going back to sphericals. Quote: > > I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> > I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> > crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
You are the only person who knows. Have your OD show you the difference using his machine, and decide for yourself whether it's worth trying anything more. Quote: > > Does anyone have any suggestions?
Sounds like you should consider going back to sphericals. The torics work great for some people, but for others they move around. I've had a little problem with them moving but mostly they stay in the right place. Quote: > If the astigmatism is borderline and you weren't having much problems
> with eye strain or blurred vision it's quite okay to stay
> in spherical lenses (ie. acuvues 2's). Many times the torics can
> cause more problems than they're solving, especially with lower levels
> of astigmatism. If you've been in 3 different torics without much
> success, I'd just switch you back to the av'2's.
What he said. I'm just a patient, age 53, who has worn both spherical and toric contacts for the last ten years. For five years, I wore contacts exclusively. --
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
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| Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:04:10 GMT |
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Ton
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New to soft toric lenses My prescription is: OD sph: -3.75, Cyl. -2.00 Axis 180 OS shp: -5.00, Cyl. -1.50 Axis 180 Quote:
> Dear Tona,
> Astigmatism can vary depending on measurement conditions.
> Could you check your prescription and tell us
> how much astigmatism you have?
> Best,
> Otis
> > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> > (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> > week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> > them.
> > On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> > developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> > and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> > for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> > cheaper).
> > I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> > Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> > much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> > different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> > painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> > get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> > These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> > maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> > around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> > driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> > putting in drops several times an hour.
> > While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> > them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> > these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> > could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> > eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> > with the torics.
> > I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> > I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> > crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> > different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> > lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > Thanks,
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The Real Be
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New to soft toric lenses Quote:
> My prescription is:
> OD sph: -3.75, Cyl. -2.00 Axis 180
> OS shp: -5.00, Cyl. -1.50 Axis 180
> > Dear Tona,
> > Astigmatism can vary depending on measurement conditions.
> > Could you check your prescription and tell us
> > how much astigmatism you have?
> > > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> > > (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> > > week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> > > them.
> > > On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> > > developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> > > and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> > > for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> > > cheaper).
$50-55 for half a dozen Frequency 55 torics? I can wear mine for 2.5 months or so. Could be better, but could be way worse. I NEED the astigmatism correction. Quote: > > > I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> > > Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> > > much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> > > different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> > > painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> > > get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> > > These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> > > maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> > > around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> > > driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> > > putting in drops several times an hour.
> > > While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> > > them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> > > these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> > > could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> > > eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> > > with the torics.
I can't sleep in mine even for a short 15-minute nap, but I can use Rite-Aid Renu-clone and wear them 18 hours/day if necessary. Some days the vision is worse than others, but it took months of trials to arrive at these -- "acceptable" is good enough, and at best it's better than with my glasses. Your experience is similar to mine with the dozen or so sets of trial
lenses, both RGP and soft, multifocal and single-vision, over a period of
8 months or so, and that means to me that yours just don't fit right.
Quote: > > > I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> > > I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> > > crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
You have to decide. I couldn't get along without the astigmatism correction, but others can. Quote: > > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> > > different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> > > lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> > > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > > Thanks,
Go back to the fitter. If they fit that badly he shouldn't have let you order a full year's supply. And check Costco for prices, even with the membership (which you could share with a friend) you'd probably be ahead of the game. --
Cheers,
Bev
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While you can't fool all the people all the time, you can fool
enough of them most of the time to make the rest impotent.
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| Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:23:47 GMT |
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Dr. Leukom
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New to soft toric lenses At least on paper, it appears that your prescription justifies the recommendation of toric lenses. However, if you were satisfied with your previous vision (no headaches), then the only issue is whether your visual acuity with the old Acuvue spherical lenses enabled you to pass your driver's test. Your experience with toric lenses is not atypical. In my practice, I would also possibly recommend another alternative, and
that would be a large RGP lens called the Macrolens. It is the same size
as a soft lens, about as comfortable, and corrects astigmatism much better
than any toric soft lens, i.e. as good as your eyeglasses, and without the
fluctuating vision. Those lenses are available from C&H Contacts in
Dallas, Texas. They would also have a list of doctors who fit them in your
area.
DrG
Quote: > My prescription is: > OD sph: -3.75, Cyl. -2.00 Axis 180 > OS shp: -5.00, Cyl. -1.50 Axis 180
>> Dear Tona,
>> Astigmatism can vary depending on measurement conditions.
>> Could you check your prescription and tell us
>> how much astigmatism you have?
>> Best,
>> Otis
>> > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was
>> > thir{*filter*} (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been
>> > using Acuvue 2 week disposable for the past 5 years and have been
>> > very pleased with them.
>> > On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
>> > developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was
>> > surprised and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had
>> > been paying for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources
>> > that are cheaper).
>> > I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
>> > Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
>> > much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
>> > different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
>> > painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time
>> > "to get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
>> > These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
>> > maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
>> > around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I
>> > am driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find
>> > myself putting in drops several times an hour.
>> > While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I
>> > had them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't
>> > wear these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that
>> > while I could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my
>> > Acuvues, my eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for
>> > sensative eyes with the torics.
>> > I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year
>> > supply. I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision
>> > isn't crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
>> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
>> > different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
>> > lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
>> > Any feedback is appreciated.
>> > Thanks,
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| Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:49:05 GMT |
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Otis Bro
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New to soft toric lenses Quote:
> My prescription is:
> OD sph: -3.75, Cyl. -2.00 Axis 180
> OS shp: -5.00, Cyl. -1.50 Axis 180
Dear Tona, Thanks for the update.
No one can give you "perfect" advice. Some ODs believe
all astigmatism should be "corrected" all the time.
Others try to "go-slow" on the astigmatism.
The FAA medical requires that you have less than 2 diopters
of astigmatism.
If you vision with spherical contacts is 20/25 or so,
you should request just a spherical correction.
There is no legal requirement for it. The "correction"
will sharpen vision in semi-darkness slightly.
You should talk frankly with your OD about this issue.
If he is adament about on that cylinder "correction" you
might wish to find behaviorial optometrist who is
willing to discuss alterantives with you.
My wife receive a "astigmatic correction". For the small
target in a dark room, it was great. But when she
received the lenses and wore them in daylight, the
astigmatic "correction" gave here headaches.
She requested "spherical" lenses, which she received
(meeting the 20/20 line requirement of course).
She is pleased with the spherical lenses.
Obviously you must make your own choice about this
issue.
Best,
Otis
Engineer
^^^^^^^
Quote:
> > Dear Tona,
> > Astigmatism can vary depending on measurement conditions.
> > Could you check your prescription and tell us
> > how much astigmatism you have?
> > Best,
> > Otis
> > > I've worn soft contact lenses to correct myopia since I was thir{*filter*}
> > > (over 20 years) and never had any problems. I've been using Acuvue 2
> > > week disposable for the past 5 years and have been very pleased with
> > > them.
> > > On my most recent eye exam I was told by my optometrist that I've
> > > developed an astigmatism and now need toric lenses. I was surprised
> > > and dismayed to learn that they cost 3 times what I had been paying
> > > for my Acuvues (I've since found some online sources that are
> > > cheaper).
> > > I hadn't even noticed that I wasn't having perfect vision with my
> > > Acuvues, but I have to admit, _when_ I can actually see things are
> > > much sharper with the toris. The optician has put me in three
> > > different brands, each of which has been uncomfortable and even
> > > painful. Finally she told me that I just need to give myself time "to
> > > get used to them." They have left me in Frequency 55's.
> > > These are incredibly uncomfortable, dry and blurry. I can only see
> > > maybe 15% of the time, the rest of the time the lenses are moving
> > > around and blurring up. Sometimes everything goes blurry while I am
> > > driving on the freewary. They are extremely dry and I find myself
> > > putting in drops several times an hour.
> > > While I could wear my Acuvues morning to night and often forgot I had
> > > them in, to the point of falling asleep with them in, I can't wear
> > > these contacts more than a few hours. I've also noticed that while I
> > > could use the cheapest store-brand of all-in-one with my Acuvues, my
> > > eyes are very sensitive unless I buy name brand for sensative eyes
> > > with the torics.
> > > I am so frustrated, and have already spent $380 on a one year supply.
> > > I'd almost rather be back in my Acuvues, even if my vision isn't
> > > crystal clear. Do the torics make that big of a difference.
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions? Would I be better off trying a
> > > different brand? Would I be more comfortable not using the soft
> > > lenses? Is there any specific solution or drops that might help?
> > > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > > Thanks,
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| Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:09:38 GMT |
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TomKop
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New to soft toric lenses If comfort is the major problem since all of the lenses you mentioned are prism ballast design (thicker at the bottom), have a trial fit done with the Acuvue Toric. It is the same material with thin edges. Stability varies from patient to patient as does the clarity, but at this point, you really have nothing to lose. If all else fails, stay with your spherical lenses, especially the Acuvue 2's
as they have more body and may compensate for the astigmatism a little better.
The Frequency spheres are even thicker, if you can wear them, but they should
be more comfortable than the torics.
Dr. Tom Kopan - Dana Point, CA
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