I'm a foilist, and had "regular" LASIK a couple of months ago. I've found
that even without the monovision thing I've had to do quite a bit of
adjusting to my change in vision. My depth perception is different, but I'm
getting more and more used to it every time I fence. It's supposed to take a
while for everything to settle in and become consistent vision-wise after
LASIK, so I don't know how much general vision fluctuation is coming into
effect there.

So I think what I'm trying to say is that chances are your depth
perception's going to change anyway, whether you opt for monovision or no,
because you won't have the minification from your glasses any more, and
stuff's simply not where you're used to it "being". MNSHO is that if you
don't mind wearing reading glasses monovision is unnecessary.

Kate

If you depend on depth perception, you may not be happy with
monovision. Find somebody who has had it done,
and who uses their vision as you plan to use yours----and ask
their opinion.
<P>But perhaps this is more critical at the near point. I used
to work at a lab, and one of my co-workers wore
mono-vision contacts. Every day she'd have difficulty focusing
and had terrible headaches. She finally went back
to her doctor and explained----and described her job. (This job
requires a high degree of hand-eye coordination
and depth perception at 15 cm or less). Doc told her that the
mono-vision approach was inappropriate for her, and
she went back to regular minus soft contacts and plus reading
glasses on top. Focusing problems ceased.

By the way, my own -6.0 diopter glasses (plastic CR39) are only
1/8th inch thick at the edges---quite tolerable. The
lense quality is excellent. So the old 'coke bottle' is more of
a myth than a reality, unless you're still{*filter*} onto
some saucer- sized frames from the 80's.

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I dunno if this was the exact same type of operation, but I
heard on TV that Mary Pierce, the most recent tennis French Open
women's singles (and doubles) champion, had laser vision
correction surgery.  According to the commentator, she was the
first tennis player known to have had it done.  I think she said
that she has been able to see more clearly.  I'd like to know
more about it, and perhaps what she may have had to go through.
If there were any complications, they surely didn't get in her
way during the past two weeks.

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I wear contacts now.

When i went from glasses to contacts i did need to recalibrate my depth
perception a tad, but i don't think i would have nearly that big a change
going from contacts to LASIK, if i don't do monovision.  The question i was
asking, was what if i _do_?

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She's only about thirty, correct?

She would not have had a monovision correction.

-dk

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For the record, I wore RGP contacts before I had LASIK. The depth perception
change was still pretty radical for me. I understand that you're considering
monovision, but the "regular" option isn't without side effects, either.
Just wanted to point out that YMMV no matter which option you choose.

Luck to you.

Kate

The way I understand 'monovision' is that you use the
fully-corrected eye for distance and the under-corrected eye
for near. So basically your brain is using the info from
whichever eye is clearest for whatever distance you're
using. Therefore, you will not get the best depth perception if
you're using one eye at a time. You could still wear a
soft contact for the undercorrected eye for your sports (for
distance--post lasik). Personally, I can't understand
why someone would choose to have monovision as a 'solution' to
presbyopia. The world is a much more dynamic
place when seen with both eyes together at any distance. This
would be an easy thing to simulate with contacts.
Wear a full correction for one eye (usually the {*filter*}
one----ask your doctor to figure out which one, if you don't
know), and put a lense about 2 diopters weaker in the
other----then go out and wear these contacts for a week or
two. Wear them constantly------except for sleeping, of course.
Work at the computer, work really close up, drive,
bike, shoot baskets---whatever it is that you do normally. And
then you'll see what monovision is like. Of course, all
this is just the acuity part. If you have lasik, you'll be
dealing with physical healing of the cornea, possible surgery
'errors', or possible bad results other than acuity (dry eyes,
poor contrast, haloes, etc.).

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Well, even though it seems that she has been around for a while,
she is "only" 25... according to
http://www.frenchopen.org/en/bios/ws/wtap142.html

Is monovision usually something only for older (and how
old is "old") people?

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is it true that ma lin from SVS Loweraustria(niederoesterreich)
had to lose against his ex team from china in the match for the 3rd
place because hes going to play there next season again?
so said it the trainer of SVS and reclaimed it was a scandal what the
chinese club did.
what do you mean?

           greetings from austria
                                  hans

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 5:20:16 +0100,{*filter*} King wrote

Try it out now with contacts. LASIK is rather permanent if you find you can't
stand monovision.

Paul

Monovision is suggested for people in their mid-to-late fourties or beyond,
who have trouble with "presbyopia", which is inability to focus close
without reading glasses.

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I would be concerned with having one eye set for long distance and one eye
set for reading.  Based on my experiments with various lens diopter settings
to counteract the issues of presbyopia, I think this approach will hurt your
game.  I have tried it out where one lens is at a 0.5 diopter difference
from the other and did not find it helped by game.  Anything larger than
this will be very difficult IMO to adjust to.  According to coaches such as
Christian Lillieroos, it is critical to have stereoscopic vision to track
the ball properly.  He noticed that I only track with my right eye and when
I made the effort to use both eyes it made a big difference in my
consistency.

I would like to hear if you find out any information on solving the
presbyopia problem.  Eye excercises I have found do work to some extent.
Also consider the use of herbs known for the benefit for the eye such as
Bilberry and Eyebright.  Also consider using antioxidants such as
alpha-lipoic acid (300 mg a day) with C(1000 mg) , E (600 iu), pycnogenol
and Grape Seed Extract.   Some claim that there are supplements which
increase the amount of Human Growth Hormone in the human body but I have not
tried these products as they are very expensive.   The increase of HGH would
improve the eye elasticity.  Also consider the use of MSM (methyl-Sulfonyl-
methane) eye drops.  There is anecdotal stories of this helping improve the
tone of the muscles which control the focusing function of the eye.  There
numerous books on how to reverse the aging of the eye.  Take a look at :"The
inner secrets behind Perfect Eyesight" Robert A. Zuraw, et al, Taoist
Publishers 1998.  Some of these books do not agree with the prevailing view
that it is the drop in felxibility of the lens in the eye that is the major
problem but rather it is the drop in the ability of the muscles which
control the shape of the lens and the eye as a whole that is the problem.
Ergo if you can increase {*filter*} flow and improve muscle tone through
excercises you can increase the accomodation capability of the eye.  There
is some evidence that this is true.

By the way I was surprised to find out that a few older players show
virtually no sign of this condition.  One such player is Marty Reisman.  As
of a few years ago he had no sign of presbiopia.

I spoke with Avishy Schmidt who had laser surgery two years ago.  (He does
not have presbiopia).  He says it has really helped his game compared to how
he could see the ball with glasses.

Waqidi

I was just listening to Dr. Dean Edell on the radio and he recommended
the same thing as far as trying one contact.  He also said to try
reading glasses with only one lense.  His claim was that fully 50% of
people don't adjust well to monovision.