Personality Engineering, or: Mind.Forth AI! 
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 Personality Engineering, or: Mind.Forth AI!


>> Ok, I checked into the Mind-Forth stuff at the
>> http://www.***.com/
>> I downloaded the programs and ran it.  I don't get what's going on.
>> I thought it would be easier to know what this mind model is about
>> based on the statement at the site.
>>> "You do not need to know the F-PC Forth programming language
>>>> in order to run Mind.Forth and observe how the Forthmind thinks."
>> Is this stuff really worth reading up on? Anyone have any opinions
>> on the subject.


> Arthur is widely held to be a harmless if verbose crank.
> He believes that a small amount of Forth code (a stack programming
> language which is widely underappreciated, but not magic)

See the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) publication,
ACM Sigplan Notices 33(12):25-31 (December 1998), with a paper by
the neuroscience and Forth expert Paul Frenger, MD, "Mind.Forth:
Thoughts on Artificial Intelligence and Forth" for more info on
http://www.***.com/ ~mentifex/aisource.html -- Mind.Forth in 1998.


> can replicate the functionality of ump{*filter*} trillions of
> neurons in a brain.  Well, that's not entirely true,
> he seems to be trying the strong AI approach, simulating    
> the high level process rather than neural net neuron sims.

Yes; if we treat the high level processes as a "black box,"
already amply demystified by the neuroscience of John C. Eccles
and by the visual feature-extraction work of Hubel and Wiesel, we
can superimpose the transformational linguistics of Noam Chomsky
and thus create a rudimentary artificial mind as in Mind.Forth AI.


> But with less proper training and understanding of the problem
> than a freshman CS student.  The results are predictable.

The freshman Computer Science student, learning a lot about
algorithms and computational theory, is welcome to work on
so as to learn a little neuroscience and linguistics for Y2K.


> This is a nearly perfect example of Cargo-Cult Science.

All bets are off as to the date of the Technological Singularity of
http://www.***.com/ ~phoenix/vinge/vinge-sing.html V. Vinge.
> -george william herbert

Fri, 07 Jun 2002 03:00:00 GMT
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