Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist??? 
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 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

I notice there is a listing in my local phone book for an M.D. who
strictly deals in psychopharmacology.  Can I refer myself to this
physician, just call and make an appointment, or do I need to be
referred to him from another doctor??


Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:20:08 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

Quote:

> I notice there is a listing in my local phone book for an M.D. who
> strictly deals in psychopharmacology.  Can I refer myself to this
> physician, just call and make an appointment, or do I need to be
> referred to him from another doctor??

Who knows? Ring his secretary and find out.

In Australia, you can refer yourself to any specialist, but Medicare
will not pay for the consultation. If referred by your family physician,
the fee is covered.

You don't specify which country, you are from (I will not assume that
you are American. Most Americans seem to think that they the only people
who use the Internet)

--
Larry Brash



Tue, 04 Jan 2005 05:52:59 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

Quote:

> You don't specify which country, you are from (I will not assume that
> you are American. Most Americans seem to think that they the only people
> who use the Internet)

> --
> Larry Brash

If one was posting in French into a french ng--they would probably assume
that most posts were from France--in spite of the fact that there are many
countries for which French is a primary language--West Africa, Canada and
many others.  Perhaps they would be less likely to do so  than in US, since
they are not as isolated as the US.  In France it is just a day trip from
most of it to visit other countries, but in the US it can take 3 or 4 days
to get from one place to the next if you are on the edges--I am sure that
many Americans who use the internet assume that when people type in English
and sound the same (culturally speaking) they might be also American--but it
takes more than a couple posts to catch the cultural differences between US
and countries such as Canada and UK.


Tue, 04 Jan 2005 06:17:28 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???
Quote:
>Subject: Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

>Date: 7/18/02 3:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time

>I notice there is a listing in my local phone book for an M.D. who
>strictly deals in psychopharmacology.  Can I refer myself to this>physician,

just call and make an appointment, or do I need to be>referred to him from
another doctor??

That is simply a psychiatrist with
an intensive background in pharmacology ( medications).
If you need that service it would depend on what type of insurance you have.
Some insurance companies require referrals.
Also, psychiatrists seldom diagnose these days. They leave that to the
therapists. They usually spend only a quarter hour with each patient and write
prescriptions.  Good luck ,
                                          Dawn

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is, than to persist in
delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan.



Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:31:57 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

Quote:

> Also, psychiatrists seldom diagnose these days. They leave that to the
> therapists. They usually spend only a quarter hour with each patient and write
> prescriptions.

<rant>

Dear, oh, dear. What sort of {*filter*}psychiatry is practiced in your corner
of the world? You don't specify a country and I will assume, like most
people, that you are talking about the USA.

My training in the late 1970's, in Australia (England is much the same)
was very broad based, learning all aspects of the bio-psycho-social
approach to psychiatry.

Called me old fashioned, but I spend an hour with a new patient, minimum
30 minutes for follow ups, diagnose, do psychotherapy, prescribe
medications if needed. I actually get to know most of my patients. I
could make more money banging them through every 10-15 minutes (I have
colleagues who do this), but I would hate it.

I think that it is sad state of affairs that the Mangled Care, whoops I
mean Managed Costs, no sorry I'll get it right yet, Managed Care has
reduced psychiatry to such a narrow "Pills-will-fix-it" approach to
human suffering. I am glad Australian Psychiatry has done its best of
resist this imported socio-economic cancer.

If it is American, it must be good? I don't think so!

</rant>

--
Larry Brash



Wed, 05 Jan 2005 05:06:09 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

>Date: 7/19/02 5:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time


>> Also, psychiatrists seldom diagnose these days. They leave that to the
>> therapists. They usually spend only a quarter hour with each patient and
>write
>> prescriptions.

><rant>

>Dear, oh, dear. What sort of {*filter*}psychiatry is practiced in your corner
>of the world? You don't specify a country and I will assume, like most
>people, that you are talking about the USA.

>My training in the late 1970's, in Australia (England is much the same)
>was very broad based, learning all aspects of the bio-psycho-social
>approach to psychiatry.

>Called me old fashioned, but I spend an hour with a new patient, minimum
>30 minutes for follow ups, diagnose, do psychotherapy, prescribe
>medications if needed. I actually get to know most of my patients. I
>could make more money banging them through every 10-15 minutes (I have
>colleagues who do this), but I would hate it.

>I think that it is sad state of affairs that the Mangled Care, whoops I
>mean Managed Costs, no sorry I'll get it right yet, Managed Care has
>reduced psychiatry to such a narrow "Pills-will-fix-it" approach to
>human suffering. I am glad Australian Psychiatry has done its best of
>resist this imported socio-economic cancer.

>If it is American, it must be good? I don't think so!

></rant>

>--
>Larry Brash

That is great that you spend an hour with patients - bravo!
 Yes, I am in the USA, land of HMO's and psychiatrists who don't do therapy
anymore. They do spend about 15 minutes with a patient.
They bill $55.00 for the quarter hour too.
Keep fighting the good fight there.
You Aussies rule, from Russell Crowe to the Croc Hunter I just love the place.
There are real men there , which are increasingly hard to find!
Now I find out there are real docs too! I may move soon :-)
                            Peace, Dawn

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is, than to persist in
delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan.



Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:51:46 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

Quote:

> >Subject: Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

> >Date: 7/18/02 3:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time

> >I notice there is a listing in my local phone book for an M.D. who
> >strictly deals in psychopharmacology.  Can I refer myself to this>physician,
> just call and make an appointment, or do I need to be>referred to him from
> another doctor??

> That is simply a psychiatrist with
> an intensive background in pharmacology ( medications).
> If you need that service it would depend on what type of insurance you have.
> Some insurance companies require referrals.
> Also, psychiatrists seldom diagnose these days. They leave that to the
> therapists. They usually spend only a quarter hour with each patient and write
> prescriptions.  Good luck ,
>                                           Dawn

> "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is, than to persist in
> delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan.

Thank you for your response and help Dawn.  I think it best if we
Americans leave Dr. Brant to his ranting and raving.  With all that
pent up fury he might end up coming over and wrecking havoc.  We have
our hands full with the Middle Easterners ;)  I was shocked to see he
is a psychiatrist!  I was just saying to a friend the other day that I
would like to come into contact with a Mental Health Professional that
at least ACTS as if he possesses more mental health than I do lol  
They are a strange lot, unfortunately.  I'll exit this discussion
group now.  I can't imagine a worse place to come across such
hostility than in a discussion group for psychiatry.  Go figure.


Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:52:11 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???
It seems to me that proper diagnosis, is still the mainstay of Psychiatry.


Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:38:03 GMT
 Can I refer myself to a psychopharmacologist???

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> Thank you for your response and help Dawn.  I think it best if we
> Americans leave Dr. Brant to his ranting and raving.  

Who is this Dr Brant fellow?

Quote:
> I can't imagine a worse place to come across such
> hostility than in a discussion group for psychiatry.  Go figure.

Agreed, it has been one of the most hostile newsgroups with which I have
been associated, usually it is putting up with anti-psychiatry
hostility. I am afraid that it brings out the worst in me.

--
Larry Brash



Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:29:16 GMT
 
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