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Kate,
dependent personality disorder fits into this definition.
Ed Modestino
M.Phil. candidate in psychobiology
University of Pennsylvania
Quote:

> Hi -
> I'm working on the TV show JAG. I have a question. We're doing an episode in
> which a witness (it's a show about Naval law, for those who haven't seen it)
> has a psychiatric disorder which causes him to be so eager to please and so
> fearful of disapproval that he will agree with anything anyone asks or tells
> him. I know this sounds somewhat cartoonish, and I don't want to mock the
> mentally ill. That's why I'm asking for your help - can anyone think of a
> disorder which, in a very extreme form, could produce these symptoms? I'd
> appreciate any and all theories, as long as they have a basis in psychiatric or
> psychological theory.  I work for the writers doing research, so if I can't
> find an answer to this question, it's on my head and I want to keep my job!!!
> Thanks in advance. If you want to respond to this email, please write directly
> to me rather than posting on the newsgroup since I am not sure how often I'll
> be able to get back and look at the newsgroup.
> Kate Wharmby
> JAG - Junior Writers' Assistant



Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Need help - am working on TV show
Quote:

> Hi -
> I'm working on the TV show JAG. I have a question. We're doing an episode in
> which a witness (it's a show about Naval law, for those who haven't seen it)
> has a psychiatric disorder which causes him to be so eager to please and so
> fearful of disapproval that he will agree with anything anyone asks or tells
> him. I know this sounds somewhat cartoonish, and I don't want to mock the
> mentally ill. That's why I'm asking for your help - can anyone think of a
> disorder which, in a very extreme form, could produce these symptoms? I'd
> appreciate any and all theories, as long as they have a basis in psychiatric or
> psychological theory.  I work for the writers doing research, so if I can't
> find an answer to this question, it's on my head and I want to keep my job!!!
> Thanks in advance. If you want to respond to this email, please write directly
> to me rather than posting on the newsgroup since I am not sure how often I'll
> be able to get back and look at the newsgroup.
> Kate Wharmby
> JAG - Junior Writers' Assistant



Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Need help - am working on TV show
Hi -
I'm working on the TV show JAG. I have a question. We're doing an episode in
which a witness (it's a show about Naval law, for those who haven't seen it)
has a psychiatric disorder which causes him to be so eager to please and so
fearful of disapproval that he will agree with anything anyone asks or tells
him. I know this sounds somewhat cartoonish, and I don't want to mock the
mentally ill. That's why I'm asking for your help - can anyone think of a
disorder which, in a very extreme form, could produce these symptoms? I'd
appreciate any and all theories, as long as they have a basis in psychiatric or
psychological theory.  I work for the writers doing research, so if I can't
find an answer to this question, it's on my head and I want to keep my job!!!
Thanks in advance. If you want to respond to this email, please write directly
to me rather than posting on the newsgroup since I am not sure how often I'll
be able to get back and look at the newsgroup.
Kate Wharmby
JAG - Junior Writers' Assistant


Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Need help - am working on TV show
: Hi -
: I'm working on the TV show JAG. I have a question. We're doing an episode in
: which a witness (it's a show about Naval law, for those who haven't seen it)
: has a psychiatric disorder which causes him to be so eager to please and so
: fearful of disapproval that he will agree with anything anyone asks or tells
: him. I know this sounds somewhat cartoonish, and I don't want to mock the
: mentally ill. That's why I'm asking for your help - can anyone think of a
: disorder which, in a very extreme form, could produce these symptoms? I'd

        Why not pick up a copy of the DSM?

-ECV



Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

> Kate,
> dependent personality disorder fits into this definition.

> > Hi -
> > I'm working on the TV show JAG. I have a question. We're doing an episode in
> > which a witness (it's a show about Naval law, for those who haven't seen it)
> > has a psychiatric disorder which causes him to be so eager to please and so
> > fearful of disapproval that he will agree with anything anyone asks or tells
> > him.

I'd agree that Dependent Personality Disorder (DSM-IV 301.6) is the only
thing that would fit your description.

Here is a little further information about this disorder.

For a start, it is not a mental illness like schizophrenia or
manic-depressive psychosis or even depression or anxiety. These are
referred as Axis 1 disorders, while Personality disorders are designated
as Axis 2.

A personality disorder is defined in DSM -IV as:

A. "An enduring pattern of inner experience and behaviour that deviates
markedly from the expectations of the individual's culture. This pattern
is manifested in two (or more) of the following areas:
        1. cognition (ways of preceiving and interpreting self, other people or
events).
        2. affectivity (the range, intensity, lability and appropriateness of
emotional response).
        3. Interpersonal functioning
        4. impulse control.

B. The enduring pattern is inflexible and pervasive across arange of
personal and social situations.

C. The enduring pattern leads to clinically significant distress or
impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of
functioning.

Looking specifically at Dependent Personality Disorder, it is defined
as:

A pervasive and excessive need to be taken care of that leads to
{*filter*} and clinging behaiour and fears of seperation, beginning by
early {*filter*}hood and present in a variety of contexts and indicated by 5
(or more) of the following.

        1. has difficulty making decisions without an excessive amount of
advice and reassurance from others.

        2. needs others to assume responsibility for most major areas of his or
her life.

        3. has difficulty expressing disagreements with others because of fear
of loss of support or approval. (does not include realistic fears of
retribution)

        4. has difficulty initiating projects or doing things on his or her own
(because of lack of self-confidence in judgement or abilities rather
than lack of motivation or energy).

        5. goes to excessive lengths to obtain nurturance and support from
others. to the point of volunteering things that are unpleasant. [this
is what you describe in your question]

        6. feels uncomfortable or helpless when alone because of exaggerated
fears of of being unable to care for oneself.

        7. urgently seeks another relationship as a source of care  and support
when a close relationship ends.

        8. is unrealistically preoccupied with fears of being left to take care
of oneself.

These features may help you to pad out the character a little more.

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Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

>For a start, it is not a mental illness like schizophrenia or
>manic-depressive psychosis or even depression or anxiety.

Larry, where do you draw the line?

(Axis II = mental retardation and personality disorders, Axis I = everything
else)

-elizabeth



Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:


> >For a start, it is not a mental illness like schizophrenia or
> >manic-depressive psychosis or even depression or anxiety.

> Larry, where do you draw the line?

A very blurred line at times when one tries to look at a person
cross-sectionally. Personality disorder is a somewhat subjective and
potentially judgemental description of someone's lifelong pattern of
relating. It is therefore a longitudinal view of the person, but is so
often wrongly used to describe someone's current behaviour (eg when in
crisis or depressed)

One should be wary of making this diagnosis in the presence of a Axis I
diagnosis. The problem is that some subtle chronic depressive illnesses
look like a personality disorder ("Borderline" being the classic
example) until the depression responds to an SSRI and then the Axis II
disappears.

However, having said all that, I believe that personality disorders do
exist, as there are many people who display remarkably maladaptive
behaviours in the absence of any obvious Axis I disorder. I guess the
diagnosis is a shorthand way of saying this person is likely to react in
a particular way in a particular set of circumstances.

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> (Axis II = mental retardation and personality disorders, Axis I = everything
> else)

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Fri, 03 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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personality disorders: narcissistic, histrionic, borderline.

also: atypical disassociative disorder (cult-brainwashing type compliance
due to mileu control, especially possible in a highly-structured military
setting).

also sociopathy.

also schizoaffective disorder makes people very suggestible to magical
thinking and suggestions perceived or real from others.

and then there's always transference and countertransference when the
role-model is just as pathological as the subject.

are we having fun yet?

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Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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> > (Axis II = mental retardation and personality disorders, Axis I = everything
> > else)

There are five axis (plural?) that psychiatrists are suppose to work with.
Most dont bother
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Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

>A very blurred line at times when one tries to look at a person
>cross-sectionally. Personality disorder is a somewhat subjective and
>potentially judgemental description of someone's lifelong pattern of
>relating. It is therefore a longitudinal view of the person, but is so
>often wrongly used to describe someone's current behaviour (eg when in
>crisis or depressed)

>One should be wary of making this diagnosis in the presence of a Axis I
>diagnosis. The problem is that some subtle chronic depressive illnesses
>look like a personality disorder ("Borderline" being the classic
>example) until the depression responds to an SSRI and then the Axis II
>disappears.

>However, having said all that, I believe that personality disorders do
>exist, as there are many people who display remarkably maladaptive
>behaviours in the absence of any obvious Axis I disorder. I guess the
>diagnosis is a shorthand way of saying this person is likely to react in
>a particular way in a particular set of circumstances.

Larry, I know this is old - I just wanted to say, very well thought out.

Psychoanalysts I have talked to are reluctant to diagnose personality disorders
(although they will diagnose clear-cut Axis I disorders like bipolar and panic
disorder). They feel that it's better to look at a person's life problems on an
individual basis, that's my understanding anyway. I sort of think that far too
much effort has been put into classifying "personality disorders" and that we
might do better to consider the utility of such a diagnosis - for example, I do
think it's useful to note that self-mutilating behavior is an alarm bell for a
history of childhood abuse.

An interesting point about personality disorders being diagnosed on the basis
of short-term behavior. A major depressive episode can go on for a long time, I
think my longest one has been around 20 months. Other disorders can be chronic,
like generalized anxiety or dysthymia. I wonder how many of these individuals
get mislabelled as "personality disordered" only to make a quick and full
recovery when properly treated with medication. Of course, it's also a popular
myth that true personality disorders won't respond to medication, but generally
both medication and talk therapy are required to obtain an improvement that is
more than transient.

-elizabeth



Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

>There are five axis (plural?) that psychiatrists are suppose to work with.
>Most dont bother

Axes. :-)

Axis III is for general medical conditions that might be relevant - like
diabetes mellitus, epilepsy, Alzheimer's disease, etc. Axis IV is psychosocial
stressors, and Axis V is the global assessment of functioning score (number
from 1-100, where 1 is the lowest level of overall functioning, 100 is the
highest; 0 is "not enough information").

I had forgotten all about this thread. But did anyone see yesterday's episode
of JAG? That was pretty entertaining. Good show.

-elizabeth



Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

>I had forgotten all about this thread. But did anyone see yesterday's
episode
>of JAG? That was pretty entertaining. Good show.

If you're watching Jag, you need help, and a life.


Tue, 14 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Quote:

>If you're watching Jag, you need help, and a life.

Hey, could be worse; I could be posting to Usenet! Oh, wait....

(To each his own...I think it's a pretty good show personally.)

-elizabeth



Tue, 14 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
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Long term intensive psychotherapy can help blunt maladaptive personality traits
and ameliorate personality disorders.  However, this takes years and the patient
has to want to change. But, there is hope and it can work.  Perhaps this reroutes
different connections in the brain, creating new adaptive behaviors in response to
events.  This would be a sort of reconditioning of behaviors.


Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 
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