>> >Dr AEF learned all he knows at your knee, so to speak. His method is
>> >almost identical to yours.

>> The method AEF is using is one that I have modified since 1992, which is
>> more frequent prostatic massages+antibiotics, to begin with triple
>> combination, and may be replace with another dual antibiotic within days,
>> based on patients response.

>AEF also carefully cultures and targets his abx. This is more
>successful, according to Dr Shoskes, than your "shotgun" approach,
>hitting the pt with multiple abx without any indication for this and
>with only temporary results when you get lucky.

>> >Moe, the guy whom you claim to have cured, actually has to be
>> >"re-cured" every year by uros in the US. So your "cure" isn't worth
>> >squat.

>> Again another disinformation. Moe stated that I have cured him and any
>> reinfection can now be dealt with by his own doctor, whom he guided in
>> proper prostatic massage. See his posting, I do not have the time to look
>> it up.

>Moe stated that he had a recurrence of symptoms within a year of leaving
>your office. Is this not a relapse after the temporary remission you
>induced through massage and anti-inflammatory antibiotics? Of course it
>is! You will claim it is re-infection, but that is nonsense.

>> >>   Let us also make it clear that my protocol
>> >>   of repetitive prostatic massage+a
>> >>   combination of triple and even quadruple
>> >>   antibiotics given for no more than 1-3
>> >>   weeks have never been tried by any doctor
>> >>   that I am aware of.

>> >Yes it has. Dr Shoskes has tried it exactly as you describe it, and it
>> >gave poorer results than AEF's protocol.

>> Dr. Shoskes employes single antibiotics.

>Wrong! Dr Shoskes tried YOUR EXACT PROTOCOL: FREQUENT MASSAGE AND
>MULTIPLE EMPIRICAL ANTIBIOTICS. He found AEF's targeted approach
>slightly more successful in producing remissions (about 17% remission).

>> Only a psychopath would draw figures in a supposedly professional
debate!!!!

>Ah! I will have to have the DSM changed to reflect this new definition
>of psychopathology, courtesy my nutty Filipino friend. Here's another
>drawing for you:

>      Go away spammer!!!

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> Oh, just forgot something to add:
> I currently compile my own warning concerning ANF.
> I contains my story (tried ANF protocol, result:  horror), what i
> learned from this group about that quack,
> and some interessting things i researched about the
> Manila fellows on the internet.
> It will be periodically released by an automatic script. Period
> will be adjusted accordingly. 1 ore 2 days, or several hours.