Prostatitis, The "Broad Cultures" Tale

The "Broad Cultures" Tale

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http://www.hyperreal.art.pl/cypher/remailer #1 / 4	The "Broad Cultures" Tale Quote: > >In a classic scam, he asks you to send urine samples in BY > >MAIL (!!!), ensuring a useless result regarding the delay. > This is a serious question, not meant to be > taken as a slur or judgment by anyone. If > there is not bacteria in your urine speicmen > when you put it into a sterile container > (and you have done a sterile catch) and > you do mail it to Dr. F? How does even > one bacteria get into the container as it > goes through the mailing process? May > seem like a dumb question, but I really do > want to know. If it was not there in the > first place, how does it get there even > though one mails it? Thanks. Barb. Barb, good question! It's important to realize that urine, even from healthy people, is not completely sterile. In the last few inches of our urethras there resides a diverse flora, in small numbers (excuse the clumsy English). Professional labs know this, which is why they try to get a catch from the latter part of a urination, and even then they expect to find small numbers of bacteria. That's why they don't do long broth cultures to find UTIs -- if they did, you'd almost always find something; a single bacterium, given a week in yummy rich broth, can mutliple billions of times!
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 03:00:00 GMT

Joh #2 / 4	The "Broad Cultures" Tale On 12 Jan 2000 00:39:20 -0000, Quote: > Professional labs know this, which is why they try to >get a catch from the latter part of a urination, and even then they >expect to find small numbers of bacteria. That's why they don't do long >broth cultures to find UTIs -- if they did, you'd almost always find >something; a single bacterium, given a week in yummy rich broth, can >mutliple billions of times! Dr. F directs to do a 3 to 4 second count before catching urine. He found nothing in mine on two separate occasions. I think his cultures were no more than 4 days, also.
Sun, 30 Jun 2002 03:00:00 GMT

http://www.hyperreal.art.pl/cypher/remailer #3 / 4	The "Broad Cultures" Tale Quote: > > Professional labs know this, which is why > > they try to get a catch from the latter > > part of a urination, and even then they > > expect to find small numbers of bacteria. > > That's why they don't do long broth > > cultures to find UTIs -- if they did, you'd > > almost always find something; a single > > bacterium, given a week in yummy rich > > broth, can mutliple billions of times! > > Dr. F directs to do a 3 to 4 second count > > before catching urine. He found nothing > > in mine on two separate occasions. I think > > his cultures were no more than 4 days, > > also. > Yes he directs for a clean midstream > culture. The bacteria usually show up > within 3-4 days. This is also true if > "standard" labs perform broth cultures. > There should be no bacteria in the > bladder. It is not normal. It should be > sterile. Oh really? .. a small number of bacteria may be found in the urine of many healthy people. The presence of a small number of bacteria in the urine is usually considered to be harmless. If the number of bacteria reaches a certain level, however, it may mean that the bladder, urethra, or kidneys are infected. ... [From http://www.babydata.com/info/docs/info/3gen/bactur1.htm ] If the number of colony forming units (CFU) obtained on a properly collected CVMS urine is 50,000 CFU/ml or greater for a single potential pathogen this will indicate UTI ... [From http://www.vh.org/Providers/CME/CLIA/Microbiology/5Quantitative.html ] .. which indicates labs expect to find bacteria in urine, and see it as normal up to certain limits. Your ignorance is astounding!
Mon, 01 Jul 2002 03:00:00 GMT

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