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Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: PROSTATITIS Digest - 18 May 2000 to 19 May 2000


>> I have had no recurrence of my symptoms since then, however I have to
drain
>> my prostate every few months. {*filter*} [is] diminished and a heavy
>> sensation in the testicle and back pain recurs, which is relieved by
>> prostatic massage.

>[text above altered to show proper tense usage]

Anon wrote;
>So THIS is what he means by "cure". Now, at last, I understand. This is
>a level of cure I have surpassed, without massage, just using my
>protocol.

>Finally, group, we have clarity about the Feliciano methods and results.

Having suffered from chronic prostatitis for more than 15 years, some of the
more than 20 prostatic ducts are scarred up and no longer elastic. The acini
are producing more fluid than it could drain that there is a tendency for
the fluid to accumulate. I would drain more than 10 drops of clear prostatic
fluid every few months, which relieves the congestion. Frequency and painful
ejaculation have not recurred. {*filter*} is normal, as well as ejaculation.

This is not the result I obtained from over 90% of my patients, who do not
have a long history of doctor to doctor and antibiotics after another. They
are usually permanently cure without the need of follow up.

5% to 10% of my patients after eradicating the bacteria, would require
prostatic drainage once or twice a year but are usually asymptomatic.

Periodic prostatic massage is far simpler and cheaper than the protocol Anon
has postulated with the herbs, quercetin, etc., and avoidance of irritants,
not to mention the detrimental psychological complication that has resulted
from years of uncertainty and confusion, including the hatred for doctors.

Antonio Novak Feliciano, M.D., F.P.C.S
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Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Fw: Fw: PROSTATITIS Digest - 18 May 2000 to 19 May 2000


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Fw: Fw: PROSTATITIS Digest - 18 May 2000 to 19 May 2000

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> > >   I have had no recurrence of my
> > >   symptoms since then, however I have to
> > >   drain my prostate every few months.
> > >   {*filter*} [is] diminished and a heavy
> > >   sensation in the testicle and back pain
> > >   recurs, which is relieved by prostatic
> > >   massage.

> >  So THIS is what he means by "cure". Now, at
> >  last, I understand. This is a level of cure I
> >  have surpassed, without massage, just
> >  using my protocol. Finally, group, we
> >  have clarity about the Feliciano methods
> >  and results.

>   Having suffered from chronic
>   prostatitis for more than 15
>   years, some of the more than
>   20 prostatic ducts are scarred
>   up and no longer elastic. The
>   acini are producing more fluid
>   than it could drain that there
>   is a tendency for the fluid to
>   accumulate. I drain more
>   than 10 drops of clear prostatic
>   fluid every few months, which
>   relieves the congestion.

I agree that the condition can lead to a tendency for the prostate to
become congested periodically. At your age BPH is probably playing a
role too.

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>   Frequency and painful
>   ejaculation have not recurred.

Same with me.

Quote:
>   {*filter*} is normal, as well as
>   ejaculation.

Same with me. (BTW - at your age, and after so many years of smoking,
I'm surprised at your claimed virility.)

Quote:
>   This is not the result I
>   obtained from over 90% of my
>   patients, who do not have a
>   long history of doctor to doctor
>   and antibiotics after another.

You have no idea what long-term effects your patients have. With the
residual symptoms you describe above, they are highly unlikely to return
to your clinic, which promised them a cure and gave them expensive,
intensive, intrusive treatment. Why would they return?

Quote:
>   They are usually permanently
>   cure without the need of follow
>   up.

Here's a suggestion for you: take your patient list from 1995 and make a
concerted effort to contact 100 of the CP patients. You may learn an
enormous amount, especially humility.

Quote:
>   5% to 10% of my patients after
>   eradicating the bacteria, would
>   require prostatic drainage
>   once or twice a year but are
>   usually asymptomatic.

Should read: "5 to 10% of my patients believe so deeply in me and my
methods that they keep returning, despite not being cured."

Quote:
>   Periodic prostatic massage is
>   far simpler and cheaper than the
>   protocol Anon has postulated
>   with the herbs, quercetin, etc.,
>   and avoidance of irritants,

My old friend, massage is not necessary for everyone. I have already
described how massage is painful and irritates my gland. I achieve the
same release of pent-up secretions by using quercetin. On two separate
occasions I have had a 1 or 2 week period of yellow ejaculation when
starting quercetin treatment after long breaks. This, to me, is clear
proof that the flavonoid is cooling the inflammation enough to allow a
drainage of the burning, irritant, trapped secretions.

Quote:
>   not to mention the detrimental
>   psychological complication that
>   has resulted from years of
>   uncertainty and confusion,
>   including the hatred for
>   doctors.

You keep saying that I hate doctors. But my best personal friend is a
doctor. How do you explain that?

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Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 
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