PROSTATITIS Digest - 19 Feb 1999 to 20 Feb 1999 - Special issue (#1999-88) 
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 PROSTATITIS Digest - 19 Feb 1999 to 20 Feb 1999 - Special issue (#1999-88)

Ken, Alex, and others.

Check into the murine models of  the molecular work on biofilms
(slime) of bacteria; it appears this may be a reason often
nothing grows in the cultures of prostatic fluid cultures and
partially explains the resistance to current antibiotics.

Ken B.

     Subject: PROSTATITIS Digest - 19 Feb 1999 to 20 Feb 1999 -
Special issue (#1999-88)
     Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:48:30 -0400

     Reply-To: Prostatitis Discussion

     To: Recipients of PROSTATITIS digests

     Subject: Re: Drug resistant staph
     Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:30:39 GMT

     Hi Ken'
     Would it be poossible for you to e mail the cnn write up? I would
greatly
     appreciated. I think its gone already.   Joe

     Subject: Re: Drug resistant staph
     Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 01:24:27 -0000


     >


     > >>
     > >> A big part of what's going on with prostatitis, I believe is

     > >> drug-resistant bacteria.  There is an article on this
currently on CNN's
     > >> website.  Here's the link:
     > >>
     > >> Here's a quote:
http://www.***.com/
     > >>
     > >> Drug-resistant staph infections are not only nationwide but
worldwide," he
     > >> says. "Some countries seem to be doing a better job of
controlling them in
     > >> hospitals  than we are here in the United States, but
they're in every
     > >> community in the country."
     > >>
     > >> Read it while it's still there.
     > >
     > >This is illogical reasoning, Ken.
     > >
     > >1) CP was just as prevalent back in the days when Abx were
first
     > >   discovered, ad the bugs hadn't had time to adapt and become

     > >   "resistant".
     > >
     > >2) Recently, when a whole new, potent class of Abx were
discovered,
     > >   (the flouroquinolones etc.) which also had remarkable
     > >   penetrative ability into the prostate and cured 92%+ of
     > >   *bacterial* CP pts, they made no difference to the
non-bacterial
     > >   CP patients.
     > >
     > >The arguments for bacteria just look weaker and weaker. If I
were a
     > >betting man I'd take a big wager on this theory losing
miserably.
     >
     > But didn't the flouroquinolones provide more benefit/relief
than
     > the previous AB's for men with non-bacterial cp?

     A fair question. They generally probably have, but in virtually
all
     cases the relief is temporary. These new Abx also provided very
good
     anti-inflammatory relief to Crohn's patients, BTW. Also without
cure,
     however, as you would expect in a non-microbial disease.

     > May not have cured them but brought better relief.

     Exactly, I agree.

     > Personally I think CP is probably caused by infection then
becomes
     > an autoimmune problem. So Secret Squirel(Anonymous) and Ken may
be
     > each 1/2 right.

     This is Dr Shoskes position too, if I'm not mistaken. And it has
been my
     position for a long time. I also suspect that the inflammation
can arise
     without infection in the prostate, necessarily, just as RA can
arise
     without an infection in the joint/s.



Thu, 09 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 PROSTATITIS Digest - 19 Feb 1999 to 20 Feb 1999 - Special issue (#1999-88)

Quote:

> Ken, Alex, and others.

> Check into the murine models of  the molecular work on biofilms
> (slime) of bacteria; it appears this may be a reason often
> nothing grows in the cultures of prostatic fluid cultures and
> partially explains the resistance to current antibiotics.

See http://prostate.org/biofilms.html


Fri, 10 Aug 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 
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