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Amber Robinso #1 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
I have fairly severe asthma and am being treated with the following meds to keep my asthma under control: Ventolin Atrovent Serevent Flovent Theophylline Prednisone However, they have now added two more {*filter*} as they seem to think that Gastroesophageal Reflux might be making my asthma difficult to treat. They are called Ranitidine and Losec. Could anybody tell me what the connection is between Gastroesophogeal Reflux and difficult to treat asthma and how these two {*filter*} control the G. Reflux ? I am going for an upper GI test later this week to test for the presence of the G. Reflux. Any information would be helpful. I have had severe asthma for about 8 years now and this is the first time that they have investigated the G. Reflux thing. Amber
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Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Amber Robinso #2 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
I have fairly severe asthma and am being treated with the following meds to keep my asthma under control: Ventolin Atrovent Serevent Flovent Theophylline Prednisone However, they have now added two more {*filter*} as they seem to think that Gastroesophageal Reflux might be making my asthma difficult to treat. They are called Ranitidine and Losec. Could anybody tell me what the connection is between Gastroesophogeal Reflux and difficult to treat asthma and how these two {*filter*} control the G. Reflux ? I am going for an upper GI test later this week to test for the presence of the G. Reflux. Any information would be helpful. I have had severe asthma for about 8 years now and this is the first time that they have investigated the G. Reflux thing. Amber
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Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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so.. #3 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
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>I have fairly severe asthma and am being treated with the following meds >to keep my asthma under control: >Ventolin >Atrovent >Serevent >Flovent >Theophylline >Prednisone >However, they have now added two more {*filter*} as they seem to think that >Gastroesophageal Reflux might be making my asthma difficult to treat. >They are called Ranitidine and Losec. Could anybody tell me what the >connection is between Gastroesophogeal Reflux and difficult to treat >asthma and how these two {*filter*} control the G. Reflux ? >I am going for an upper GI test later this week to test for the presence >of the G. Reflux. >Any information would be helpful. I have had severe asthma for about 8 >years now and this is the first time that they have investigated the >G. Reflux thing. >Amber
Dear Amber, Try using an alginate such as gaviscon which is non systemic before any of the other {*filter*} such as losec etc. No side effects from Gaviscon. Leonard Solai BSc medicine Hons R& C Pharma South Africa
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dick Balla #4 / 11
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GastroEsophageal Reflux Disease (GERD) allows stomach contents to back up into the esophagus and frequently into the airway while lying down or sleeping. Hence it can make asthma worse, or can imitate ashma where none actually exists. Prevailing opinion is that it is due to incompetent gastroesophageal sphincter muscle (valve at bottom of esophagus where it enters stomach). Aside from surgery to fix muscle, acid control via {*filter*} seems to be main therapy. Modification of eating habits and sleeping posture are also recommended. I do not have asthma, but when I am not taking Prilosec (another brand of omeprazole or Losec), I can awaken at night gagging on reflux and have a case of pneumonitis the next day, sometimes with a fever. I took over-the-counter antacids and prescription Tagamet (cimetidine) for years before I was put on Prilosec a few years ago. Since then I have almost zero problem with GERD, although I am still careful about what I eat before bedtime. I also sleep with upper body elevated as a further precaution. Even if you are not aware of burning in throat or chest (heartburn) either during the day or while lying down to sleep at night, you might still be refluxing while sleeping, thus aggravating your asthma. That is why they want to try the Losec. If reflux is a problem for you, I would certainly wonder about possible aggravation of GERD by all of the other {*filter*} you are taking. With that many meds, how can anyone figure out what is causing what? Many meds have gastrointestinal side effects. Dick Quote:
>However, they have now added two more {*filter*} as they seem to think that >Gastroesophageal Reflux might be making my asthma difficult to treat. >They are called Ranitidine and Losec. Could anybody tell me what the >connection is between Gastroesophogeal Reflux and difficult to treat >asthma and how these two {*filter*} control the G. Reflux ? >I am going for an upper GI test later this week to test for the presence >of the G. Reflux. >Any information would be helpful. I have had severe asthma for about 8 >years now and this is the first time that they have investigated the >G. Reflux thing.
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dick Balla #5 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
Addendum to my last post: Ranitidine (Zantac), like Tagamet, is an H2 blocker which inhibits acid production system but also affects other systems. Omeprazole (Prilosec) and Losec are "proton pump inhibitors" which more directly inhibit acid production in stomach and therefore seem to have a more focused effect without some of the systemic side effects of the H2 blockers. Lansoprazole (Prevacid) is another drug in the same family. Prilosec and Prevacid are sustained release, so for many people it is a one a day regimen. Losec is an earlier drug in family. Dick Quote:
>However, they have now added two more {*filter*} as they seem to think that >Gastroesophageal Reflux might be making my asthma difficult to treat. >They are called Ranitidine and Losec. Could anybody tell me what the >connection is between Gastroesophogeal Reflux and difficult to treat >asthma and how these two {*filter*} control the G. Reflux ? >I am going for an upper GI test later this week to test for the presence >of the G. Reflux. >Any information would be helpful. I have had severe asthma for about 8 >years now and this is the first time that they have investigated the >G. Reflux thing.
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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andreie.. #6 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
I assume the reason they are investigating the gastroesophageal reflux aspect is that when you are lying flat in bed the acid from your stomach could have backed up far enough that some of it was getting in your lungs. Having a dose of stomach acid every night in your lungs could cause pneumonia and asthma symptoms. I assume they have given the usual advice about putting blocks under the head of your bed and not eating or drinking anything the last few hours before going to bed (so the stomach won't be full). Normally if a patient fails on Zantac they switch to Prilosec (omeprazole) or Prevacid (lansoprazole). Since the Proton pump inhibitors are so much more potent than the H2 inhibitors, there's no need to take Zantac too if you are on Prilosec.
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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@maroon.tc.umn.ed #7 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
Fully agree with{*filter*}. There is a GERD-mechanism that plays a role (primary, secondary or contributory). Asthmatic process in these cases may greatly depend on gastric reflexes. If the condition is suspected proton-pump inhibitors(omeprazole) and iprat{*filter*} bromide (Atrovent) are added.As th pt.has possilbe GERD it may be rational to discontinue Theophylline as it rises the production of stomach acid and complicating the situation. The aspect of surgery is full of controvercy: pt.has a long history of asthma and (I give 90 % chance) there has been changes in mucosal and submucosal layers of the bronchi that are typical for asthmatics to have :autoimmune inflammation, mucosal edema, smooth muscle spasms (and all autoimmune mechnisms that may be involved like hyper IgE-emia, eosinophilia, mucosal changes, etc).If this is so, there might be a great chance of intolerance of anesthetics -- anaphylaxis. Even with 8 yr. Med hist of asthma endoscopy is sometimes dangerous because of possible copmlications. Rph's will agree that sometimes ranitidine does interact with Thephylline,though clinical significance varies from pt to pt. There are reports of increased serum levels of theophylline when on Ranitidine.Prilosec here is safer. Andy
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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mary hartiga #8 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
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> I took over-the-counter antacids and prescription Tagamet (cimetidine) > for years before I was put on Prilosec a few years ago. Since then I > have almost zero problem with GERD, although I am still careful about > what I eat before bedtime. I also sleep with upper body elevated as a > further precaution.
Dick, How long have you taken Prilosec? It was prescribed for me a few years ago, but at that time my doctor said it should only be taken for 90 days at most without a break. I didn't take it at all for a few years, and now my current doc has me on it with a PRN script. I'm to take it and Propulsid every day. Has the thinking changed about taking Prilosec for the long term? I did ask my doc, but we were talking about lots of stuff and he just reassured me that it was OK to take it. Thanks. mary
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Sun, 01 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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John Guzoba #9 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
Quote: > now my current doc has me on it with a PRN script. I'm to take it and > Propulsid every day. Has the thinking changed about taking Prilosec for > the long term? I did ask my doc, but we were talking about lots of > stuff and he just reassured me that it was OK to take it.
This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask the group. Prilosec (and other antacids, I presume) raise GI pH, so what to do in the case of a patient who needs lower pH, like someone who has uncomplicated iron deficiency anemia, where acidic conditions are needed for optimal absorption ?
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Thu, 05 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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Dick Balla #10 / 11
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 Gastroesophageal Reflux and Asthma
I've been on Prilosec for about 3 years. The earlier labeling warnings about long term use have been dropped (FDA action in 1995). There were concerns about cancer due to lab rat studies during testing, but years of Prilosec use in USA and abroad have not supported this fear. As always with potent {*filter*}, there is still risk, but the risk of not taking the drug is more significant in many cases. Dick Quote:
>How long have you taken Prilosec? It was prescribed for me a few years >ago, but at that time my doctor said it should only be taken for 90 days >at most without a break. I didn't take it at all for a few years, and >now my current doc has me on it with a PRN script. I'm to take it and >Propulsid every day. Has the thinking changed about taking Prilosec for >the long term? I did ask my doc, but we were talking about lots of >stuff and he just reassured me that it was OK to take it.
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Sat, 07 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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drach #11 / 11
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> I've been on Prilosec for about 3 years. The earlier labeling > warnings about long term use have been dropped (FDA action in 1995). > There were concerns about cancer due to lab rat studies during > testing, but years of Prilosec use in USA and abroad have not > supported this fear. As always with potent {*filter*}, there is still > risk, but the risk of not taking the drug is more significant in many > cases. >{*filter*}
> >How long have you taken Prilosec? It was prescribed for me a few years > >ago, but at that time my doctor said it should only be taken for 90 days > >at most without a break. I didn't take it at all for a few years, and > >now my current doc has me on it with a PRN script. I'm to take it and > >Propulsid every day. Has the thinking changed about taking Prilosec for > >the long term? I did ask my doc, but we were talking about lots of > >stuff and he just reassured me that it was OK to take it.
I would still not advise the use of Prilosec for long term therapy, Prevacid (lansoprazole), is a proton pump inhibitor just like Prilosec and it has not been associated with cancer in labratory animals. J.R. RPh.
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Sat, 07 Aug 1999 03:00:00 GMT |
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