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 sarin / organophosphates

Could someone tell me why the cholonergicly inervated tissues are those
that are the most effected from organophosphate poisoning with respect to
the adrenegically inervated tissues.
Surely both are stimulated as acetylecholine is the preganglionic
transmitter for both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems.


Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:47:06 GMT
 sarin / organophosphates
In article <k tissues in terms of recptor sites or enzyme inhibition.

Paul De La Franier
Pharmacy Student
University of Toronto

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>Could someone tell me why the cholonergicly inervated tissues are those
>that are the most effected from organophosphate poisoning with respect to
>the adrenegically inervated tissues.
>Surely both are stimulated as acetylecholine is the preganglionic
>transmitter for both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems.

My understanding is that organophosphates bind to and inhibit the function
of acetylcholinesterase, which is the enzyme which degrades acetylcholine
in the synaptic cleft in muscles.  As a result, acetylcholine is not degraded
and accumulates where it acts as a constant contractionf the muscles.
The muscles controlling respiration are not able to undergo their normal
cycle of contraction and relaxation and the organism dies.

Other organophosphates bind to the recpetor molecules, preveting
acetylcholine from binding to them.  In muscles, this again does not
allow them to contract in respone to nervous stimulation.

I do not believe that organophosphates have any effect on the
adrenegically



Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:08:07 GMT
 sarin / organophosphates

Quote:
>In article <k tissues in terms of recptor sites or enzyme inhibition.

>Paul De La Franier
>Pharmacy Student
>University of Toronto

>>Could someone tell me why the cholonergicly inervated tissues are those
>>that are the most effected from organophosphate poisoning with respect to
>>the adrenegically inervated tissues.
>>Surely both are stimulated as acetylecholine is the preganglionic
>>transmitter for both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems.

>My understanding is that organophosphates bind to and inhibit the function
>of acetylcholinesterase, which is the enzyme which degrades acetylcholine
>in the synaptic cleft in muscles.  As a result, acetylcholine is not degraded
>and accumulates where it acts as a constant contractionf the muscles.
>The muscles controlling respiration are not able to undergo their normal
>cycle of contraction and relaxation and the organism dies.

>Other organophosphates bind to the recpetor molecules, preveting
>acetylcholine from binding to them.  In muscles, this again does not
>allow them to contract in respone to nervous stimulation.

>I do not believe that organophosphates have any effect on the
>adrenegically

(Irreversible) anti-ChE agents like Sarin have also an effect on adrenergically innervated tissues: AcH is the neurotransmitter in the ganglia of both the parasympathic and the sympathic system, and Sarin effects all the sites where
AcH is released.

Hans Neutel.



Sun, 14 Sep 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 sarin / organophosphates

Quote:

> Could someone tell me why the cholonergicly inervated tissues are those
> that are the most effected from organophosphate poisoning with respect to
> the adrenegically inervated tissues.
> Surely both are stimulated as acetylecholine is the preganglionic
> transmitter for both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems.

Adrenergic neurons by definition use norepinephrine as a neurotransmitter
not acetylchonline and thus are not affected by acetylcholinesterase
inhibitors.


Fri, 19 Sep 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 sarin / organophosphates

Quote:


>> Could someone tell me why the cholonergicly inervated tissues are those
>> that are the most effected from organophosphate poisoning with respect to
>> the adrenegically inervated tissues.
>> Surely both are stimulated as acetylecholine is the preganglionic
>> transmitter for both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems.

>Adrenergic neurons by definition use norepinephrine as a neurotransmitter
>not acetylchonline and thus are not affected by acetylcholinesterase
>inhibitors.

Isn't it true that sweatglands are innervated by the sympethatic nervous
system using acetylcholine (muscarine receptortype) as a neurotransmitter?

My believe is that anti-ChE agents like Sarin will effect all the
loci where ACh is released, including the autonomic ganglia of both the
sympethatic and parasympethatic system.

Hans Neutel



Sun, 21 Sep 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 sarin / organophosphates

Quote:

> Isn't it true that sweatglands are innervated by the sympethatic nervous
> system using acetylcholine (muscarine receptortype) as a neurotransmitter?

> My believe is that anti-ChE agents like Sarin will effect all the
> loci where ACh is released, including the autonomic ganglia of both the
> sympethatic and parasympethatic system.

> Hans Neutel

Sweat glands are innervated by both the cholinergic and adrenerigic
systems.  Cholinergic stimulation results in gneralized sweating and
adrenergic stimulation results in localized sweating.  You are correct in
stating that autonomic ganglia of both the parasympathetic and sympathetic
systems are cholinergic and thus would both be affected by sarin.  Indeed
sarin causes stimulation followed by depression or paralysis of all
autonomic ganglia. However, most organs have intrinsic activity such as
the heart, so that if you remove input from the autonomic system it will
continue to function --intrinsic heart beat is about 40 beats per minute.
So the symptoms that predominate when exposure to sarin occurs are due to
postganglionic cholinergic stimulation rather than paralysis of autonomic
ganglia.


Fri, 26 Sep 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 
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