Wellbutrin/Zyban aka bupropion long term adverse effects 
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 Wellbutrin/Zyban aka bupropion long term adverse effects

Hi,
I am very much in need of more information besides that included in the
wonderfully legally correct product inserts that come with the various
renditions of bupropion concerning long term adverse effects of the
drug, aka Wellbutrin/Zyban. I've scoured MEDLINE, MEDLARS, etc., etc.,
and myself and many others are still suffering from long term
disabilities, neuro, psychiatric and others after exposure to the drug
which don't show up in any clinical abstracts I can find. The
manufacturer's published info is very slick in it's promotion, as the
big bucks always guarantee, but the adverse effects we all are
experiencing long after cessation of either of the {*filter*} are only
conveniently listed in reports that showed up in the "open and
uncontrolled" clinical trial, both pre and post marketing; ergo,
disclaimer nirvana. Is there any such thing as post marketing
surveillance that is actually truthfully reflective of what's really
going on for a number of people, or is it a losing battle after being
pulled into the big pharmaceutical machines' fun and games of Russian
Roulette? Funny, I don't remember being invited into their billion
dollar house of horrors with my consent...Anybody have any leads as to
how to prove that this drug is inadequately promoted to doctors and the
public without the truth of its' propensity to cause much damage in many
unsuspecting individuals? Or is that just the nature of the game? Any
input would be greatly appreciated. In any event, we will continue to
grow in our networking as we struggle with our disabilities...Human
decency demands other have the right to know BEFORE they decide to dump
their money and lives into the pharmacuetical sacrificial coffers...
Collissa

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Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Wellbutrin/Zyban aka bupropion long term adverse effects
   >I am very much in need of more information besides that included in the
   >wonderfully legally correct product inserts that come with the various
   >renditions of bupropion concerning long term adverse effects of the
   >drug, aka Wellbutrin/Zyban. I've scoured MEDLINE, MEDLARS, etc., etc.,
   >and myself and many others are still suffering from long term
   >disabilities, neuro, psychiatric and others after exposure to the drug
   >which don't show up in any clinical abstracts I can find.

I wonder why that is?

I take it you don't admit to the possibility your symptoms just might not
be related to having taken bupropion.

   >The manufacturer's published info is very slick in it's promotion, as the
   >big bucks always guarantee, but the adverse effects we all are
   >experiencing long after cessation of either of the {*filter*} are only
   >conveniently listed in reports that showed up in the "open and
   >uncontrolled" clinical trial, both pre and post marketing; ergo,
   >disclaimer nirvana.

Like what for example?  And who's "we all"?

Have you considered contacting Betty Martini and her crusade
against Nutrasweet?  Or the "Lupron Victims Network"?
If nothing else, you could swap hyberboles.

--
Steve Dyer



Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Wellbutrin/Zyban aka bupropion long term adverse effects


Quote:


>    >I am very much in need of more information besides that included
in the
>    >wonderfully legally correct product inserts that come with the
various
>    >renditions of bupropion concerning long term adverse effects of
the
>    >drug, aka Wellbutrin/Zyban. I've scoured MEDLINE, MEDLARS, etc.,
etc.,
>    >and myself and many others are still suffering from long term
>    >disabilities, neuro, psychiatric and others after exposure to the
drug
>    >which don't show up in any clinical abstracts I can find.

> I wonder why that is?

> I take it you don't admit to the possibility your symptoms just might
not
> be related to having taken bupropion.

>    >The manufacturer's published info is very slick in it's promotion,
as the
>    >big bucks always guarantee, but the adverse effects we all are
>    >experiencing long after cessation of either of the {*filter*} are only
>    >conveniently listed in reports that showed up in the "open and
>    >uncontrolled" clinical trial, both pre and post marketing; ergo,
>    >disclaimer nirvana.

> Like what for example?  And who's "we all"?

Like various reports of myocardial infarction, glycosuria, hormone level
change (only we women might be alarmed by that one - obviously, you've
never been there), frequently reported ataxia/incoordinaiton, seizure,
myoclonus, dyskinesia and dystonia. Of course the list goes on to
include frequent mania/hypomania, hallucinations, depression, lessers
episodes of memory impairment, depersonalization,psychosis, dysphoria,
mood instability, paranoia, formal thought disorder and suicidal
ideation. These mentioned reflect but a few...

Postintroduction reports include, among others, orthostatic hypotension,
third degree heart block, liver damage, coma, delirium, parethesia,
unmasking of tardive dyskinesia, muscle ridgity/fever/rhabdomyolysis,
angioedema, and Stevens-Johnson syndrome.

The FDA MEDWATCH reports from mid '97 through mid '98 alone show an
unacceptable amount of deaths, suicides, serious neuro disorders,
strokes, and many other adverse reactions. Of course, unless you've been
bought and sold and tidily placed under a rock for some time now, you
must be aware that a very, very limited number of doctors actually file
MEDWATCHES and that the majority of the general public hasn't a clue as
to their right or even how to do so when experiencing an adverse
reaction. As we speak, the FDA is undergoing major changes due to the
totally inefficient post marketing system they have had in place until
recently...

"WE" include a group of 30+ individuals, and more who are being added to
our ranks daily, who DID experience one or more of the above listed
adverse reactions, ended up in hospitals and ER rooms on numerous
occasions after our short exposure to bupropion. "WE" are real, live,
human beings who did not have any of the above conditions prior to our
exposure. Mere coincidence? Sorry, once you've found yourself thrown to
the floor with your entire body writhing and locking inward as you
struggle to get your diaphram to do its automatic job of inhaling whilst
your three children look on in helpless horror as your lips are turning
blue after only 3.5 days exposure...oh well, I guess your belief system
gets a little enlightened somehow. Perhaps after being shuffled from
doctor to doctor who dared not whisper that the magic bullet they had
provided me for my exhaustion had caused neuro damage, now verified by
MRI and the head Professor Neurology at UCLA and another neuro
specialist in drug induce disorders. Or maybe once you've talked to the
wife of the 39 year old man who experienced massive strokes and weeks in
ICU who is now totally disabled at 41 after his short exposure to Zyban,
you'd take a second look between the white washed "official" report
lines.
I haven't the time nor the inclination to list all of the people, nor
their personal stories. But one thing is for sure. PRE DRUG -NO
SYMPTOMS, POST DRUG -MASSIVE SYMPTOMS.

Thanks for your recommendations...here's one for you and anybody else
interested in the facts behind the pharmaceutical dynasties' wonderful
contributions to our health: www.drugawareness.org/

Funny thing about the truth - it cuts to the heart of things...maybe
when more of that can be found in this world, people like me won't have
to go around rattling the cages of so many very well taken care of
comfortably ignorant people...

Quote:

> Have you considered contacting Betty Martini and her crusade
> against Nutrasweet?  Or the "Lupron Victims Network"?
> If nothing else, you could swap hyberboles.

> --
> Steve Dyer

> Steve,

Again, thanks for the leads...

Collissa

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Tue, 26 Feb 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Wellbutrin/Zyban aka bupropion long term adverse effects

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Hi Steve - one of the "others" here.  Here are
answers to your wonderful comments and questions.
?

Quote:

>    > I am very much in need of more information

besides that included in the wonderfully legally
correct product inserts that come with the various
renditions of bupropion concerning long term
adverse effects of thedrug, aka Wellbutrin/Zyban.
I've scoured MEDLINE, MEDLARS, etc., etc.,and
myself and many others are still suffering from
long term disabilities, neuro, psychiatric and
others after exposure to the drug which don't show
up in any clinical abstracts I can find.

? I wonder why that is?
Why, because even the manufacturer admits it
doesn't know how the drug actually works.  The
study of neurotransmitters is relatively new and
the answers are still a long ways away.  Not every
drug put out there is a certainty.  Why is it that
some {*filter*} end up being pulled off the market
after release?  Because all too many times we are
guinea pigs for the drug companies to experiment
on.  Many results are not known for years or
generations later.
?

Quote:

> I take it you don't admit to the possibility

your symptoms just might not be related to having
taken bupropion.
Sure we have, but how do you explain 34 people
experiencing the exact same long-term problems?
What about those who have never been sick before
taking this medication?  The product insert
received by doctors lists about 180 side effects
affected  the cardiovascular, hemo, and neuro
systems, and now says it can active latent
psychoses.  Some pharmacy inserts now say "side
effects may go after discontinuation of the drug.
 MAY is the key word here.  All of us have spent
hundreds, if not thousands on {*filter*} tests, MRIs,
EEGs, EKGs, more medication then you care to know
about, psych visits, emergency room visits,
hospital stays.  Some have lost their jobs (I'm
one), all aren't want they were before taking this
drug.

Quote:
>    >The manufacturer's published info is very

slick in it's promotion, as the big bucks always
guarantee, but the adverse effects we all are
experiencing long after cessation of either of the
{*filter*} are only conveniently listed in reports that
showed up in the "open and uncontrolled" clinical
trial, both pre and
post marketing; ergo, disclaimer nirvana.
 >
Quote:
> Like what for example?  And who's "we all"?

I would love to provide you with my list of
people, but I will not evade their privacy.
Perhaps you'd like each and every one of us to
describe what we are going through?  Here's a
partial list: mania, anxiety, seizures, brain
lesions, uncontrollable shaking, memory-loss,
memory -difficulties, stammering, word-finding
difficulties, neuro and muscular deterioration,
weakness, fatigue and more.

Quote:
> Have you considered contacting Betty Martini and

 her crusade against Nutrasweet?  Or the "Lupron
Victims Network"?  If nothing else, you could swap
hyberboles
.
Good idea.  We could use all the help we can get.
 Remember, just because something doesn't affect
you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect some else.  We
are all physiologically different.  I have a close
friend who can die if she takes nutrasweet.  I
have another who gets incredible migraines from
the simplest smells, including everyday household
products and perfumes.  I know of a kid who swells
up and ends up with rashes just from pepper.  Want
more examples?  I think you might want to educate
yourself a little more about the different
physically, neurological and psychological
reactions to medications and foods before you
start shooting your mouth off in the manner that
you did.  How about an apology?
Quote:
> --

Debby Gincig Painter
21 months and counting

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