Phentermine/Urinary Retention 
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 Phentermine/Urinary Retention

Anyone know of anything I can take to stop this annoying side effect?  I
get up at least 3 times a night urinate.  I feel like I have to push a
bit to help myself void and then it seems my bladder doesn't quite empty
fully afterwards.  It makes me feel like I am in my last months of
pregnancy again!!!!  :)

Any help would be appreciated.

Terri



Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 Phentermine/Urinary Retention



   >Anyone know of anything I can take to stop this annoying side effect?  I
   >get up at least 3 times a night urinate.  I feel like I have to push a
   >bit to help myself void and then it seems my bladder doesn't quite empty
   >fully afterwards.  It makes me feel like I am in my last months of
   >pregnancy again!!!!  :)

This is a direct consequence of the drug's pharmacological actions.
{*filter*} with alpha-adrenergic activity like phentermine (and even pseudo-
ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine, common decongestants used for colds and
allergies) increase the tone of the urinary sphincter, thereby increasing the
force required of the bladder to overcome its resistance.  The net effect
is what you're experiencing.  In fact, this side effect is sometimes
exploited for women with stress incontinence by administering a cold/allergy
pill containing a decongestant like phenylpropanolamine (tightens up the
sphincter) along with an anticholinergic antihistamine like ChlorTrimeton
(relaxes the tone of the bladder.)

I'd talk to the doctor who prescribed this for you.  Phentermine has a
rather long half-life (20 hours or so), so it tends to persist in your
body well past your bedtime; in fact, it accumulates to a steady state after
a few days of daily administration.  Perhaps taking a lower daily dose
could avoid this, and if this is only a problem at bedtime, you might
ensure you take it early enough in the morning.  There are other "cousins"
of phentermine which have shorter half-lives.  Finally, there are some {*filter*}
which can directly or indirectly offset the effects of phentermine on the
sphincter, but I doubt they'd be used here rather than adjusting the dose
or eliminating the drug.

--
Steve Dyer



Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 Phentermine/Urinary Retention

Quote:

> This is a direct consequence of the drug's pharmacological actions.
> {*filter*} with alpha-adrenergic activity like phentermine (and even pseudo-
> ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine, common decongestants used for colds and
> allergies) increase the tone of the urinary sphincter, thereby increasing the
> force required of the bladder to overcome its resistance.  The net effect
> is what you're experiencing.  In fact, this side effect is sometimes
> exploited for women with stress incontinence by administering a cold/allergy
> pill containing a decongestant like phenylpropanolamine (tightens up the
> sphincter) along with an anticholinergic antihistamine like ChlorTrimeton
> (relaxes the tone of the bladder.)

> I'd talk to the doctor who prescribed this for you.  Phentermine has a
> rather long half-life (20 hours or so), so it tends to persist in your
> body well past your bedtime; in fact, it accumulates to a steady state after
> a few days of daily administration.  Perhaps taking a lower daily dose
> could avoid this, and if this is only a problem at bedtime, you might
> ensure you take it early enough in the morning.  There are other "cousins"
> of phentermine which have shorter half-lives.  Finally, there are some {*filter*}
> which can directly or indirectly offset the effects of phentermine on the
> sphincter, but I doubt they'd be used here rather than adjusting the dose
> or eliminating the drug.

> --
> Steve Dyer


Steve, thank you so much for this info.  We are very lucky to have you
contributing to this board as you appear to be a very caring and
intelligent individual.  Ok, now that your back has been sufficiently
patted :) could you please tell me what Phentermine's "cousins" are (and
who slept with who to make this offspring possible!?) so I know what to
ask for. My doctor perscribed these meds to me without knowing hardly
anything about them (I brought in the information to her).  Also, is this
side effect harming my bladder in any way or is it just an annoyance?

Thanks in advance!
Terri



Sat, 24 Oct 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 Phentermine/Urinary Retention

Hi Steve,

Quote:



>>Anyone know of anything I can take to stop this annoying side effect?  I
>>get up at least 3 times a night urinate.  I feel like I have to push a
>>bit to help myself void and then it seems my bladder doesn't quite empty
>>fully afterwards.  It makes me feel like I am in my last months of
>>pregnancy again!!!!  :)

>This is a direct consequence of the drug's pharmacological actions.
>{*filter*} with alpha-adrenergic activity like phentermine (and even pseudo-
>ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine, common decongestants used for colds and
>allergies) increase the tone of the urinary sphincter, thereby increasing the
>force required of the bladder to overcome its resistance.  The net effect
>is what you're experiencing.

---- Lots of useful info snipped for brevity ----

Quote:
>Steve Dyer


Hmmm, I have had this problem to some extent, too, and didn't connect it
with the {*filter*}. From what you've said, perhaps Terri and I might be good
candidates for trying the Dexfen alone when it becomes available... Would
that logically help the condition?

-- Maria

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