Testosterone Transdermal Patch 
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 Testosterone Transdermal Patch

When males with low T levels use the Testosterone 5mg transdermal patch,
their T goes to the mid point of the normal range. However, since almost
all values associated with T levels change according to age, it is not
clear to me what "normal" means.

Do physicians ever prescribe a 5mg patch, plus a 2.5mg patch?  If so,
what is the effect, both physically and emotionally?

Does anyone know of any studies in which participants were given above
standard amounts of T via patch?

When using a 5mg patch, does a males normal production of T stop?

Does there exist a table of normal levels of T, FT, BT, DHT and
Estradiol broken down by {*filter*} ages. i.e., 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 etc,
years old?

FRED



Tue, 23 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch


Quote:

>When males with low T levels use the Testosterone 5mg transdermal patch,
>their T goes to the mid point of the normal range. However, since almost
>all values associated with T levels change according to age, it is not
>clear to me what "normal" means.

"Normal ranges" vary by laboratory, but are based on average levels of
the assays the labs perform.  Sometimes they will be broken out by
age.  I think all current T patches are approved for men roughly 18-65
and probably haven't been tested extensively in older men.

Quote:

>Do physicians ever prescribe a 5mg patch, plus a 2.5mg patch?  If so,
>what is the effect, both physically and emotionally?

Some menhave probably tried 7.5 mg dose.  A physicain might prescribe
it if a man hasn't responded adequately to a 5 mg dose.  Anyone have
any experience with >5 mg dose?

Quote:

>Does anyone know of any studies in which participants were given above
>standard amounts of T via patch?

I don't.

Quote:

>When using a 5mg patch, does a males normal production of T stop?

It is suppressed.
Quote:

>Does there exist a table of normal levels of T, FT, BT, DHT and
>Estradiol broken down by {*filter*} ages. i.e., 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 etc,
>years old?

Specific labs may do so, but I think it's unlikely.  More likely would
be:

Pre-pubertal, 15-20, 20-65, >65.
Normal range for men 20-65 is quite variable, most normal ranges for
these ages are around 300 - 1000 ng/dl.

VM

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>FRED



Sat, 27 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch
The company claims that because the dosage wanes during its 23 hour useage,
your own production doesn't shut down, producing a true "augmentation". I would
take this with a grain of salt. I used the 5mg patch for about 8 months, and my
T. level actually dropped way down even further. I've been on shots 2x/month
and am much happier.


Sun, 28 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch
Were you supposed to go off of it after several weeks for a period of
time?  Is that only meant for weightlifters?



Quote:
> The company claims that because the dosage wanes during its 23 hour
useage,
> your own production doesn't shut down, producing a true

"augmentation". I would

Quote:
> take this with a grain of salt. I used the 5mg patch for about 8
months, and my
> T. level actually dropped way down even further. I've been on shots
2x/month
> and am much happier.

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Mon, 29 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch
I never heard of such a thing as going off of it for awhile. It is not meant
for weightlifters. The dosage is meant to bring one's level into a very
normal/average range, not the high range that bodybuilders seek.


Mon, 29 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch

Quote:
>The company claims that because the dosage wanes during its 23 hour useage,
>your own production doesn't shut down, producing a true "augmentation". I would
>take this with a grain of salt. I used the 5mg patch for about 8 months, and my
>T. level actually dropped way down even further. I've been on shots 2x/month
>and am much happier.

The "company" does not claim (anywhere that I've seen) that your
production is not shut down.  In fact it is a known and described fact
that testosterone supplementation will supress endogenous production.
After using 5 mg/day for 8 months it would be expected that your own
production would be supressed ("dropped way down even further").  A
more appropriate measure is to have a testosterone measurement within
a few hours after applying the patch to see what your levels are when
supplemented.  

VM



Sat, 03 Nov 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch
Thank you, but I beg to differ. Perhaps they have gotten off that kick as of
late, but several years ago, that is what was at least implied to doctors.. and
passed on to me. Who are you? Someone with Alza Pharm.? If not, why so
indignant?


Sun, 04 Nov 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Testosterone Transdermal Patch

Quote:
>Thank you, but I beg to differ. Perhaps they have gotten off that kick as of
>late, but several years ago, that is what was at least implied to doctors.. and
>passed on to me.  

Just seems highly doubtful to me.

Who are you? Someone with Alza Pharm.?

No I don't work for Alza.  I would just prefer to not see
misinformation posted here.



Tue, 06 Nov 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 
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