Life expectancy of vegetarians? 
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 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

Hi,

I'm looking for information as to the life expectancy of vegetarians.
I suppose I'm interested in trivia, but needless to say it's the scientific
studies, if any have been performed, which interest me most.

Thanks in advance for any leads.

Zack Smith

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Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:04:32 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

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>Subject: Life expectancy of vegetarians?
>Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 14:04:32 GMT
>Hi,

>I'm looking for information as to the life expectancy of vegetarians.

Hmmm.  Since I haven't had much sleep and am feeling childish, I'll respond.

Life expectency of vegetarians?  Inversely proportional to the number of
FACT_CITY posts on s.m.n.

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Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:19:15 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

writes:

Quote:
>I'm looking for information as to the life expectancy of vegetarians.
>I suppose I'm interested in trivia, but needless to say it's the
scientific
>studies, if any have been performed, which interest me most.

Try life insurance companies.  If they offer lower rates to vegies, life
expectancy is probably longer; otherwise doubtful.


Thu, 09 Jan 1997 03:17:01 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

Quote:

> Try life insurance companies.  If they offer lower rates to vegies,
> life expectancy is probably longer; otherwise doubtful.

Not necessarily.  How could they tell who was a vegetarian?

I suppose they could test one's nitrogen isotope ratio.  But when I
suggested such a thing I was quickly flamed to a cinder.
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Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:00:41 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

Quote:
{*filter*}) writes:
>>Not necessarily.  How could they tell who was a vegetarian?

Some offer discounts to non-smokers and non-drinkers.  They usually just
accept your statement or, at most, require a physical before approval.


Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:28:03 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

Quote:


>> Try life insurance companies.  If they offer lower rates to vegies,
>> life expectancy is probably longer; otherwise doubtful.

>Not necessarily.  How could they tell who was a vegetarian?

>I suppose they could test one's nitrogen isotope ratio.  But when I
>suggested such a thing I was quickly flamed to a cinder.

Huh? I would be shocked if it were possible, but this is interesting.
How does the nitrogen isotope ratio changes over the year it takes
nitrogen to get from the plant, into the cow, and in your plate?

G.B.



Fri, 17 Jan 1997 03:25:00 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

Quote:


>> Try life insurance companies.  If they offer lower rates to vegies,
>> life expectancy is probably longer; otherwise doubtful.
>Not necessarily.  How could they tell who was a vegetarian?
>I suppose they could test one's nitrogen isotope ratio.  But when I
>suggested such a thing I was quickly flamed to a cinder.
>--


I think stool sample would provide sufficient evidence to prove
whether one is a real vegetarian.  There are quite noticable
differences in the smell, texture, and bacterial count between the
feces of vegetarians and those of meat-eaters.  Bowel movements are
the best part of being a vegetarian  ;-)

                                           --KWT



Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:41:14 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

: I think stool sample would provide sufficient evidence to prove
: whether one is a real vegetarian.  There are quite noticable
: differences in the smell, texture, and bacterial count between the
: feces of vegetarians and those of meat-eaters.  Bowel movements are
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: the best part of being a vegetarian  ;-)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:                                          --KWT

Wheeee! I'll start today! I knew Mr. Maharaj knew something I didn't.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Lee Conner



Sun, 19 Jan 1997 03:13:49 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

    Fact City 6                        Longevity

    The cultures  with the longest  lifespans in the  world are the
    Vicambas, who reside in the Andes  of Ecuador,  the Abkhasians,
    who live  on the Black Sea  in the former USSR,  and the Hunzas
    who live in the Himalays of Northern India.

    Researchers discovered  a striking similarity  in the diets  of
    these groups,  scattered though they  arein different parts  of
    the planet. All three are either totally vegetarian or close to
    it.  The Hunzas,  who are the largest of the three  groups, eat
    almost  no animal  products.  Meat and dairy  products combined
    account for only 1?% of their total calories.

    -- Leaf, A., National Geographic, 143:93, 1973
    -- Robbins, John, "Diet for A New America"
        Stillpoint, 1987, pg. 155
    -- Hur,  Robin, "Food Reform: Our  Desperate Need"
        Heidelburg, 1975, pg. 95

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Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:18:41 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?

DJ.The cultures  with the longest  lifespans in the  world are the
.Vicambas, who reside in the Andes  of Ecuador,  the Abkhasians,
.who live  on the Black Sea  in the former USSR,  and the Hunzas
.who live in the Himalays of Northern India.

DJ.Researchers discovered  a striking similarity  in the diets  of
.these groups,  scattered though they  arein different parts  of
.the planet. All three are either totally vegetarian or close to
.it.  The Hunzas,  who are the largest of the three  groups, eat
.almost  no animal  products.  Meat and dairy  products combined
.account for only 1.% of their total calories.

Is that because no meat is available where these people live, or
because not eating meat has made these people live a long time?

Do you know?


* 1st 2.00b #1780s *



Wed, 22 Jan 1997 02:48:00 GMT
 Life expectancy of vegetarians?


Gee, I went away for a couple of months and no on has *yet* found out
if vegies live longer.  I really wanted to know.  The latest {*filter*}on
the tube says that eating a "low fat diet" extends your life by about
20 minutes!  But, hey, it's a *quality* 20 minutes.  They/ve got to
be kidding..

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Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:20:14 GMT
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Quote:

>DJ.The cultures  with the longest lifespans in the world are the
>.Vicambas, who reside in the Andes  of Ecuador,  the Abkhasians,
>.who live  on the Black Sea  in the former USSR,  and the Hunzas
>.who live in the Himalays of Northern India.

>DJ.Researchers discovered a striking similarity in the diets  of
>.these groups,  scattered though they are in different parts  of
>.the planet. All three are either totally vegetarian or close to
>.it.  The Hunzas,  who are the largest of the three  groups, eat
>.almost  no animal  products.  Meat and dairy  products combined
>.account for only 1.5% of their total calories.
> Is that because no meat is available where these people live, or
> because not eating meat has made these people live a long time?
> Do you know?


     The nearly-100% meatless cooking.net">food is the reason.  There is more
evidence: ". . . after World War II, scientists began for the first
time to compile comprehensive statistics correlating the
diet-styles and health of all the populations in the world.  One
fact that emerged consistently was the strong correlation between
heavy flesh-eating and short life expectancy.  The Eskimos, the
Laplanders, the Greenlanders, and the Russian Kurgi tribes stood
out as the populations with the highest animal flesh consumption in
the world -- and also as among the populations with the lowest life
expectancies, often only about 30 years."
     For more information, please refer to the following sources.
The text in quotes is from the first source mentioned.

Robbins, John, DIET FOR A NEW AMERICA
               Stillpoint, 1987, pages 154, 155.
Kapleau, Philip, TO CHERISH ALL LIFE
               Harper & Row, 1981, page 67.

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Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:39:02 GMT
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>>DJ.The cultures  with the longest lifespans in the world are the
>>.Vicambas, who reside in the Andes  of Ecuador,  the Abkhasians,
>>.who live  on the Black Sea  in the former USSR,  and the Hunzas
>>.who live in the Himalays of Northern India.

It was reported that the long lifespans reported in the USSR
were caused by draft dodging.  The deceased's identities were
assumed by their sons or grandsons so they would avoid military
service.  More elegant than going to Canada...

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Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:37:38 GMT
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^Doctors Find Clues to Asians' High Rate of Heart Disease<
^By RANDI HUTTER EPSTEIN=
^Associated Press Writer=
           LONDON (AP) _ Two days after the Indian New Year in October,
Harchand Singh collapsed in the middle of a busy intersection and
cracked his skull.
           The next thing he remembered was lying in a hospital bed and
doctors talking about clogged {*filter*} vessels. Singh, a taxi driver,
had suffered a heart attack. Singh, a strict vegetarian with normal
levels of cholesterol, was only 38.
           ``I'd been getting a bit of pain in my chest but I thought maybe
I ate too much during the New Year celebration. The doctors said my
{*filter*} got blocked,'' said Singh, who was stunned by the news.
           Among the South Asian community here _ people from India,
Pakistan and Bangladesh _ Singh's story is not unusual. Their rate
of heart disease is 40 percent higher compared to the rest of
Britain, according to surveys by Dr. Paul McKeigue, a researcher at
the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
           South Asians in Trinidad have double the national average for
heart disease. In Singapore their risk is nearly four times that of
the Chinese, said McKeigue, in a telephone interview from Bahrain,
where he is continuing his heart disease surveys.
           What's baffled doctors is that many patients, like Singh, have
none of the typical warning signs, such as high cholesterol.
           ``Diet does not explain why Indians are doing so badly,'' said
McKeigue. ``If anything the Indians have a better diet, lower
saturated fats and higher intake of vegetables and pulses
(beans).''
           Mounting evidence suggests that heart disease among South Asians
is linked to a defect in the pancreas' production of insulin, which
regulates {*filter*} sugar. The sugar problem alone may not spark heart
attacks. But combined with a high-fat diet _ vegetarians can get
plenty of fat from butter and cheese _ the two risks dramatically
up the chances of getting sick, say doctors.
           That may also provide clues to understand why the illness
sometimes strikes Americans and Europeans with normal cholesterol
levels.
           Though doctors do not understand precisely how insulin is linked
to heart disease, they suspect it has to do with the {*filter*}-clotting
system. When the insulin-creating system malfunctions, it throws a
cascade of {*filter*}-clotting chemicals out of sync. This makes {*filter*}
vessels more likely to clog.
           Severe defects in insulin production trigger diabetes. But even
people without full-blown diabetes are at increased risk of heart
attacks, say doctors.
           Dr. Ami Laws, an assistant professor of medicine at Stanford
University, has been studying heart disease among South Asians in
the United States; she has found that their rate is about double
the national average. Unlike McKeigue, who does population surveys,
Laws delves deeper into the {*filter*} chemistry.
           Her most recent study, published in the June issue of
Arteriosclerosis and Thrombosis, found that the Indians studied
were 60 percent more likely to have an insulin system defect. The
findings were based on comparing 22 {*filter*} samples from people of
Indian descent to an equal number from white Americans.
           At a British Cardiac Society meeting in May, Dr. David de Bono
presented results of a similar study comparing {*filter*} samples among
190 boys in England, half of Indian descent and half European. He
not only detected a higher rate of insulin defects among the Indian
boys, he also spotted increased levels of another {*filter*} chemical,
called Lp(a).
           The Lp(a) findings suggests that insulin may be only partly to
blame, said de Bono, a professor of cardiology at Leicester
University. Lp(a) plays a role in the {*filter*}-clotting system.
Previous studies have linked increased levels to a higher risk of
heart disease.
           ``I would emphasize that it's not just South Asians. They are
giving us insight into what is going on. I think if we look at risk
factors to predict coronary disease, it's going to be insulin,
Lp(a), total cholesterol and HDL,'' said de Bono.
           HDL is called the ``good'' cholesterol because it ferries fat
out of the {*filter*}. Low HDL may be one of several risk factors for
heart disease.
           ``We see cholesterol as one player in a big orchestra,'' de Bono
said.


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