oranges, persimmons, coconuts,
berries, green beans, figs, apples, sauerkraut, brussels sprouts, and potato
peel

1: J Am Diet Assoc  1987 Dec;87(12):1675-7

Foods high in fiber and phytobezoar formation.

Emerson AP.

Clinical and Community Dietetics, College of Health Related Professions,
University of Florida, Gainesville.

High-fiber diets are being recommended by government agencies, cancer
institutes, and manufacturers of high-fiber foods. Although this recommendation
is appropriate for the majority of clients, some persons are prone to form
phytobezoars and should not add certain kinds of fiber to the diet. The
phytobezoar is a compact mass of fibers, skins, seeds, leaves, roots, or stems
of plants that collects in the stomach or small intestine. Other cooking.net">food particles,
such as fats, crystals, granules, fibers, and residues of salts, are
incorporated into the mass and contribute to the growth of the bezoar. Clients
who have undergone surgical procedures for peptic ulcer disease or stomach
cancer or who for other reasons, such as diabetic gastroparesis, have a loss of
normal pyloric function and decreased gastric acidity are prone to form
phytobezoars. Once formed, the bezoar can be disintegrated through surgery, by
the use of the Water Pik and enzymes during endoscopy, or by treatment with
metoclopramide. The dietitian should advise such clients to avoid identified
foods that lead to phytobezoar formation--oranges, persimmons, coconuts,
berries, green beans, figs, apples, sauerkraut, brussels sprouts, and potato
peel.

PMID: 2824590 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Does anybody ever reply to your posts, Wuzzy?  I sure have not seen any
evidence of it.

Your abstract points out to me the primary motivation for being proactive in
the first place.

Avoiding being put under the knife, at all costs!!!

I have received helpful replies at a constant basis, some not visible
to yourself..  But you are correct, i do tend to post too
much/saltatorily.. I will post less - it is just stuff i am interested
in i'm sure others aren't interested but i never noticed..  also
this'll free up time for emails i have to reply to..  i'll do what
some of the ppl on here do which is just watch for other posts and
reply on the odd time..

are their ways of knowing firsthand that one should avoid these healthy
foods, I eat the likes every day (especially apples) I'd hate to find out
there is some bad reaction taking place.
 Wuzzy by the way have you read the glucose revolution, if so what did you
think, is there a lot more important info the book does not discuss. I just
picked it up yesterday and after the first three chapters their seems to be
a lot of good things to say about carbohydrates, I was led under the
impression of people such as Dr. Mercola that carbs are bad, and to be
avoided, even those who are not diabetic or insulin res., for basic health
promoting reasons.
comments please

yep i've read it, its good kind of misleading at times, for instance
they cite uncle ben's rice as being low gi, when if you look at the
original study (it is the international one with australia, toronto
etc. values - it is lying around somewhere on my computer) there are
two values for uncle bens, the low one reported and the high one..
the high one seems more likely given how rice is generally in this
range..

glycemic index is complex, i'm still running queries, and i constantly
revise my ideas on it.. i've switched to logistic regression: Hi index
(>60) vs. low index (<60) as recommended by others on this board..
Also for serum insulin  levels i have finally found use for it, you
have to use 2hr 2nd withdrawn insulin as well as discrimiinant
analysis/logistic regression on high insulin vs. low  insulin to find
a correlation..  linear models did not work because the questionnaire
is not linear..

if anyone is interested, i ran discriminant analysis on 2,000 people
for hair loss and height was negatively correlated whereas tricept
skinfold was positively correlated with hair loss, i took the
residuals from age to factor out age..

basically  Degree of Androgenic Hair Loss= -Height + Tricept skinfold
where height and tricept are standardized and predict equal amounts of
hair loss.

so there is no doubt in my mind that this is so..

the study i did is much more complex if anyone watns to see my results
on things like cooking.net">food etc. it has graphs and stuff and shows
definitievely i think a relation..  i just ran it for fun, i'm only 23
years old and i found only when you are about 70 do you get hair loss
hehe..  why not run such a query, though, it is fun..

woops i forgot to report that the discriminant analysis was abl.e to
predict 59.35% of cases.. p value on chi square test (68.1) was like
zero..

Out, out damned spot,
'This rubbish is not droll
For John a troubled sot,
Is only a lame-ass troll.

His name is munged,
his headers forged,
His smarts expunged,
His mousie engorged.

"John 'Is here to troll'"

i'd be interested to see the results,  the diet especially.