Hi, ive started a diet and fitness program.
Im trying to eat low calories in everything, and low carbs as well
Im trying to ditch bread, its going to be hard :)

now, is this this best way at dieting by eating low calories and low
carbs?

ive totally ditched fast cooking.net">food and sports drinks/coke etc. Im drinking
just water.

in the past 5 days, ive lost 1 kilo, so doing good :)

im also eating 6 smaller meals during the day. I run about every second
night, and have sports on the others. Im going to go to the gym soon as
well.

any hints?

cheers
Dane

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Wow!  I just hope you aren't changing too much all at once.  Ditching the fast cooking.net">food and
coke is an excellent first step, and if you can maintain that long term I'm sure you could
see improvements with that alone.  If you do get cravings, don't be afraid to allow
yourself some sensible choices - a slice of whole wheat bread every other day won't do as
much harm as a fast-food burger each week.

Seems reasonably sensible.

Hi Dane... you might like to go to alt.support.diet.low-carb.  You will get
more help there on low carb

regards

Ophelia

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.......................................... arabian proverb

There have been 3 recent Health news stories that specifically address the
issues raised by these above comments of yours.  They were, of course,
reported upon in my Yahoo Group.

Should I post them here, rosie?

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sure, why not?

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rosie

he who has health has hope; and he who has hope, has everything.
.......................................... arabian proverb

Just make sure if you do eat bread, look at the nutrition label for high
fiber - at least 3g per slice.  The more fiber, the less refined carbs.
Reducing simple carbs like starch, potatoes, pasta, sugar can be very
helpful in losing weight.  I myself haven't totally given up these foods,
but I sure watch how much I eat of them.

Don't restrict calories too much.  A 500 calorie deficit per day (both by
calorie restriction and exercise) will result in a 1lb loss per week.

Wow!  If you were a fastfood regular and soda drinker, by making these
changes alone, you should drop a considerable amount of weight - as long as
you're not replacing all the calories with other ones!

Initially, you can have dramatic weight loss.  Just remember, some of it was
just water weight, and eventually, the losses will slow down.  This is
normal, so don't get discouraged!

That's great.  Consistant exercise and several small meals throughout the
day is a couple BIG things we talk about here.  Also, make sure you're
getting adequate protein, as weight loss tends to be catabolic (you'll
generally lose a pound of muscle for every 3-4 lbs of fat you lose).  To
combat this, you could add some resistance training, to build muscle.

You're doing great!

Determined

Once upon a time, our fellow rosie readandpost
   rambled on about "Re: Am i on the right track."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

See below.  :-)

Subject: Attitude: Study: Expectations vs Fantasies
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:02:16 +0000

Study: Expectations, Not Fantasies, Key to Success
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_10164.html
"Reuters Health

By Charnicia E. Huggins

Thursday, October 31, 2002

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Having positive expectations about the
future--whether it be about starting a new relationship or having
success in the job market--may indeed lead to success, but
fantasies, on the other hand, rarely come true, new study findings
suggest.

"Positive fantasies seduce a person to mentally enjoy the desired
future in the here and now, so there is not a lot of necessity to
act anymore," study author Dr. Gabriele Oettingen of New York
University in New York City told Reuters Health.

"Since there is no necessity to act, people will not plan how to
circumvent...any temptations, obstacles and hindrances that might
pave the way to success."

The Motivating Function of Thinking About the Future: Expectations
Versus Fantasies by Gabriele Oettingen and Doris Mayer
http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/1102ab.html#13
J Pers Soc Psychol. 2002;83:1198-1212
ABSTRACT:
"Positive expectations (judging a desired future as likely)
predicted high effort and successful performance, but the reverse
was true for positive fantasies (experiencing one's thoughts and
mental images about a desired future positively)."

And, here is an earlier related research study.

Oettingen G, Pak H, Schnetter K.
Self-regulation of goal setting: turning free fantasies about the
future into binding goals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&...
J Pers Soc Psychol. 2001 May;80(5):736-53.
PMID: 11374746
------------------------
COMMENTS:

"Study participants who fantasized about their success tended to
be less successful than those with positive expectations."

"Positive expectations appear to be based on an individual's
success in previous experiences, which may be "a good indicator
for future success," Oettingen said. Fantasies, however, are "not
based on past performance," and consequently may not include
thoughts of the possible roadblocks and hindrances often faced in
real life."

What does this mean?

Positive Thinking when taken to an excess produces a mania which
is counter productive, or a waste of time.  To be successful you
need to stop fantasizing about success and start planning and
strategizing as to exactly how you can become successful.

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   rambled on about "Re: Am i on the right track."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

See below.  :-)

Subject: Attitude: Full of Excuses?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:58:30 +0000

Full of Excuses? Deflecting Blame Not Always Wise
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_10389.html
"Reuters Health

By Amy Norton

Thursday, November 14, 2002

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Excuses for bad behavior may abound in
our but-it's-not-my-fault culture, but researchers say that
shifting blame from one's self can often backfire.

Psychologists at the University of Florida found that under
certain circumstances, excuses gain nothing more than ill feelings
from others. Their study of college students showed that people
who routinely avoid responsibility for mistakes and misdeeds risk
being viewed as lacking character and being deceitful and
self-absorbed.

And blaming others, giving a suspect excuse or using excuses that
completely ignore one's own weaknesses may win a similar fate,
according to the study findings, published in the current issue of
the Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology."

Beth A. Pontari; Barry R. Schlenker; Andrew N. Christopher
Excuses and Character: Identifying The Problematic Aspects Of
Excuses
http://alidoro.ingentaselect.com/vl=10316186/cl=21/nw=1/rpsv/cgi-bin/...
J Soc Clin Psychol 2002;21:497-516.
------------------------
COMMENTS:

"Blaming others, giving a suspect excuse or using excuses that
completely ignore one's own weaknesses" can be called living in
Fantasy.

Do you recall our recent post on Expectations vs Fantasies?

Subject: Attitude: Study: Expectations vs Fantasies
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:02:16 +0000
Study: Expectations, Not Fantasies, Key to Success
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_10164.html

Engaging in this type of behavior is also a Passive Coping Style.

Further, according to the abstract your associates might be
thinking that you are "unreliable, deceptive, ineffectual, and
narcissistic."

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Whre is this crock coming from
I have strategies for many contingent situations that will challenge me
to disregard the hard earned rewards of being slim for three years.
Are you that sams Johhnytroll?

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Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

So, why are 95% of my 100+ members are female?

Why is this support group actively giving out support?

Could be because it is working, just great!
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Health-with-Attitude is a support group for people
trying to follow a Healthy Lifestyle.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Health-with-Attitude/

Here's what has worked for me and my significant other.

Things we avoid:

- foods high in refined grains (ie. white flour) such as white bread,
pasta, cake, pancakes, donuts, etc.
- foods high in refined sugar such as soda, sweetened juices, candies,
etc
- foods high in starches - potatos in large amounts, corn in large
amounts, etc

Things we do:

- Eat 4 to 5 times a day, three small and filling meals and one or two
snacks.
- 2 to 4 oz meat, protein - chicken, fish, beef, pork, sometimes a
protein shake (when we are on the go) at each main meal, 1 oz of meat
with snacks
- Carbs are mostly green leafy stuff and any low-GI veggies, we eat
all we want, with real salad dressing, not high-sugar "diet" dressing
{*filter*}
- B complex vitamins with Folate and Vitamin C supplementation
- drink plenty of water
- do physical activity 3 - 4 times a week

We don't concern ourselves much about fat, other than to ensure than
we get a good portion of it from non-animal sources, such as fish and
vegetable oils.

It works. I've lost 15 lbs, attained and maintained my target weight.
My wife has lost 30+ lbs and is keeping it off, and continuing to lose
lbs and inches.

We feel good. We never go hungry... no weakness, dizziness, anxiety,
etc.

We eat very comfortably.

Also, once in a while we cheat a little. Everything in moderation
including moderation.

Keep it up, and keep us updated.

Terry