Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss? 
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 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Anyone have anything about this?

Thanks



Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Quote:

> Anyone have anything about this?

> Thanks

There are many, many causes of hair loss and you are not specific about
what causes yours (or someone you know) and their situation.  Here are
some general suggestions that have helped a lot of people without
permanent side effects:therapeutic foods: foods that tonify the Kidney,
Qi and Xue ({*filter*}) tonifying foods
foods rich in Silicon: alfalfa, comfrey, young horse tail, nettles,
onions, kelp (Airola, p. 49)
whole grains, seeds, nuts, oats, buckwheat, barley, sesame seeds, rye,
millet, rice, goat milk as yogurt or kefir, sunflower seeds, pumpkin
seeds, almonds, brewer's yeast, wheat germ (Airola, p. 49)

fresh juices:
steep oat straw tea ten minutes then add one tbsp. cherry concentrate
(Jensen)
nettles, spinach, carrot, red beet, alfalfa with a little onion juice
(Airola, p. 50)

specific remedies:
peel fresh ginger, dip into brandy and rub all over the scalp, b.i.d.
({*filter*}and Bloomfield, p. 136)
sting balding area with fresh stinging nettles (Shefi)
d apply to scalp, cover and leave it on overnight, every night for 2
weeks (Shefi)
mix 3 oz. cayenne pepper with 1/5 Romanoff Vodka or pure {*filter*}.
Tincture 2 weeks shaking bottle every day, then strain through cheese
cloth. Rub small amount into scalp twice a day. Keep away from eyes!
(Airola, p. 51)

avoid:
salt, sugar, {*filter*} (Airola, p. 49)

Dr. Van Beveren
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A. Van Beveren, Ph.D., CNC 609-924-7337   |Au-d.l.r.u?
Nutritional Biochemist and Physiologist   |

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Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Sorry - didn't read the question very well and just responded to what I
thought you wanted to know!
Yes - the answer is yes!

Quote:

> Anyone have anything about this?

> Thanks

--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A. Van Beveren, Ph.D., CNC 609-924-7337   |Au-d.l.r.u?
Nutritional Biochemist and Physiologist   |

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Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Dr. Van Beveren,

Thank you for ALL the information, which I very much appreciate.  My
problem is a genetically-inspired pattern baldness I suppose, but it
seems to have accelerated significantly since I began taking various
vitamin supplements.  I saw a reference elsewhere to vitamin A as a
problem and wanted some information from a reliable source.  

Your reply was one of those delightful (if rare) instances where one
gets much more than one expects.

Thanks again.



Quote:
>Sorry - didn't read the question very well and just responded to what I
>thought you wanted to know!
>Yes - the answer is yes!


>> Anyone have anything about this?

>> Thanks



Mon, 13 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Accutane, a very potent form of the vitamin used for severe cystic acne, has
caused thinning of hair in a few users, but you would have to take a large
amount of Vitamin A supplements to approximate this dosage level.

Quote:

>Dr. Van Beveren,

>Thank you for ALL the information, which I very much appreciate.  My
>problem is a genetically-inspired pattern baldness I suppose, but it
>seems to have accelerated significantly since I began taking various
>vitamin supplements.  I saw a reference elsewhere to vitamin A as a
>problem and wanted some information from a reliable source.

>Your reply was one of those delightful (if rare) instances where one
>gets much more than one expects.

>Thanks again.



>>Sorry - didn't read the question very well and just responded to what I
>>thought you wanted to know!
>>Yes - the answer is yes!


>>> Anyone have anything about this?

>>> Thanks



Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?



Quote:


>> Anyone have anything about this?

>> Thanks

>There are many, many causes of hair loss and you are not specific about
>what causes yours (or someone you know) and their situation.  Here are
>some general suggestions that have helped a lot of people without
>permanent side effects:therapeutic foods: foods that tonify the Kidney,
>Qi and Xue ({*filter*}) tonifying foods
> foods rich in Silicon: alfalfa, comfrey, young horse tail, nettles,
>onions, kelp (Airola, p. 49)
> whole grains, seeds, nuts, oats, buckwheat, barley, sesame seeds, rye,
>millet, rice, goat milk as yogurt or kefir, sunflower seeds, pumpkin
>seeds, almonds, brewer's yeast, wheat germ (Airola, p. 49)

>fresh juices:
> steep oat straw tea ten minutes then add one tbsp. cherry concentrate
>(Jensen)
> nettles, spinach, carrot, red beet, alfalfa with a little onion juice
>(Airola, p. 50)

>specific remedies:
> peel fresh ginger, dip into brandy and rub all over the scalp, b.i.d.
>({*filter*}and Bloomfield, p. 136)
> sting balding area with fresh stinging nettles (Shefi)
>d apply to scalp, cover and leave it on overnight, every night for 2
>weeks (Shefi)
> mix 3 oz. cayenne pepper with 1/5 Romanoff Vodka or pure {*filter*}.
>Tincture 2 weeks shaking bottle every day, then strain through cheese
>cloth. Rub small amount into scalp twice a day. Keep away from eyes!
>(Airola, p. 51)

>avoid:
> salt, sugar, {*filter*} (Airola, p. 49)

>Dr. Van Beveren

Qui?  Xue?  Sting balding area with nettles?  Good lord, I coulda
sworn I heard a duck!

Good grief.  Next you'll be bleeding people for humours.



Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Paul,

I believe Dr. Van Beveren is using the terminology of healing practice
that served mankind for the first 500,000 years of life on Earth.
Perhaps you prefer that of the last 100 years.  I have no problem with
either.

<Good grief.  Next you'll be bleeding people for humours.>

I have recently read in a learned journal that leeches are (once
again) being used for this purpose in several rather prestigious
medical facilities.  The next step will no doubt be to enact a law to
make it illegal to purchase a leech without a prescription.

Tom

Quote:
>>Dr. Van Beveren

>Qui?  Xue?  Sting balding area with nettles?  Good lord, I coulda
>sworn I heard a duck!

>Good grief.  Next you'll be bleeding people for humours.



Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

Quote:

>Paul,

>I believe Dr. Van Beveren is using the terminology of healing practice
>that served mankind for the first 500,000 years of life on Earth.
>Perhaps you prefer that of the last 100 years.  I have no problem with
>either.

Gee thanks.  Seriously, to put medical ideas from "500,000 years" ago
(or even 1000 years ago) on the same footing as treatments developed
in the last couple of hundred years is to deny the very idea of
learning.

As an asthmatic, I will gladly embrace today's therapies in preference
to those of my ancestors.  To paraphrase a real-estate marketing
slogan, "If you lived then, you'd be dead by now."

Quote:

><Good grief.  Next you'll be bleeding people for humours.>

>I have recently read in a learned journal that leeches are (once
>again) being used for this purpose in several rather prestigious
>medical facilities.

Not likely.  Leeches are being used in limb reattachment surgery
because their anticoagulants are uniquely effective at preventing
clotting in tiny sutured {*filter*} vessels.

"Bleeding for humours" was a very different process in which a
"doctor" used  knives to open wounds (sometimes directly into veins)
to let out the "bad humours", which were undefined disease vectors or
other toxins.  The usual outcome was the death of the patient.  The
attending quack would then wring his hands in regret and say to the
family "If only you had come to me sooner.  If only we had bled him
harder".  To me this sounds like the standard apologia of the
naturopath when faced with evidence of the failure of his "medicine".

Paul



Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

i know this is going to end up beind an amazingly long thread, but mr chefurka
for you to write "Seriously, to put medical ideas from "500,000 years" ago (or
even 1000 years ago) on the same footing as treatments developed in the last
couple of hundred years is to deny the very idea of learning." is about the
most ignorat thing i've ever heard. for your information, we still use a lot of
ancient healing practices in "modern" medicine, and a lot of the premiliminary
research and ideas for new medicines comes from research of old and folk
traditions. get a clue.

--SemioticK

(use the master's tools to destroy the master's house)



Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?


Quote:
>i know this is going to end up beind an amazingly long thread, but mr chefurka
>for you to write "Seriously, to put medical ideas from "500,000 years" ago (or
>even 1000 years ago) on the same footing as treatments developed in the last
>couple of hundred years is to deny the very idea of learning." is about the
>most ignorat thing i've ever heard. for your information, we still use a lot of
>ancient healing practices in "modern" medicine, and a lot of the premiliminary
>research and ideas for new medicines comes from research of old and folk
>traditions. get a clue.

I've already got one, thanks.  Sell you one for a ruble if you want.

The reason I favour modern medical treatments over ancestral ones is
that they tend to be based much more on an understanding of the
mechanisms of both disease and the human organism.  In other words,
while ancient medicine could tell you what was happening, it could't
tell you why.

This state of affairs meant that the development of effective
treatments was purely empirical, and thus hit-and-miss.  There was no
way to extrapolate from a success or failure with one treatment
modality to a success or failure with another.  In addition, the lack
of scientific method meant that the only measure of effectiveness was
the anecdote.  This of course opens the door wide for our old friend
the placebo effect.

I'm not denying the effectiveness of some treatments that have been
used since time immemorial.  Products like ginseng, treatments like
acupuncture - they have been proven effective for some things.
However, if one ignores the rigours of testing and statistical result
validation, there is a temptation to say  of a particular treatment:
"Well, I saw it work for *this*, therefore it must work for *that*",
when if fact it doesn't.

The reason I object to naturopathic treatments such as those I gently
derided in the original message is that there is *no* proof stronger
than anecdote  that they work.  If I'm going to spend my money and
place my health on the line, I want there to be some evidence that my
faith will turn out to be more than carefully fostered self-delusion.

Paul



Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

 Just because you are losing your hair now does not mean it won't grow
back.  Sometimes "old" hair being replaced does a fast dissappearing act
before the new growth starts again.
Take care,
Warmly,
Dr. Van Beveren

Quote:

> Dr. Van Beveren,

> Thank you for ALL the information, which I very much appreciate.  My
> problem is a genetically-inspired pattern baldness I suppose, but it
> seems to have accelerated significantly since I began taking various
> vitamin supplements.  I saw a reference elsewhere to vitamin A as a
> problem and wanted some information from a reliable source.

> Your reply was one of those delightful (if rare) instances where one
> gets much more than one expects.

Thanks again.--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A. Van Beveren, Ph.D., CNC 609-924-7337   |Au-d.l.r.u?
Nutritional Biochemist and Physiologist   |

========================================================


Wed, 15 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Vitamin A, Beta Carotene cause hair loss?

This appears to be a cut and paste from IBIS software. It would be appropriate
to cite it if this is so.

Will Morris

Quote:
>what causes yours (or someone you know) and their situation.  Here are
>some general suggestions that have helped a lot of people without
>permanent side effects:therapeutic foods: foods that tonify the Kidney,
>Qi and Xue ({*filter*}) tonifying foods
> foods rich in Silicon: alfalfa, comfrey, young horse tail, nettles,
>onions, kelp (Airola, p. 49)
> whole grains, seeds, nuts, oats, buckwheat, barley, sesame seeds, rye,
>millet, rice, goat milk as yogurt or kefir, sunflower seeds, pumpkin
>seeds, almonds, brewer's yeast, wheat germ (Airola, p. 49)

>fresh juices:
> steep oat straw tea ten minutes then add one tbsp. cherry concentrate
>(Jensen)
> nettles, spinach, carrot, red beet, alfalfa with a little onion juice
>(Airola, p. 50)

>specific remedies:
> peel fresh ginger, dip into brandy and rub all over the scalp, b.i.d.
>({*filter*}and Bloomfield, p. 136)
> sting balding area with fresh stinging nettles (Shefi)
>d apply to scalp, cover and leave it on overnight, every night for 2
>weeks (Shefi)
> mix 3 oz. cayenne pepper with 1/5 Romanoff Vodka or pure {*filter*}.
>Tincture 2 weeks shaking bottle every day, then strain through cheese
>cloth. Rub small amount into scalp twice a day. Keep away from eyes!
>(Airola, p. 51)

>avoid:
> salt, sugar, {*filter*} (Airola, p. 49)

>Dr. Van Beveren
>--
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>A. Van Beveren, Ph.D., CNC 60



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