Sorry, I don't have a Medline abstract or other such reference. I only
have a little story to report from a Japanese TV program -- not very
scientific, but it interested me nonetheless.

The story is about a group of {*filter*}agers in Okinawa who had their bone
density measured and then were asked about their diet. According to
the report, most of the kids had excellent bone density, whereas one
boy had a very poor result. The good kids all ate mainly rice and
fish. The bad kid didn't eat much rice or fish, but liked yakiniku,
which is beef (or sometimes pork) either grilled or cooked on a teppan
plate. All the kids were active and got plenty of exercise.

Obviously there are a lot more details that we weren't told, making
this one easy to just write off. Except that the "good" kids -- the
ones with the high bone density -- eat very much like my Japanese
wife, who has never liked red meat and who has incredibly good bone
density, comparable to someone half her age. They also eat a diet that
is typical of Japan, traditionally, and which has helped give this
country the world's best longevity record. The bad kid ate more like
they do in Korea, where longevity is far below that in Japan.

By itself this story seems to offer little useful information. It
does, however, mesh with other observations over the years. Fish and
rice is a typical core diet in much of Asia. It would be interesting
to carry out similar studies across a larger population from different
countries, and see if any consistent patterns can be found.
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Quite a bit, though some types of fish more than others. We usually go
to fish markets that sell only non-farmed fish, and other markets at
least mark which fish are farmed and which are not. I'd say more than
half the fish in supermarkets is farmed.

If Alf and other posters are correct, the fish caught in the open seas
is healthier. Not only that, but fish farming is actually turning out
to be a bad idea environmentally, since it is depleting some of the
smaller varieties of fish by overcatching them for use as feed. And
shrimp farming in places like Thailand is fast wiping out mangroves.

Of course, the cattle raising industry through overgrazing, etc. has
done even more damage to the earth over the years.

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Thanks for the information, John.  Unfortunately where I live, farmed fish is
much much cheaper and the cost of the real thing is too high to even consider
for our family.  Canned salmon is $1.69 a can but some sells for $5.00 a can
and I assume it is fished.  At one market, the fished salmon is 16 dollars
per pound.  I buy canned mackerel which is only 89 cents a can, cheaper than
albacore tuna and I assume it is fished but I have no way of knowing.  I once
called as many tuna packers as I could contact trying to find canned salmon
that was fished and they told me of only one brand. Dolores

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Before you buy.

I don't know about rice, but fish has bones in it.  With small, or well
cooked fish you can eat the bones.

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Rice does not have bones ;)

It's possible it would contain less Hg and other contaminants in the ocean.
I don't know where farmed fish are raised, but i've heard in ponds, and
that's likely to have a lot of snowmelt feeding it and perhaps a cleaner
environment overall even if the w3's are not there. But there may be a lot
more w3's in the farmed "real" fish than the depleted wild fish.

regards.

Well, Quentin, my point was, if we eat all the fish, then the argument
that we should eat fish becomes academic.

The WHO has a web page with cooking.net">food production across the world.

regards.

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:43:13 +1200, Quentin Grady

Very little, if any. But they import farmed fish. Eg. from Norway and
several other countries.

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 On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 20:04:13 -0500, jwwright

G'day G'day JW,

 I reckon you have a good point that is often overlooked by people who
advocate certain courses of action.

 What would happen if everyone took their advice?

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