Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome? 
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 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

   An elderly woman is looking for solutions to her "restless leg" syndrome
   which is apparently severe enough to cause chronic insomnia.  She would
   prefer a "natural" solution, but will take any recommendation at this
   point.

   Thanks in advance for any suggestions; posting or e-mail is fine.

   PLEASE NOTE: I have cross-posted for convenience, but any replies to
                the net should limit newsgroups to those which apply.

                Thanks.

-Rich Young

(The view expressed herein may not reflect that of Eastman Kodak Company, Inc.)



Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:00:25 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

Quote:
>...An elderly woman is looking for solutions to her "restless leg" syndrome
>  which is apparently severe enough to cause chronic insomnia.  She would
> prefer a "natural" solution, but will take any recommendation at this
> point..."

In the article "The "restless legs" syndrome" by Ronald Joffe publicated in The
medical Journal of Australia Vol 154 April15, 1991, there is written the
following;
"...The treatment of the restless legs syndrome is often unsatisfactory. Many
{*filter*} have been tried, most often without success. Benzodiazepines have been
advocated as the treatment of choise by some, and diazepam (up to 20 mg) and
clonazepam (0.05 mg) given before bed have been suggested. Iron therapy has been
used both in patients with demostrable iron deficiency and inthose whitout.
Folate supplements have also been advocated, and beta-blockers have been tried
with varying success. Levodopa and bromocriptine are said to produce striking
responses in certain patients, and recently reports have suggested that
methadone, codeine and propoxyphene may relive some of the distressing features.
Other medications, including anticonvulsants, quinine and anti-cholinergics, the
use of {*filter*}s, avoidance of caffeine and cessation of smoking have all been
advocated, but again with limited success."

"natural" could then be to try;
-Iron supplemention (it could be that the restless feeling is comming from a
local oxygen deficiency).
-Folate supplemention.
-{*filter*} therapy.
-Caffeine avoidance.
-Cessation of smoking.

I have furthermore read that it could maybe be of benefit to;
- supplement L-Tryptophan (1-2 g by bedtime).
- lower the foot-end of the beed during sleep.

/Leif Hedegard


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Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:14:43 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?
I have had "restless leg" syndrome many times, which was triggered
by eating foods I was allergic to or taking Vit . E. The best symptomatic
treatment I found was recommended by Adel Davis - Folic Acid - I
usually take between 6 and 10, .8mg tablets, generally my knees are
fine and I am back to sleep in 20 to 30 minutes.  I have pretty much
eliminated the problem through a comprehensive nutritional program,
if you would like more info about that please e-mail me directly.


Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:20:55 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

Quote:

>>      An elderly woman is looking for solutions to her "restless leg" syndrome
>>      which is apparently severe enough to cause chronic insomnia.  She would
>>      prefer a "natural" solution, but will take any recommendation at this
>>      point.

>>      Thanks in advance for any suggestions; posting or e-mail is fine.

>>      PLEASE NOTE: I have cross-posted for convenience, but any replies to
>>                   the net should limit newsgroups to those which apply.

>>                   Thanks.

>>   -Rich Young

        I have found that vitamin E is very helpful for restless legs.

        Also calcium and magnesium can be relaxing but not as specific
to restless legs as Vitamin E.  

        Wendy
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        ...Wendy



Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:25:24 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?


Quote:
>   An elderly woman is looking for solutions to her "restless leg" syndrome
>   which is apparently severe enough to cause chronic insomnia.  She would
>   prefer a "natural" solution, but will take any recommendation at this
>   point.

>   Thanks in advance for any suggestions; posting or e-mail is fine.

Paraphrasing from Medical Advances by Lawrence Galton (MD?), 1977, Crown
Publishers:

Dr. Samuel Ayres, Jr., Emeritus Professor of Medicine at UCLA, has reported
on the value of vitamin E in restless legs.  Of 9 patients with restless
legs of long duration, including 2 of his office employees, complete control
was obtained in 7, 75% in 1 & 50% control in 1.  Dr. Ayres prescribes
vitamin E--in the form od d-alpha-tocopherol acetate or succinate--in doses
of 400 IU from 1-4 times daily before meals.  Patients with hypertension or
damaged hearts, or diabetics on insulin, he reports, should be started on
much smaller doses.  Inorganic iron should be avoided because it combines
with & inactivates vitamin E.  Frequent laxatives & mineral oil are also to
be avoided...
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Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:20:17 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?
I'm a little curious about this term, "restless leg".  One or two nights
a year I get a sensation in an ankle, one that is difficult to describe --
basically that I really, really need to stretch the ankle as hard
as I can.  I flex the foot as far as it will go, and hold it for a while,
but of course this does no more good than would trying to soothe a referred
pain or scratch a referred itch.  The sensation persists.  It's really
no more than mildly annoying, and it is infrequent, but I've never heard
anyone else mention anything similar.  Is "restless leg" similar to this?
Does it sound familiar to anyone else?
--
cary kittrell

                       I can't define geography, but I know it when I see it



Mon, 28 Oct 1996 01:18:54 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?
Barbara,

I'm 41 years old and I've had restless leg syndrome since I was very young.
It is most distressing, and sometimes it will also move into my arms.  All I
can do is flail around until I finally go to sleep which can be as long as 2
or 3 hours or not at all!  My father also suffers from the same thing.  My
theory has always been that it is some kind of circulatory problem, perhaps
akin to intermittent claudication or something.  At any rate, the only help
I have ever found for it is to get up and run the bath tub full of VERY hot
water. . . as hot as you can possibly stand.  Then immerse your legs in the
water and begin deep massage starting at the ankles and moving up the calves
and into the things.  Repeat this massage 2-3 times.  Keep running the hot
water if the water starts to cool off.  I usually soak and massage for about
15 minutes.  Then get up and dry off and return to bed.  You'll probably be
hot all over, but you should sleep like a baby.  There is also an over the
counter product now available called (I believe, but I could be wrong) Qvel
or something like that, which is specifically for leg pain and restless legs.
Hope this helps
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Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:22:31 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

Quote:

>   An elderly woman is looking for solutions to her "restless leg" syndrome
>   which is apparently severe enough to cause chronic insomnia.  She would
>   prefer a "natural" solution, but will take any recommendation at this
>   point.

>   Thanks in advance for any suggestions; posting or e-mail is fine.

>   PLEASE NOTE: I have cross-posted for convenience, but any replies to
>            the net should limit newsgroups to those which apply.

>            Thanks.

>-Rich Young

>(The view expressed herein may not reflect that of Eastman Kodak Company, Inc.)

I have information I can send you via snail-mail about a particular blend of a
type of bioflavonoid called proanthocyanidins that has recently been patented
in the United States and is available as a cooking.net">food supplement.  If you'll E-mail
me your address or the elderly woman's address, I'll be happy to send detailed
information.

A book I have about the product says:
     "The benefits of proanthocyanidins, demonstrated in many studies and
decades of clinical experience, include the following:
      improves skin smoothness and elasticity,
      strengthens capillaries, arteries and veins,
      improves circulation and enhances cell vitality,
      reduces capillary fragility and improves resistance to bruising and
          strokes,
      reduces risk of phlebitis,
      reduces varicose veins,
      reduces edema and swelling of the legs,
      helps restless-leg syndrome,
      reduces diabetic retinopathy,
      improves visual acuity,
      helps improve sluggish memory,
      reduces the effects of stress,
      improves joint flexibility, and
      fights inflammation in arthritis and sport injuries."

I look forward to hearing from you.

Joe Matthew



Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:35:00 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

|> Barbara,
|>
|> I'm 41 years old and I've had restless leg syndrome since I was very young.
|> It is most distressing, and sometimes it will also move into my arms.  All I
|> can do is flail around until I finally go to sleep which can be as long as 2
|> or 3 hours or not at all!  My father also suffers from the same thing.  My
|> theory has always been that it is some kind of circulatory problem, perhaps
|> akin to intermittent claudication or something.  At any rate, the only help
|> I have ever found for it is to get up and run the bath tub full of VERY hot
|> water. . . as hot as you can possibly stand.  Then immerse your legs in the
|> water and begin deep massage starting at the ankles and moving up the calves
|> and into the things.  Repeat this massage 2-3 times.  Keep running the hot
|> water if the water starts to cool off.  I usually soak and massage for about
|> 15 minutes.  Then get up and dry off and return to bed.  You'll probably be
|> hot all over, but you should sleep like a baby.  There is also an over the
|> counter product now available called (I believe, but I could be wrong) Qvel
|> or something like that, which is specifically for leg pain and restless legs.
|> Hope this helps

Thanks for that advice...but my problem has never driven me
nuts or really kept me awake for too long.  I just feel it
all the time, on a low grade level.

If it is circulation, I think folic acid is supposed to
help...maybe the original poster could advise her friend to
consider a folic acid supplement...?

Barbara

Barbara White                   Carnegie Mellon University



Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:39:24 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?
Quote:


>|> Barbara,
>|>
>|> I'm 41 years old and I've had restless leg syndrome since I was very young.
>|> It is most distressing, and sometimes it will also move into my arms.  All I
>|> can do is flail around until I finally go to sleep which can be as long as 2
>|> or 3 hours or not at all!  My father also suffers from the same thing.  My
>|> theory has always been that it is some kind of circulatory problem, perhaps
>|> akin to intermittent claudication or something.  At any rate, the only help
>|> I have ever found for it is to get up and run the bath tub full of VERY hot
>|> water. . . as hot as you can possibly stand.  Then immerse your legs in the
>|> water and begin deep massage starting at the ankles and moving up the calves
>|> and into the things.  Repeat this massage 2-3 times.  Keep running the hot
>|> water if the water starts to cool off.  I usually soak and massage for about
>|> 15 minutes.  Then get up and dry off and return to bed.  You'll probably be
>|> hot all over, but you should sleep like a baby.  There is also an over the
>|> counter product now available called (I believe, but I could be wrong) Qvel
>|> or something like that, which is specifically for leg pain and restless legs.
>|> Hope this helps

>Thanks for that advice...but my problem has never driven me
>nuts or really kept me awake for too long.  I just feel it
>all the time, on a low grade level.

>If it is circulation, I think folic acid is supposed to
>help...maybe the original poster could advise her friend to
>consider a folic acid supplement...?

>Barbara

I know this may sound strange, but when I find myself unable to sleep
because of the need to keep moving my legs, I ask my wife (or do it
myself) to give me a fairly strong punch on the back of my legs, at the
bottom of the calf muscle. Works almost every time.


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>Barbara White                       Carnegie Mellon University




Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:27:44 GMT
 Suggestions for "restless leg" syndrome?

Quote:

>I know this may sound strange, but when I find myself unable to sleep
>because of the need to keep moving my legs, I ask my wife (or do it
>myself) to give me a fairly strong punch on the back of my legs, at the
>bottom of the calf muscle. Works almost every time.

Hmmmm. Sounds sort of like the old days when you would give the tv or radio
a good whack when they went on the fritz. Are you a child of the 60s? Do you
remember vacuum tubes?

I have this restless leg syndrome once in a great while. I've been running
for 4+ years now, and I'm not sure but if it isn't related. Haven't had it
in many months, but it is very frustrating to experience.

I'm not clear about the "bottom of the calf muscle". Would that be on the
Achilles Tendon then, or higher? And how did you arrive at this "cure"?

Is this a scientific treatment? Does your wife succuss her{*filter*}before she
strikes your leg? Does the FDA approve? Heck if it works, I'll try it!

Mark Sandrock
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Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:02:20 GMT
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