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 Lecithin / cognitive functions MMW Fortschr Med. 2004 Dec 9;146:99-106. Related Articles, Links [Improvement in quality of life in the elderly. Results of a
placebo-controlled study on the efficacy and tolerability of lecithin
fluid in patients with impaired cognitive functions]
[Article in German]
Volz HP, Hehnke U, Hauke W.
Krankenhaus fur Psychiatrie, Psychotherapie und Psychosomatische
Medizin, Schloss Werneck.
Lecithin, a precursor of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, has a
positive effect on brain and memory functions. In a prospective,
randomized, double-blind study, the effect of buerlecithin fluid (BLF)
was investigated in comparison with placebo in patients with mild
cognitive disorders. A total of 96 ambulatory patients (> 55 years)
were admitted to the study. Treatment duration was 84 days. In both
treatment groups, a clear improvement in all the cognitive parameters
tested was seen. The main target measure, the overall Sandoz Clinical
Assessment Geriatric (SCAG) score improved by 18.7 (test substance) and
16.4 (placebo) points (p = 0.1620). A statistically relevant
improvement of the secondary target parameter, response in the SCAG
score, was achieved with BLF (85.4%) in comparison with placebo (62.5%)
(p = 0.018). Furthermore, BLF demonstrated significant superiority in a
number of the other target measures. The study also confirmed the very
good tolerability of BLF.
Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 15662899 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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| Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:44:05 GMT |
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Michae
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Lecithin / cognitive functions How interesting. Can you clarify the significance and potential application of these results,
please?.
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> MMW Fortschr Med. 2004 Dec 9;146:99-106. Related Articles, Links > [Improvement in quality of life in the elderly. Results of a
> placebo-controlled study on the efficacy and tolerability of lecithin
> fluid in patients with impaired cognitive functions]
> [Article in German]
> Volz HP, Hehnke U, Hauke W.
> Krankenhaus fur Psychiatrie, Psychotherapie und Psychosomatische
> Medizin, Schloss Werneck.
> Lecithin, a precursor of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, has a
> positive effect on brain and memory functions. In a prospective,
> randomized, double-blind study, the effect of buerlecithin fluid (BLF)
> was investigated in comparison with placebo in patients with mild
> cognitive disorders. A total of 96 ambulatory patients (> 55 years)
> were admitted to the study. Treatment duration was 84 days. In both
> treatment groups, a clear improvement in all the cognitive parameters
> tested was seen. The main target measure, the overall Sandoz Clinical
> Assessment Geriatric (SCAG) score improved by 18.7 (test substance)
> and
> 16.4 (placebo) points (p = 0.1620). A statistically relevant
> improvement of the secondary target parameter, response in the SCAG
> score, was achieved with BLF (85.4%) in comparison with placebo
> (62.5%) (p = 0.018). Furthermore, BLF demonstrated significant
> superiority in a
> number of the other target measures. The study also confirmed the very
> good tolerability of BLF.
> Publication Types:
> Clinical Trial
> Randomized Controlled Trial
> PMID: 15662899 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:55:43 GMT |
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Laur
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Lecithin / cognitive functions I think he is getting off the iron overload kick and now looking into us all being elderly and having memory issues.. <rolling eyes> I'm elderly though and have memory issues so I may have read that somewhere else.. I ferget........ --
Laura
Quote: > How interesting. > Can you clarify the significance and potential application of these
> results, please?.
>> MMW Fortschr Med. 2004 Dec 9;146:99-106. Related Articles, Links
>> [Improvement in quality of life in the elderly. Results of a
>> placebo-controlled study on the efficacy and tolerability of
>> lecithin
>> fluid in patients with impaired cognitive functions]
>> [Article in German]
>> Volz HP, Hehnke U, Hauke W.
>> Krankenhaus fur Psychiatrie, Psychotherapie und Psychosomatische
>> Medizin, Schloss Werneck.
>> Lecithin, a precursor of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, has a
>> positive effect on brain and memory functions. In a prospective,
>> randomized, double-blind study, the effect of buerlecithin fluid
>> (BLF)
>> was investigated in comparison with placebo in patients with mild
>> cognitive disorders. A total of 96 ambulatory patients (> 55 years)
>> were admitted to the study. Treatment duration was 84 days. In both
>> treatment groups, a clear improvement in all the cognitive
>> parameters
>> tested was seen. The main target measure, the overall Sandoz
>> Clinical
>> Assessment Geriatric (SCAG) score improved by 18.7 (test substance)
>> and
>> 16.4 (placebo) points (p = 0.1620). A statistically relevant
>> improvement of the secondary target parameter, response in the SCAG
>> score, was achieved with BLF (85.4%) in comparison with placebo
>> (62.5%) (p = 0.018). Furthermore, BLF demonstrated significant
>> superiority in a
>> number of the other target measures. The study also confirmed the
>> very
>> good tolerability of BLF.
>> Publication Types:
>> Clinical Trial
>> Randomized Controlled Trial
>> PMID: 15662899 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Who loves ya.
>> Tom
>> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>> Man Is A Herbivore!
>> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
>> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:46:40 GMT |
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ironjust..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions http://tinyurl.com/7wt5v We KNOW .. you .. REALLY aren't too interested ..
Don't we ..
Evidenced BY your actions / attacks .. over .. the years ..
Eh ..
That is called .. 'evidence based' ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:51:38 GMT |
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ironjust..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions http://tinyurl.com/7wt5v We KNOW .. you .. REALLY aren't too interested ..
Don't we ..
Evidenced BY your actions / attacks .. over .. the years ..
Eh ..
That is called .. 'evidence based' ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:52:13 GMT |
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Michae
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Oh, but I *am* interested, Tom. It would be good of you to forget about *me*, and concentrate instead on explaining the significance of the data you've presented what they'd mean if applied in the real world instead of just in the lab. The trouble is that whenever (as is happening now) you're asked to explain
your stuff, you change the subject.
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> http://tinyurl.com/7wt5v > We KNOW .. you .. REALLY aren't too interested ..
> Don't we ..
> Evidenced BY your actions / attacks .. over .. the years ..
> Eh ..
> That is called .. 'evidence based' ..
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:34:25 GMT |
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ironjust..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Read the links .. The links provide PLENTY of explanation ..
If it isn't ENOUGH .. of .. an 'explanation' .. well then you are S fkg
OL ..
Heh ., heh ..
Maybe your .. pal .. the 'microbiologist' .. would care to dumbitdown
.. for the .. group ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:09:51 GMT |
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Michae
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Quote:
> Read the links .. > The links provide PLENTY of explanation ..
> If it isn't ENOUGH .. of .. an 'explanation' .. well then you are S
> fkg OL ..
I can read somebody else's abstracts anytime I like, Tom. I want to see *your* explanation of the data and their meaning. Quote: > Heh ., heh .. > Maybe your .. pal .. the 'microbiologist' .. would care to dumbitdown
> .. for the .. group ..
My pal the microbiologist?
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:04:14 GMT |
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ma..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Tom does a search each day using a few search terms of iron, antioxidants, etc.; or so he has confessed in his writings. If he thinks the results don't support his iron causes all disease thesis he tosses it, otherwise he blindly posts it. Sometimes he messes up and some research showing his thesis flawed gets through. He generally doesn't understand what the post says, doesn't understand the vocabulary it uses, and doesn't know how the conclusions were derived or how it relates to anyother body of research in general. He posts if the search terms and some disorder shows up together in one place. He then cherry picks some phrase to support his thesis, but usually doesn't explain how it does. Often when the full article is read it is seen that the cherry picking and editing cuts out other parts that contridict what he wants us to see. That is the extent and full methodology of his "research" and it is why he cann't/willn't discuss or explain the post; he doesn't have the ability on many levels to do so and wants to conceal that reality. When someone asks a serious question of his post it is rare to get past
even one response without him attacking the person as the best he can
muster in answer. I have posted research in specific detail which
dismantels each and every part of his thesis and the theology and the
science on which he constructed it. Does it make a difference, no,
because the problem is not one science or logic or theology can address.
The problem resides with him and is a particular problem which explains
all but not otherwise relevant or useful to discuss. That is why I have
ceased responding to the content of his posts and his personal attacks as
a kind of spiritual growth on my behalf, Lord have mercy on me.
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:58:14 GMT |
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ironjust..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Heh .. heh .. How's the .. diabetes ..
Heh .. heh ..
What a fkg .. maroon ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.-com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/iron-justice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/iron-justice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:04:06 GMT |
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ironjust..
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Quote: >>I can read somebody else's abstracts anytime I like, Tom. I want to
see *your* explanation of the data and their meaning. << Now WHY .. would THAT .. be .. ?
You 'admire' my intelligence ..?
You 'admire' .. my insight .. ?
Why .. ?
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.-com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://pages.ivillage.com/iron-justice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://pages.ivillage.com/iron-justice/deadpeoplewalking
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:48:02 GMT |
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Kare
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Sounds similar to the behavior my MIL exhibited pre-diagnosis. Inappropriate responses, disjointed responses that make no sense, seeing and responding to attacks that aren't there -- her problem was dementia. Hmmm...
----snip----
Quote: > When someone asks a serious question of his post it is rare to get past
> even one response without him attacking the person as the best he can
> muster in answer.
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:12:31 GMT |
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jils
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Lecithin / cognitive functions
> What a fkg .. maroon ..
a maroon? a maroon what?
keep taking the lecithin tommy. you're the only person here that
qualifies for the description of MORON.
dictionary.com:
moron n.
1. A stupid person; a dolt.
2. Psychology. A person of mild mental retardation having a mental
age of from 7 to 12 years
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:44:06 GMT |
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bobby
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Lecithin / cognitive functions dear tom/doe/shithead,,, why have you not been cured yet by your babbling tirades of medicine??
you claim but did it cure you??
and again for the 100 time,, when you perform your {*filter*}letting please tell
us where you slice yourself open,, to let out the {*filter*},,,
you refuse to discuss where we should cut ourselves,,, why??
is it that you dont perform this to yourself as you claim we all should to
ourselves????
please enlighten us as to where one must slice and dice!!????????????????
for this {*filter*}letting ceremony.
bobbyD
Quote: > http://www.***.com/ > We KNOW .. you .. REALLY aren't too interested ..
> Don't we ..
> Evidenced BY your actions / attacks .. over .. the years ..
> Eh ..
> That is called .. 'evidence based' ..
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://www.***.com/
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://www.***.com/
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://www.***.com/
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| Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:01:07 GMT |
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Michae
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Lecithin / cognitive functions Quote:
>>> I can read somebody else's abstracts anytime I like, Tom. I want >>> to > see > *your* explanation of the data and their meaning. << > Now WHY .. would THAT .. be .. ?
> You 'admire' my intelligence ..?
> You 'admire' .. my insight .. ?
> Why .. ?
That's precisely the question I'd like to answer, myself: "Why?" I figure by reading your own words explaining what is so important about all
these factoids you're always shoving in everyone's faces, I could understand
*why* it is that you're willing to - sometimes it even seems like you're
*trying* to - alienate yourself from all of humanity by doing so.
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