Tick Bite & Rash Question 
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 Tick Bite & Rash Question

Note from Lora:  I want to share this with the whole wide world because
there are still so many brochures (including the one from the CDC which
is currently distributed by our state of Wisconsin), which mention only
the "classic" bulls's-eye EM.

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Subject: RE: EM rash as diagnostic
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:47:20 -0400
Hello Lora Mermin:
I shared your question with Dr. David Dennis, CDC's Lyme disease expert,
and
he indicated that you are correct, not all Lyme disease rashes are the
characteristic bull's eye rash. There have been good publications
describing
the variations in localized erythema migrans (EM).  As well, about 15%
of
patients with Lyme disease rash present with multiple EM, that may be
quite
variable in character and probably most do not show the typical bull's
eye
appearance.

Hope this helps.

James Herrington, MPH, CHES, PhD (candidate)
Public Health Education Specialist
Office of the Director
Division of Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases
Centers for Disease Control & Prevention
P.O. Box 2087
Fort Collins, CO 80522


tel 970-221-6429
fax 970-221-6476
http://www.***.com/

Quote:
> -----Original Message-----

> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 8:06 AM

> Subject: EM rash as diagnostic

> Thank you for your continuing good work.  I would like to enter a plea
> that other types of rash be mentioned in addition to the classic
bull's
> eye.  In my own case, after a known tick-bite and 9 days of gross
> fatigue, malaise, and abnormal sweating, a hives-like rash broke out
all
> over my back.  I showed it to a doctor in residence at local hospital,
> and asked if it were a "Lyme rash."  "Absolutely not, " he replied.
He
> assured me that he had seen real Lyme rashes on his rounds at the
> teaching hospital.  So I let the rash go away, and when my regular
> doctor got back to town from vacation, I told him the story and also
> that I had been told that the {*filter*} test was "very expensive."  "We'll
> take a sed rate," he exclaimed, "That will show up any infection."
> Well, the sed rate showed nothing.  The early ills went away.  But 10
> months after the bit, I developed severe arthritis, and at one point
> could hardly hold pen in hand to sign my name.  This responded to Doxy
> treatment, but various long-term effects lingered for 2-3 years.
>     Why not say that rash may resemble bruise, particularly on dark
> skin, may be jagged line, may look like hives or poison ivy rash?
best,
> Lora Mermin, editor and publisher of Lyme Disease 1991.



Sat, 19 Jan 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Tick Bite & Rash Question

Quote:

> Note from Lora:  I want to share this with the whole wide world because
> there are still so many brochures (including the one from the CDC which
> is currently distributed by our state of Wisconsin), which mention only
> the "classic" bulls's-eye EM.

> [Forwarded message]


> Subject: RE: EM rash as diagnostic
> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:47:20 -0400
> Hello Lora Mermin:
> I shared your question with Dr. David Dennis, CDC's Lyme disease expert,
> and
> he indicated that you are correct, not all Lyme disease rashes are the
> characteristic bull's eye rash. There have been good publications
> describing
> the variations in localized erythema migrans (EM).  As well, about 15%
> of
> patients with Lyme disease rash present with multiple EM, that may be
> quite
> variable in character and probably most do not show the typical bull's
> eye
> appearance.

> Hope this helps.

> James Herrington, MPH, CHES, PhD (candidate)
> Public Health Education Specialist
> Office of the Director
> Division of Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases
> Centers for Disease Control & Prevention
> P.O. Box 2087
> Fort Collins, CO 80522


> tel 970-221-6429
> fax 970-221-6476
> http://www.***.com/
> > -----Original Message-----

> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 8:06 AM

> > Subject: EM rash as diagnostic

> > Thank you for your continuing good work.  I would like to enter a plea

> > that other types of rash be mentioned in addition to the classic
> bull's
> > eye.  In my own case, after a known tick-bite and 9 days of gross
> > fatigue, malaise, and abnormal sweating, a hives-like rash broke out
> all
> > over my back.  I showed it to a doctor in residence at local hospital,

> > and asked if it were a "Lyme rash."  "Absolutely not, " he replied.
> He
> > assured me that he had seen real Lyme rashes on his rounds at the
> > teaching hospital.  So I let the rash go away, and when my regular
> > doctor got back to town from vacation, I told him the story and also
> > that I had been told that the {*filter*} test was "very expensive."  "We'll

> > take a sed rate," he exclaimed, "That will show up any infection."
> > Well, the sed rate showed nothing.  The early ills went away.  But 10
> > months after the bit, I developed severe arthritis, and at one point
> > could hardly hold pen in hand to sign my name.  This responded to Doxy

> > treatment, but various long-term effects lingered for 2-3 years.
> >     Why not say that rash may resemble bruise, particularly on dark
> > skin, may be jagged line, may look like hives or poison ivy rash?
> best,
> > Lora Mermin, editor and publisher of Lyme Disease 1991.

Well done, Lora! Thanks from millions of us.

                         Douglas



Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 Tick Bite & Rash Question
I didn't really have the classic bull's eye, but many hot spots of pink
egg-size circles.  I could almost feel them forming over the last three weeks.
Had one originally, then developed 2 or 3 a day.  The earliest ones spread out
and got fainter, they got up to 6 inches across, as new ones continued to form.
 Probably had 10-15 over time.  All disappeared with 2 days of starting
Doxycycline.


Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:00:00 GMT
 
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