Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes 
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 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes

HI All.. Im still reeling from the previous post about Geri Fosseens death...
but feel its important to post this.

Todays NYTimes Science Section has a story on Alan Steere, "The Father of Lyme
Disease." Its written by David France and is a somewhat balanced piece. It
omits or misrepresents three important points.

1) Steere did not discover this disease. It was discovered in the later 1800s.

2) It makes no mention of Willy Burgdorfer.

3) It mentions the NIH study on Chronic Lyme but does not mention that Steeres
lab is being used for the diagnostic part of the study.

The last paragraph addresses Steere's conviction that long term antibiotic
treatment is unwarranted. And thanks to his influence in the medical field,
people like Geri Fosseen are dying.

It is a tragedy.



Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Dear Martha,

Very good points.

Why not put these misrepresentations is letter form and send it to The New York
Times ?

Maybe if a few of us do that one of us will get our letter printed.

Martha A.



Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
MAybe we could change the title of the article to : "Steere, the father of
chronic lyme" as he is probably responsible for more cases of chronic lyme than
any other person!

he could also be called the grandfather of lyme...old and set in his ways!



Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Everybody who has feelings about this article should take the time to respond.
I wonder what connection Steere has to this Paper.  


Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
I dont know if Steere has connections to this paper.. but if he did , they did
not work.. this is a fairand good piece and is not the usual PR fluff that
other papers have printed.... I dont think he comes off sounding so great...
committed to his beliefs yets, but those beliefs are questioned in the article.


Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
The History of Lyme Disease According to Someone:  It is a New Arthritis, Viral, in
Children, in a Few Joints, in a Small Town(s), responds to steroids and aspirin,
doesn't respond any better to antibiotics, well actually it does involve some
{*filter*}s, get to a few more joints, uh does go to some other organs like heart and
brain, but these are minor since the heart gets better in a short time anyway, so
don't even use antibiotics for theheart, and yes the cognitive loss does occur in
those few with neurological lyme but it is minor ( only lasts 18 months- try having
a sore throat for 18 months and calling it minor- but this is just a brain) and
gets better anyway without antibiotics.  Oh there are a few other organs involved
like bladder, eyes, bowels, esophagus, uterus, placentas, sinuses, lymph nodes,
respiratory system, spleens, livers, brain stem, peripheral nerves, spinal cord,
kidneys, muscles, endocrine organs, bone marrow, white {*filter*} cells, cranial nerves,
{*filter*} vessels, umbilical cords, fetuses etc etc but it is really a rheumatological
disease and best to be a coauthor of illnesses far beyond the realm of
rheumatology.  It didn't exist before discovery in 1977, is very different in N
America than Europe, is easily cured, and easily diagnosed by laboratory testing
with serology.  There must be five bands and there is no seronegative lyme.  It is
best to name a disease after a town so everyone knows what is being talked about.
The ELISA test determines who has the disease and who doesn't- if done in the right
lab.  A conference is held in 1994 and science is best decided by signature.  There
are no coinfections.  Borrelia doesn't exist in different forms.  Who ever heard of
a germ living intracellular.
No one gets better from a chronic persistent infection with chronic persistent
antibiotics.  Fibromyalgia is a specific disease.  Depression isn't ever an
infectious encephalopathy of long slow debilitation.  When doing a study to
determine the number of bands needed to detect borreliosis pick 100 normal controls
from chronic fatigue, multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, systemic lupus and
fibromyalgia.  Forget the monkey studies in the vaccine- they didn't act right
anyway.  Vector borne diseases to a warm vertebrate host are benign relationships
and not very complicated.  Don't read European medical literature- it wastes too
much time in basic sciences.  Never do a direct test when investigating an
infectious disease- these are the foundation of microbiology..  Disregard other
physicians who are basically thoughtless and need a leader.  Disregard history- it
points out human error.  Try steroids to see if patients with bacterial infections
get worse or better.  Antibiotics don't induce bacteria into other forms since
bacteria are so simple.  If one can't see a spirochetal form with silver stain, it
isn't there.  Stay in Boston so one doesn't need the vaccine.
Now that the disease is so well understood, step forward and accept your medal.
Quote:

> I dont know if Steere has connections to this paper.. but if he did , they did
> not work.. this is a fairand good piece and is not the usual PR fluff that
> other papers have printed.... I dont think he comes off sounding so great...
> committed to his beliefs yets, but those beliefs are questioned in the article.



Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Harold, you're a scream!
I liked the NYT article. It was well-balanced.
I thought you might like to know that Jean went to the recent appearance of
Dr Steere at UCSF where he discussed Lyme, and he emphasized "his opinion,"
and "his experience." As a rheumatologist and an academic, he obviously has
a limited experience, and I credit him with admitting as much. I remember
when he met Evan White at the congressional hearings lo these many years
ago, he was dumbstruck. He'd never seen a Lyme case like Evan (who had
hyperacusis, was in a wheelchair, and missed most of high school from neuro
lyme).
If people want to write to the NYT I think that would be a good idea,  and
you might like to send a copy to Dr Steere at New England Medical Center, PO
Box 406, 750 Washington St, Boston MA 02111.

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Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
LOL!!! That  pretty much covers it .. except you omitted that Mrs. Murray
conjectured that the  disease was coming from tick bites and that was initially
rejected as ridicuous!!! From there, Mrs. Murray speculated that it was
bacterial because antibiotics seemed to alleviate the symptoms but Steere was
adamant that it was viral...

Yup.. the Father of Lyme Disease.. what a joke!



Sun, 21 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
I love someone who can produce a good rant.
Yours was the creme de la creme, and I salute you!

Best, Lisa



Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
I think we should all write to the New York Times editorial "en masse".
This is the only way we are going to stop the onslaught on LD
patients. Iplan on doing it regardless.

IMHO, he is another who will soon claim that the vaccine "doesn't
clean your toilet bowl".

Enraged, I have recently been diagnosed w/ Babesia and HGE.

vp



Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Mrs. Murray conjectured that the disease was coming from tick bites and that
was initially rejected as ridicuous!!! From there, Mrs. Murray speculated
that it was bacterial because antibiotics seemed to alleviate the
symptoms but Steere was adamant that it was viral...

Yup.. the Father of Lyme Disease.. what a joke!

Response:
Maybe someone should suggest in their letter that instead of Steere as the
Father of Lyme, we should nominate Polly as the Mother of Lyme.
I'm working on one with a slightly different slant.

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Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Dear Harold/Patty,

I love your diatribe.Maybe you could send a copy to Dr. Steere.

Martha A.



Wed, 24 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Dear Phyllis,

Dr. Steere only "sees what he knows'. As a rheumatologist he only see/knows
swollen joints. Unfortunately he was crowned king of Lyme a long time ago and
has continued to spread the gospel according to Steere. His opinion /experience
go a long way in the medical community.

I wonder what will be presented in Munich next month.

Martha A.



Wed, 24 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes

 Dear Harold/Patty,

 I love your diatribe.Maybe you could send a copy to Dr. Steere.

 Martha A.

I thought the article was good.  Made him look
like a snake.  And speaking with forked tongue.  Won't
take the vaccine because he lives in Boston and not
living in an endemic area.  Dodged the draft by going into
epidemiology, one of the very few specialties that wouldn't
have been needed (aren't *we* lucky to be another casualty
of Vietnam) and said abx are not the best tmt for Lyme, yet
offered no alternative.  Duh.  
Like we don't treat infections with abx?  Oh.

"That's my opinion."

That's a paid for-opinion.
And his picture made him look really smug.
Arms folded and sneering.

Heh, heh.  Allen Sneere.  

I think the objective was to fill out the story
that his face told.  

If he only knew what they were going to say about him
I am sure he wouldn't have worn that expression.

Or, maybe not.  People with so much contempt
for mankind usually can {*filter*} what tbey see in
a mirror.

He would have made a better politician.
Or, maybe not....

Kathleen M.{*filter*}son



Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 Dr. ALan Steere in NY TIMes
Turning a Steere into Jackass isn't all that hard --especially when the Steere
does most of the work.

georgia



Sat, 27 Oct 2001 03:00:00 GMT
 
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