Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act 
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 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act

Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005 11:13 a.m. EST
Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has come out swinging
against
the Democratic-led filibuster that prevented a reauthorization vote on
the
USA Patriot Act.

In an op-ed column in the New York Times, Giuliani said the Senate
action
"represents a grave potential threat to the nation's security. ...
Americans
must use every legal and constitutional tool in their arsenal to fight
terrorism and protect their lives and liberties.

"The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, made clear that the old rules no longer

work. The terrorists who attacked us seek to kill innocent men, women
and
children of all races and creeds. They seek to destroy our liberties.
They
willingly kill themselves in their effort to bring death and suffering
to as
many innocents as they can, here in this country or anywhere in the
world
where freedom has a foothold."

Giuliani, who was the city's mayor during the 9/11 attacks and
aftermath,
continued:

"The central provisions of the Patriot Act allow law enforcement and
the
intelligence community to share information. This might seem
elementary, but
for years law enforcement had been stymied by a legal wall that
prevented
agencies from sharing information. For four years now, inter-agency
collaboration, made possible by the Patriot Act, has played an
important
role in preventing another day like Sept. 11. The act's provisions
helped
make possible the investigations in Lackawanna, N.Y., and Portland,
Ore., in
which 12 people were ultimately convicted for attempts to aid Al Qaeda
and
the Taliban.

"So what happened in Washington? The House voted on Wednesday to renew
the
act; it stalled in the Senate. If the Senate fails to approve the
extension,
the government will be forced to revert in many ways to our pre-Sept.
11
methods. Six{*filter*} provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire on
Dec. 31,
including the key information-sharing ones.

"It is simply false to claim, as some of its critics do, that this bill
does
not respond to concerns about civil liberties. The four-year extension
of
the Patriot Act, as passed by the House, would not only reauthorize the

expiring provisions - allowing our Joint Terrorism Task Force, National

Counterterrorism Center and Terrorist Screening Center to continue
their
work uninterrupted - it would also make a number of common-sense
clarifications and add dozens of additional civil liberties safeguards.

"Concerns have been raised about the so-called library records
provision;
the bill adds safeguards. The same is true for roving wiretaps, 'sneak
and
peek' searches and access to counsel and courts, as well as many others

concerns raised by groups like the American Library Association and the

American Civil Liberties Union.

"Given these improvements, there is simply no compelling argument for
going
backward in the fight against terrorism. Perhaps a reminder is in
order. The
bipartisan 9/11 commission described a vivid example of how the old
ways
hurt us. In the summer of 2001, an FBI agent investigating two
individuals
we now know were hijackers on Sept. 11 asked to share information with
another team of agents. This request was refused because of the wall.
The
agent's response was tragically prescient: 'Someday, someone will die -
and
wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more
effective.'

"How quickly we forget."

http://www.***.com/



Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:02:00 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act
Quote:

> Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005 11:13 a.m. EST
> Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act

> Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has come out swinging
> against
> the Democratic-led filibuster that prevented a reauthorization vote on
> the
> USA Patriot Act.

> In an op-ed column in the New York Times, Giuliani said the Senate
> action
> "represents a grave potential threat to the nation's security. ...
> Americans
> must use every legal and constitutional tool in their arsenal to fight
> terrorism and protect their lives and liberties.

> "The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, made clear that the old rules no longer

> work. The terrorists who attacked us seek to kill innocent men, women
> and
> children of all races and creeds. They seek to destroy our liberties.
> They
> willingly kill themselves in their effort to bring death and suffering
> to as
> many innocents as they can, here in this country or anywhere in the
> world
> where freedom has a foothold."

> Giuliani, who was the city's mayor during the 9/11 attacks and
> aftermath,
> continued:

> "The central provisions of the Patriot Act allow law enforcement and
> the
> intelligence community to share information. This might seem
> elementary, but
> for years law enforcement had been stymied by a legal wall that
> prevented
> agencies from sharing information. For four years now, inter-agency
> collaboration, made possible by the Patriot Act, has played an
> important
> role in preventing another day like Sept. 11. The act's provisions
> helped
> make possible the investigations in Lackawanna, N.Y., and Portland,
> Ore., in
> which 12 people were ultimately convicted for attempts to aid Al Qaeda
> and
> the Taliban.

> "So what happened in Washington? The House voted on Wednesday to renew
> the
> act; it stalled in the Senate. If the Senate fails to approve the
> extension,
> the government will be forced to revert in many ways to our pre-Sept.
> 11
> methods. Six{*filter*} provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire on
> Dec. 31,
> including the key information-sharing ones.

> "It is simply false to claim, as some of its critics do, that this bill
> does
> not respond to concerns about civil liberties. The four-year extension
> of
> the Patriot Act, as passed by the House, would not only reauthorize the

> expiring provisions - allowing our Joint Terrorism Task Force, National

> Counterterrorism Center and Terrorist Screening Center to continue
> their
> work uninterrupted - it would also make a number of common-sense
> clarifications and add dozens of additional civil liberties safeguards.

> "Concerns have been raised about the so-called library records
> provision;
> the bill adds safeguards. The same is true for roving wiretaps, 'sneak
> and
> peek' searches and access to counsel and courts, as well as many others

> concerns raised by groups like the American Library Association and the

> American Civil Liberties Union.

> "Given these improvements, there is simply no compelling argument for
> going
> backward in the fight against terrorism. Perhaps a reminder is in
> order. The
> bipartisan 9/11 commission described a vivid example of how the old
> ways
> hurt us. In the summer of 2001, an FBI agent investigating two
> individuals
> we now know were hijackers on Sept. 11 asked to share information with
> another team of agents. This request was refused because of the wall.
> The
> agent's response was tragically prescient: 'Someday, someone will die -
> and
> wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more
> effective.'

> "How quickly we forget."

> http://www.***.com/



Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:10:40 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act
Ignore....
Quote:


> > Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005 11:13 a.m. EST
> > Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act

> > Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has come out swinging
> > against
> > the Democratic-led filibuster that prevented a reauthorization vote on
> > the
> > USA Patriot Act.

> > In an op-ed column in the New York Times, Giuliani said the Senate
> > action
> > "represents a grave potential threat to the nation's security. ...
> > Americans
> > must use every legal and constitutional tool in their arsenal to fight
> > terrorism and protect their lives and liberties.

> > "The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, made clear that the old rules no longer

> > work. The terrorists who attacked us seek to kill innocent men, women
> > and
> > children of all races and creeds. They seek to destroy our liberties.
> > They
> > willingly kill themselves in their effort to bring death and suffering
> > to as
> > many innocents as they can, here in this country or anywhere in the
> > world
> > where freedom has a foothold."

> > Giuliani, who was the city's mayor during the 9/11 attacks and
> > aftermath,
> > continued:

> > "The central provisions of the Patriot Act allow law enforcement and
> > the
> > intelligence community to share information. This might seem
> > elementary, but
> > for years law enforcement had been stymied by a legal wall that
> > prevented
> > agencies from sharing information. For four years now, inter-agency
> > collaboration, made possible by the Patriot Act, has played an
> > important
> > role in preventing another day like Sept. 11. The act's provisions
> > helped
> > make possible the investigations in Lackawanna, N.Y., and Portland,
> > Ore., in
> > which 12 people were ultimately convicted for attempts to aid Al Qaeda
> > and
> > the Taliban.

> > "So what happened in Washington? The House voted on Wednesday to renew
> > the
> > act; it stalled in the Senate. If the Senate fails to approve the
> > extension,
> > the government will be forced to revert in many ways to our pre-Sept.
> > 11
> > methods. Six{*filter*} provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire on
> > Dec. 31,
> > including the key information-sharing ones.

> > "It is simply false to claim, as some of its critics do, that this bill
> > does
> > not respond to concerns about civil liberties. The four-year extension
> > of
> > the Patriot Act, as passed by the House, would not only reauthorize the

> > expiring provisions - allowing our Joint Terrorism Task Force, National

> > Counterterrorism Center and Terrorist Screening Center to continue
> > their
> > work uninterrupted - it would also make a number of common-sense
> > clarifications and add dozens of additional civil liberties safeguards.

> > "Concerns have been raised about the so-called library records
> > provision;
> > the bill adds safeguards. The same is true for roving wiretaps, 'sneak
> > and
> > peek' searches and access to counsel and courts, as well as many others

> > concerns raised by groups like the American Library Association and the

> > American Civil Liberties Union.

> > "Given these improvements, there is simply no compelling argument for
> > going
> > backward in the fight against terrorism. Perhaps a reminder is in
> > order. The
> > bipartisan 9/11 commission described a vivid example of how the old
> > ways
> > hurt us. In the summer of 2001, an FBI agent investigating two
> > individuals
> > we now know were hijackers on Sept. 11 asked to share information with
> > another team of agents. This request was refused because of the wall.
> > The
> > agent's response was tragically prescient: 'Someday, someone will die -
> > and
> > wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more
> > effective.'

> > "How quickly we forget."

> > http://www.***.com/



Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:47:29 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act
Quote:

> Ignore....



> > > Sunday, Dec. 18, 2005 11:13 a.m. EST
> > > Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act

> > > Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has come out swinging
> > > against
> > > the Democratic-led filibuster that prevented a reauthorization vote on
> > > the
> > > USA Patriot Act.

> > > In an op-ed column in the New York Times, Giuliani said the Senate
> > > action
> > > "represents a grave potential threat to the nation's security. ...
> > > Americans
> > > must use every legal and constitutional tool in their arsenal to fight
> > > terrorism and protect their lives and liberties.

> > > "The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, made clear that the old rules no longer

> > > work. The terrorists who attacked us seek to kill innocent men, women
> > > and
> > > children of all races and creeds. They seek to destroy our liberties.
> > > They
> > > willingly kill themselves in their effort to bring death and suffering
> > > to as
> > > many innocents as they can, here in this country or anywhere in the
> > > world
> > > where freedom has a foothold."

> > > Giuliani, who was the city's mayor during the 9/11 attacks and
> > > aftermath,
> > > continued:

> > > "The central provisions of the Patriot Act allow law enforcement and
> > > the
> > > intelligence community to share information. This might seem
> > > elementary, but
> > > for years law enforcement had been stymied by a legal wall that
> > > prevented
> > > agencies from sharing information. For four years now, inter-agency
> > > collaboration, made possible by the Patriot Act, has played an
> > > important
> > > role in preventing another day like Sept. 11. The act's provisions
> > > helped
> > > make possible the investigations in Lackawanna, N.Y., and Portland,
> > > Ore., in
> > > which 12 people were ultimately convicted for attempts to aid Al Qaeda
> > > and
> > > the Taliban.

> > > "So what happened in Washington? The House voted on Wednesday to renew
> > > the
> > > act; it stalled in the Senate. If the Senate fails to approve the
> > > extension,
> > > the government will be forced to revert in many ways to our pre-Sept.
> > > 11
> > > methods. Six{*filter*} provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire on
> > > Dec. 31,
> > > including the key information-sharing ones.

> > > "It is simply false to claim, as some of its critics do, that this bill
> > > does
> > > not respond to concerns about civil liberties. The four-year extension
> > > of
> > > the Patriot Act, as passed by the House, would not only reauthorize the

> > > expiring provisions - allowing our Joint Terrorism Task Force, National

> > > Counterterrorism Center and Terrorist Screening Center to continue
> > > their
> > > work uninterrupted - it would also make a number of common-sense
> > > clarifications and add dozens of additional civil liberties safeguards.

> > > "Concerns have been raised about the so-called library records
> > > provision;
> > > the bill adds safeguards. The same is true for roving wiretaps, 'sneak
> > > and
> > > peek' searches and access to counsel and courts, as well as many others

> > > concerns raised by groups like the American Library Association and the

> > > American Civil Liberties Union.

> > > "Given these improvements, there is simply no compelling argument for
> > > going
> > > backward in the fight against terrorism. Perhaps a reminder is in
> > > order. The
> > > bipartisan 9/11 commission described a vivid example of how the old
> > > ways
> > > hurt us. In the summer of 2001, an FBI agent investigating two
> > > individuals
> > > we now know were hijackers on Sept. 11 asked to share information with
> > > another team of agents. This request was refused because of the wall.
> > > The
> > > agent's response was tragically prescient: 'Someday, someone will die -
> > > and
> > > wall or not - the public will not understand why we were not more
> > > effective.'

> > > "How quickly we forget."

> > > http://www.***.com/



Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:16:18 GMT
 Giuliani ""How quickly we forget." Re: Patriot act
Amsterdam IP address...  I wonder who that Imposter is?    Oh Marty


Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:22:04 GMT
 
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