With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
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HepAutoMag #1 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
The modern pharmacuetical health quacks are simply, supersalespeople They play on fear, they cater to hope and once they have you hooked, theyll keep you coming back for more.. and more.. and more Seldom do quack victims realize how skillfully they are cheated Does the mother who feels good as she hands her child a ritalin pill think to ask herself whether the child really needs it.. Do subscribers to *the latest cure* publications realize that articles are slanted to stimulate business for their advertisers ? Most people think that quackery is easy to spot.. Often it is not, its promoters wear and hide in the cloak of science They use scientific terms and quote or misquote scientific references They often refer to themselves as *scientists ahead of their time* The very word *quack* helps their camouflage by making us think of an outlandish character selling antifreeze l from the back of an old wagon And, of course, no intelligent people would buy anti freeze for a cure, would they ?? Well, maybe antifreeze isn't selling so well these days.. But for chemotherapy?, radiation?, Mega antibiotics?, Polyetheylne Glycol? Latest diet book?, Stress formulas?, ie..prozac, xanax etc. Cholesterol-lowering {*filter*} like lipitor a major killer of the liver. pharmaceutical remedies?, Non Nutritional *cures* for AIDS?, like AZT or drigs to pep you up? business is booming with annual profits in the billions.. Seontonin reducers, Synthetic Interferon Immune boosters, Water purifiers such as chlorine and flouride, Ergogenic aids like melathion, Systems to balance body chemistry like lithium, Special {*filter*} for arthritis such as tylenol, Their product list is endless What sells is not the quality of their products but their ability to influence their audience * To those in pain, they promise relief * To the incurable, they offer hope * To the nutrition-conscious, they say, *Make sure you have enough* *{*filter*}* * To a public worried about pollution, they say *Buy this chemical to counteract that chemical* * To one and all, they promise better health and a longer life * Modern quacks can reach people emotionally, and DO :))))))) I agree.
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:16:06 GMT |
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NA2RLALK #2 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Quote: >Seontonin reducers,
I am assuming that you mean a Serotonin reducer? What would that be?
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:30:47 GMT |
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NA2RLALK #3 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Quote: >a neurotransmitter involved in >e.g. sleep and depression and memory
Right - the class being SSRI, or selective re-uptake inhibitor...but hardly a "reducer". I just wondered what the purpose of a serotonin reducer would be. My knowledge of things like that is pretty limited, what with my being a redneck and all. Jen
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:34:30 GMT |
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NA2RLALK #4 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Quote: > SSRIs are >not for everyone and there are chemical differences in their compositions.
Thanks, Lynne - but I was really just being sarcastic. ( My husband has been on several different SSRI's, and I suppose they're fine if low serotonin levels are the problem - they're worthless if that's not were the problem lies.) My point was that they are made to boost seratonin levels and to keep them in your system longer, as opposed to being a "reducer" which I had never heard of. Jen
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:26:48 GMT |
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Firebi #5 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
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> The modern alternative health quacks are simply, supersalespeople > They play on fear, they cater to hope and once they have you > hooked, theyll keep you coming back for more.. and more.. and more > Seldom do quack victims realize how skillfully they are cheated > Does the mother who feels good as she hands her child a vitamin > think to ask herself whether the child really needs it.. > Do subscribers to *health* publications realize that articles > are slanted to stimulate business for their advertisers ? > Most people think that quackery is easy to spot.. > Often it is not, its promoters wear and hide in the cloak of science > They use scientific terms and quote or misquote scientific references > They often refer to themselves as *scientists ahead of their time* > The very word *quack* helps their camouflage by making us think of an > outlandish character selling snake oil from the back of an old wagon > And, of course, no intelligent people would buy snake oil, would they ?? > Well, maybe snake oil isn't selling so well these days.. > But for Acupuncture?, Organic foods?, Megavitamins?, Hair analysis? > Magnets?, Latest diet book?, Stress formulas?, Cholesterol-lowering > teas? > Homeopathic remedies?, Nutritional *cures* for AIDS?, or Shots to pep > you up? business is booming with annual profits in the billions.. > Spot reducers, Immune boosters, Water purifiers, Ergogenic aids, > Systems to balance body chemistry, Special diets for arthritis > Their product list is endless > What sells is not the quality of their products but > their ability to influence their audience > * To those in pain, they promise relief > * To the incurable, they offer hope > * To the nutrition-conscious, they say, *Make sure you have enough* > * To a public worried about pollution, they say *Buy natural* > * To one and all, they promise better health and a longer life > * Modern quacks can reach people emotionally, and DO
What medical qualifications do you posses that entitle you to pass this judgement on the treatments other people chose to use? This is just *your* opinion and has no scientific basis at all! Can you post some scientific evidence to back up your claims, or can we just delete this as more of your biased opinions? Alan
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:58:00 GMT |
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Firebi #6 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
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> Pills to, help you make it through the night, or day > or year, or life I guess
Yes! It's a bit like your beer isn't it? And your fantasy world where you are a professor who drives a porsche! Alan
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Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:30:00 GMT |
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Sue #7 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
I believe the word quack comes from German, related to the word quicksilver for mercury, which some were using long ago with silver for teeth fillings...... Sue
Quote: > The modern alternative health quacks are simply, supersalespeople > They play on fear, they cater to hope and once they have you > hooked, theyll keep you coming back for more.. and more.. and more > Seldom do quack victims realize how skillfully they are cheated > Does the mother who feels good as she hands her child a vitamin > think to ask herself whether the child really needs it.. > Do subscribers to *health* publications realize that articles > are slanted to stimulate business for their advertisers ? > Most people think that quackery is easy to spot.. > Often it is not, its promoters wear and hide in the cloak of science > They use scientific terms and quote or misquote scientific references > They often refer to themselves as *scientists ahead of their time* > The very word *quack* helps their camouflage by making us think of an > outlandish character selling snake oil from the back of an old wagon > And, of course, no intelligent people would buy snake oil, would they ?? > Well, maybe snake oil isn't selling so well these days.. > But for Acupuncture?, Organic foods?, Megavitamins?, Hair analysis? > Magnets?, Latest diet book?, Stress formulas?, Cholesterol-lowering teas? > Homeopathic remedies?, Nutritional *cures* for AIDS?, or Shots to pep you up? > business is booming with annual profits in the billions.. > Spot reducers, Immune boosters, Water purifiers, Ergogenic aids, Systems to > balance body chemistry, Special diets for arthritis > Their product list is endless > What sells is not the quality of their products but > their ability to influence their audience > * To those in pain, they promise relief > * To the incurable, they offer hope > * To the nutrition-conscious, they say, *Make sure you have enough* > * To a public worried about pollution, they say *Buy natural* > * To one and all, they promise better health and a longer life > * Modern quacks can reach people emotionally, and DO > Professor Von Two Steps
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:36:02 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #8 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Quote: >a neurotransmitter involved in >e.g. sleep and depression and memory
Right - the class being SSRI, or selective re-uptake inhibitor...but hardly a "reducer". I just wondered what the purpose of a serotonin reducer would be. My knowledge of things like that is pretty limited, what with my being a redneck and all. Jen Oh well inhibit....hide....reduce. It does actually BLOCK the serotonin to the brain for serious problems like psycosis, alzihiemers, schitsophrenia and other mental disorders, however on the other hand your right.... for depression and common ailments of the mind, it enhances the serotonin. don't ask me why the difference...and whatever you do don't ask a doctor. (They don't cure hiccups though) but Thorazine does, however, I would'nt give that to my dog either since one of the side effects is severe {*filter*} and muscle twitching....which I just don't need right now. I got enough headaches without drug induced tourettes. It is crucial to learn that according to medical research the theory behind this group of {*filter*} is invalid. Known as serotonin reuptake inhibitors. They are designed to block serotonin in the brain, thereby increasing brain levels of this neurotransmitter. Yet for three decades researchers have been intensely interested in serotonin because LSD and PCP produce their psychedelic effects by mimicking serotonin. Elevated serotonin is found in: psychosis or schizophrenia, mood disorders, organic brain disease, mental retardation, autism and Alzheimer's. While low levels of the metabolism of serotonin (which also produces high serotonin), so if ya get sad, they give ya some {*filter*} for psyhcosis, schizophrenia.... etcetera. lol. And charge your insurance company through the nose drain it with a hose...suck it right up like there's no tomorrow. haha. Kim Kim
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:04:37 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #9 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
My point was that they are made to boost seratonin levels and to keep them in your system longer, as opposed to being a "reducer" which I had never heard depends what the psych problem is...they either block it or enhance it.
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:05:31 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #10 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
I believe the word quack comes from German, related to the word quicksilver for mercury, which some were using long ago with silver for teeth fillings...... If you don't get mercury now and can't afford the porceline ones...I think you get amalgam that has lead. But don't worry...LOL it won't do any damage. as long as it does'nt fall out and you don't swallow it. Or is that quackery?
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:08:14 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #11 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Mercury goes back to Greek Mythology. Mercury or Hermes was the god of persuasive speech or oratory. He is the god of those who use persuasiveness to cajole buyers into buying whatever they are purchasing. He is the protector of thieves and and rascals. I wonder how long we bought mercury fillings for? Where was that protector of theives and rascals when the dentist was pouring mercury down my throat and charging me for it?
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:09:36 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #12 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
for mercury, which some were using long ago with silver for teeth fillings...... lest we forget the thermisol that is contained in the HEP B vaccine. I wonder what thermisol is anyway. never mind the fermalgahyde.
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:57:09 GMT |
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HepAutoMag #13 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Do you smoke cigarettes Kim? Formaldehyde is an ingredient in cigarettes. Yes I do, and there is cyanide in them too. They are a harmful product and I recognize that. I wish I did'nt smoke. I suppose I could get zyban, but I have'nt looked up the ingredients in that yet. I don't smoke in the house though....not that it makes my bad habbit better.
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:40:44 GMT |
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rick nelso #14 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
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> Do you smoke cigarettes Kim? Formaldehyde is an ingredient in > cigarettes. > Yes I do, and there is cyanide in them too. They are a harmful product and I > recognize that. I wish I did'nt smoke. I suppose I could get zyban, but I > have'nt looked up the ingredients in that yet. I don't smoke in the house > though....not that it makes my bad habbit better.
I always ask smokers if they enjoyed their very first cigarette. Almost universally the answer is, "No!" I then ask why they tried it a second time. They never have an answer. A documentary on {*filter*}ions claimed that nicotine is harder to kick than {*filter*}, junk or coke. Good luck Kim. rick rick
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:06:24 GMT |
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NA2RLALK #15 / 68
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 With a quack quack here, and a quack quack there...
Quote: >Oh well inhibit....hide....reduce. It does actually BLOCK the serotonin to the
RE-UPTAKE inhibitor - How they work "The brain is made up of millions of interconnected brain cells (neurons). Messages travel along these cells rather like electricity down a wire, but when the message reaches the end of the neuron, it has to jump the gap (synapse) to the next cell or group of cells. This is achieved by the neuron releasing tiny amounts of a chemical (neurotransmitter) into the gap between the nerve cells. The receiving neuron has many places on its surface which act rather like locks, for which the appropriate neurotransmitter is the key. These are called receptors. When enough of the neurotransmitter has locked on to these receptors, a nerve impulse is started in the new nerve, and thus the massage gets from one nerve to the next. In order to allow the nerve to recover and receive the next message, and in order to replenish stocks of the neurotransmitter in the original neuron, ready to send the next message, the body has a clever way of removing the neurotransmitter from the receptors, and allowing it to be taken back into the originating nerve (re-uptake). In depression certain neurotransmitters are relatively lacking. One of those is serotonin, also known as 5-hydroxytryptamine or 5-HT. The SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors) slow down the process of returning the serotonin to the end of the neuron it comes from. This leads to the chemical remaining in the vicinity of the receptors for longer, making it more likely that enough will build up to set off the impulse in the next neuron. Thus, the SSRIs work by allowing the body to make the best use of the reduced amounts of serotonin that it has at the time. In due course, the levels of natural serotonin will rise again, and the SSRI can be reduced and withdrawn." http://www.***.com/ {*filter*}/ssris.html
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Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:56:25 GMT |
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