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 "Cancer: ONE Disease"

Greetings,
This is my first post here and I happen to be pretty upset with the dolts
over on alt.support.cancer. I can't believe they can't see how important
Folkman's science of angiogenesis is. We are almost four years into the
battle of the beast with my wife and I track all promising protocols and
breakthroughs. I run a huge cancer list and NOTHING, nothing compares to
what Folkman's science is promising. Contrary to the horrible newspaper
reporting, this science crosses all medical specialties, is huge and will be
proven to help millions. Did anyone see the NOVA special on Folkman or read
the latest book on him by Robert Cooke. Anyone with cancer should...I
apologize in advance, I don't have a lot of time and very little patience.
If you cut me down or Folkman without getting your facts straight...watch
out is all I say.

I operate on 1500 more Americans died again today, despite all the efforts,
our families and friends...enough. We can do more, Folkman knows it and will
be proven correct.....mark my words.
Regards,
-NHLlowKIA
=========
"Cancer: ONE Disease"
March 1, 2001
By NHLlowKIA

I tire of getting questions from people asking if I think Dr. Folkman's
science of anti-angiogenesis, or stopping the {*filter*} supply, will work for
their cancer, such as _____________(pick any cancer). Folkman's science
clearly shows that CANCER, in order to grow larger than a pinhead NEEDS a
{*filter*} supply. That is why the {*filter*} Folkman and experts are so e{*filter*}d
about, Endostatin, Angiostatin, and Panzem are for "CANCER." Cancer as one
disease has been hinted to in the past by OTHERS and in Folkman's head for
decades, in the early 70s and ....:

From "The Cancer Industry",by Ralph Moss, PHd pg 9, Thomas, chancellor at
Memorial Sloan Ketterling believed cancer to be a single disease....note he
says it again in 1996: (Excerpt) pg 9:

"It's beginning to seem almost certain that cancer will turn out to be not a
hundred different diseases but a SINGLE, very profound disturbance, set off
by the same(in principle, at least) common perturbance of the genetic
information carried by living cells (Thomas, 1996)
===
Folkman has repeatedly said he is uncomfortable on the 'tumor' side but
comfortable on the {*filter*} supply side. He knows, all these years we have
ignored the {*filter*} SUPPLY side of the equation. To turn cancer into a chronic
disease we need to target the TUMOR AND the {*filter*} supply. Folkman's approach
is anti-{*filter*} supply or anti-endothelial cell, one endothelial cell can
support 1 to 50 tumor cells. Note how important the endothelial cell is,
this is one of Folkman's take home messages: "The results argue that the
various cancer phenotypes - tumor growth, invasion, metastasis, progression,
dormancy, and tumor cell apoptosis - are NOT autonomous but under the TIGHT
control of the microvascular ENDOTHELIAL cell."
==
One disease...
===
The NCI thinks cancer is hundreds of diseases, as do most cancer researchers
and oncologists, with ALL those genes, all those mutations, but guess what?
There is still that ONE {*filter*} supply. See what Folkman said on that note, in
this very important paper: "Cancer: looking outside the genome"
http://www.***.com/

"The question now is not how {*filter*} and colon carcinomas differ genetically,
but in what fundamental ways these disparate tumours are similar. In this
sense, the paradigm recasts cancer as a single disease.

Cancer recast as a SINGLE disease...."
==
In closing, look at this quote by Folkman in regards to cancer, study it
carefully:

"Lethality is angiogenesis dependent." -- Dr. Moses Judah Folkman, Dec. 1999

or to put it in Johnnie Cochrane terms:

"If we don't wanna die, we gotta target the {*filter*} SUPPLY."
===
Remember, ANY cancer needs a {*filter*} supply to even get this
big --------------------> .

In closing, I firmly believe, in all my research that Folkman's approach
will be the foundation for all cancer treatment in the future. Angiogenesis
doesn't stop with cancer but crosses all medical specialties and I don't ask
myself if it works, I ask, where does it end? For now, we need to educate
and I feel, like Folkman, cancer is ONE DISEASE, these are NEW RULES....we
need to PUSH...PUSH hard.
====
(all the references I have used in this post can be backed up with these
resources)
The BASICS: http://www.***.com/
The HUMAN RESULTS: http://www.***.com/



Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:04:27 GMT
 "Cancer: ONE Disease"


Quote:
> Greetings,
> This is my first post here and I happen to be pretty upset with the dolts
> over on alt.support.cancer. I can't believe they can't see how important
> Folkman's science of angiogenesis is

You will be even more upset with the folks you find here.
Mostly they are not "dolts", and a large fraction are scientists.

In this newsgroup you can stick to the science.
Take your pump and dump scam elsewhere.

--

   ...  Hank

http://horedson.home.att.net



Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:54:12 GMT
 "Cancer: ONE Disease"
NHLlowKIA(no name) says:

<<  I don't have a lot of time and very little patience.
If you cut me down or Folkman without getting your facts straight...watch
out is all I say. >>

What you will get in response is vitriolic abuse.
Rolf



Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:57:46 GMT
 "Cancer: ONE Disease"
Guys, I have to  tell you on this board, yes, I called Rolf a "dog with a
hair lip" and sharp as a tennis ball and I am not proud but I can't let up
for reasons explained below.  Hank, on the other hand,  thinks I am just a
'pump and dump' artist...everytime I read his posts I ask myself, "Can I
have the last ten seconds of my life back?" Guess what both these guys have
in common? They don't tell you ANYTHING...nothing.

So, who has read the Folkman book or even watched the program on NOVA
recently?

I like how finally the FDA has realized these {*filter*} don't target the tumor,
which doesn't work by the way for most people..unless you cut it out...which
is what worked the best 2000 years ago.  Anyway, these {*filter*} target the
endothelial cell or anti-endothelial cell and we need to make sure we are
NOT sending patients home to die with hospice care WITHOUT attempting some
sort of anti-{*filter*} supply appoach...Thalomid, interferon, metronomic chemo,
Celebrex, and possibly Vioxx.

Folkman is right, we need to help push his science...through the doctors
STILL not getting it and especailly right through the people like Rolf and
Hank, the information deprived.

Yours in WAR,
-NHLlowKIA


Quote:
> NHLlowKIA(no name) says:

> <<  I don't have a lot of time and very little patience.
> If you cut me down or Folkman without getting your facts straight...watch
> out is all I say. >>

> What you will get in response is vitriolic abuse.
> Rolf



Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:38:59 GMT
 "Cancer: ONE Disease"
<< I called Rolf a "dog with a
hair lip" and sharp as a tennis ball >>
<<  Hank, on the other hand,  thinks I am just a
'pump and dump' artist >>

Actually, with his ten shares of stock, I don't think Llowkia willl make much
money 'pumping and dumping'.
Rolf (SEC Registered Inv Advisor)
Stanford MBA '57



Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:42:46 GMT
 "Cancer: ONE Disease"
esceque tu peut parler fran?ais s.v.p


Quote:
> Greetings,
> This is my first post here and I happen to be pretty upset with the dolts
> over on alt.support.cancer. I can't believe they can't see how important
> Folkman's science of angiogenesis is. We are almost four years into the
> battle of the beast with my wife and I track all promising protocols and
> breakthroughs. I run a huge cancer list and NOTHING, nothing compares to
> what Folkman's science is promising. Contrary to the horrible newspaper
> reporting, this science crosses all medical specialties, is huge and will
be
> proven to help millions. Did anyone see the NOVA special on Folkman or
read
> the latest book on him by Robert Cooke. Anyone with cancer should...I
> apologize in advance, I don't have a lot of time and very little patience.
> If you cut me down or Folkman without getting your facts straight...watch
> out is all I say.

> I operate on 1500 more Americans died again today, despite all the
efforts,
> our families and friends...enough. We can do more, Folkman knows it and
will
> be proven correct.....mark my words.
> Regards,
> -NHLlowKIA
> =========
> "Cancer: ONE Disease"
> March 1, 2001
> By NHLlowKIA

> I tire of getting questions from people asking if I think Dr. Folkman's
> science of anti-angiogenesis, or stopping the {*filter*} supply, will work for
> their cancer, such as _____________(pick any cancer). Folkman's science
> clearly shows that CANCER, in order to grow larger than a pinhead NEEDS a
> {*filter*} supply. That is why the {*filter*} Folkman and experts are so e{*filter*}d
> about, Endostatin, Angiostatin, and Panzem are for "CANCER." Cancer as one
> disease has been hinted to in the past by OTHERS and in Folkman's head for
> decades, in the early 70s and ....:

> From "The Cancer Industry",by Ralph Moss, PHd pg 9, Thomas, chancellor at
> Memorial Sloan Ketterling believed cancer to be a single disease....note
he
> says it again in 1996: (Excerpt) pg 9:

> "It's beginning to seem almost certain that cancer will turn out to be not
a
> hundred different diseases but a SINGLE, very profound disturbance, set
off
> by the same(in principle, at least) common perturbance of the genetic
> information carried by living cells (Thomas, 1996)
> ===
> Folkman has repeatedly said he is uncomfortable on the 'tumor' side but
> comfortable on the {*filter*} supply side. He knows, all these years we have
> ignored the {*filter*} SUPPLY side of the equation. To turn cancer into a
chronic
> disease we need to target the TUMOR AND the {*filter*} supply. Folkman's
approach
> is anti-{*filter*} supply or anti-endothelial cell, one endothelial cell can
> support 1 to 50 tumor cells. Note how important the endothelial cell is,
> this is one of Folkman's take home messages: "The results argue that the
> various cancer phenotypes - tumor growth, invasion, metastasis,
progression,
> dormancy, and tumor cell apoptosis - are NOT autonomous but under the
TIGHT
> control of the microvascular ENDOTHELIAL cell."
> ==
> One disease...
> ===
> The NCI thinks cancer is hundreds of diseases, as do most cancer
researchers
> and oncologists, with ALL those genes, all those mutations, but guess
what?
> There is still that ONE {*filter*} supply. See what Folkman said on that note,
in
> this very important paper: "Cancer: looking outside the genome"
> http://www.***.com/

> "The question now is not how {*filter*} and colon carcinomas differ
genetically,
> but in what fundamental ways these disparate tumours are similar. In this
> sense, the paradigm recasts cancer as a single disease.

> Cancer recast as a SINGLE disease...."
> ==
> In closing, look at this quote by Folkman in regards to cancer, study it
> carefully:

> "Lethality is angiogenesis dependent." -- Dr. Moses Judah Folkman, Dec.
1999

> or to put it in Johnnie Cochrane terms:

> "If we don't wanna die, we gotta target the {*filter*} SUPPLY."
> ===
> Remember, ANY cancer needs a {*filter*} supply to even get this
> big --------------------> .

> In closing, I firmly believe, in all my research that Folkman's approach
> will be the foundation for all cancer treatment in the future.
Angiogenesis
> doesn't stop with cancer but crosses all medical specialties and I don't
ask
> myself if it works, I ask, where does it end? For now, we need to educate
> and I feel, like Folkman, cancer is ONE DISEASE, these are NEW RULES....we
> need to PUSH...PUSH hard.
> ====
> (all the references I have used in this post can be backed up with these
> resources)
> The BASICS: http://www.***.com/
> The HUMAN RESULTS: http://www.***.com/



Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:11:00 GMT
 
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