The Exodus never happened because of these reasons:

In the Bible, it says that 600.000 MEN came out.
Add to that an equal amount of women and children
and you get about 2,000,000 souls.  And then
add to that the animals and materials.

They wandered the Sinai for 40 years.

It is a well known fact that overnight bedouin
campfires have been found carbon dated to 3000
B.C.  These are campfires made by a few people
in one night.

Israeli archaeologists have scoured the Sinai.

Absolutely no sign of the millions have been found.

And I am talking zero, none, nix,

What is with these biblical guys and their scientific
confirmations of the Bible????

Norm

In the film "The Ten Commandments" the Exodus is portrayed as one big
dramatic en masse event, but that is not always how expulsions work.  When
the Jews left Spain, the former Soviet Union or even Egypt in more recent
history, families left as quickly or protractedly as the circumstances
dictated.  Sometimes it was necessary to depart within a matter of hours
or sometimes the people were not permitted to go for years.  In spite of
what is written in the Scripture, the actual circumstances of this
particular Exodus are not known to us.  One has to keep in mind that these
Biblical happenings were not recorded on the spot.  They were kept alive
in the collective memory of the Jews, but the stories evolved, as all
folklore invariably will, until finally they were written down.

If anyone doubts that the Exodus occurred, it is because he does not know
or understand the Jewish People. Jews love to remember.  Every Jewish
holiday or day of commemoration marks some upheaval in our long history
and not all of them so far back in time.  Each year we celebrate the
rebirth of the State of Israel and each year a day is set aside for Jews
to gather together to lament the Holocaust as a group.

If, at the time of Passover, we repeat the rituals of our leaving Egypt
after a long stay, it is because that is precisely what happened to us.
Jews did not invent the Exodus just as an excuse to give Jewish women the
headache of having to make a Passover seder.  It's a lot of work, believe
me.

The Exodus needs re-evaluating--not dismissal. It is even plausible that
Moses liberated the Children of Israel from nothing so much as the
metaphorical "slavery" of assimilation by the time of the Exodus as the
Hebrews WERE part of Egyptian society. Most Egyptian slaves of every sort
usually melted into the population and Egypt, contrary to poular belief,
never had a large slave labor force in any period.  The growing
antisemitism that is described in the Book of Exodus was probably the
impetus for the Jews leaving what must have been home to them, as it has
been throughout history ever since.

You should aslo check out _Egypt, Canaan and Israel in Ancient Times_
by Donald Redford.

People will be extremely surprised when ALL the evidence at Jebel el
Lawz, Saudi Arabia (NW) is revealed and excavated showing the proof of
Mt. Sinai and the exodus happening!

Example:  

Jebel el Lawz and area has the following evidence:

Golden calf altar?:
ancient Egyptian petroglyphs of cows/bulls some 6 apiece of Hathor/Apis -
Saudi archaeologist says ONLY place in Arabia he has seen this.

Mt. Sinai on fire by God's presence?:
Jebel el Lawz is EVENLY burnt all the way around the top.  NOT volcanic
but the rocks are burnt on the outside.

12 Pillars/altar set by Moses?:
base of Jebel el Lawz is an stone structure made of uncut stones and
nearby is 12 large stones set in a semicircle.

Shrine?:
a 12 column marble shrine now broken up lies near the "altar." Someone
from a later date set this up.  Is there writing still on it?  Time will
tell! :)

Boundering markers set around the mountain by Moses?:
base of Jebel el Lawz is surrounded with 18 ft. diameter double stone
towers - now only tops are visible.

Other evidence:

- over 5,000 acres at base of Jebel el Lawz which is enough room for 2 +
million people (if there were that many)

- thousands of circular stone dwellings are near Jebel el Lawz

- rings with 18 dy{*filter*} pharoahs' names have been found there
AND pottery that isn't Midianite. (Hyksos pottery? - time will tell! :)

- local bedouins' tradition has Jebel el Lawz as Mt. Sinai

- Jebel el Lawz is located in ancient Midian! (see also Gal. 4:25)

- other side of mountain is a 5 story (65+ ft.) SPLIT ROCK on a hill that
has erosion patterns and a stream bed going to it cut in the valley's
floor.  Rock of Horeb which God split open and water came out of?

Saudi Arabian government is keeping the site quiet and have set fencing
around the different sites.  A guard house is at the base of the
mountain, too.

Now what about the Exodus route and the Red Sea crossing site?  If Jebel
el Lawz is Mt. Sinai than the rest of the story is true and the route
leads to that site!

Check out the Nuweiba beach in the Sinai peninsula on the Gulf of Aqaba.  
Beach is the only large place for the multitude.  Mountains to the south
block any escape passage!  Only ONE main wadi leads to beach from the
Egyptian/Midianite trade route across the Sinai peninsula! (read
Josephus)

Evidence at this area of Aqaba:

- c{*filter*}incrusted chariot parts and human/horses remains have been found
in the water.

- underwater LAND BRIDGE goes across the site to ARABIA.  The
underwater land bridge slopes at a gentle 6 degree angle to 1000 ft.
depth.  While on each site of this "land bridge" the gulf goes down to
some 5,000 ft.

- 2 Canaanite style pillars have been located at the site, one on each
shore.  The Saudi pillar has archaic hebrew writing on it.  The Saudis
have removed the pillar but their archaeological marker is there and has
been photographed.  Now we just need the photographs of the Saudi
pillar!!  Who set these up?  The writing will tell us - just wait and
see!

- 4, 6 and 8 spoke chariot wheels are at this site.  Proving that the
exodus occured in the early 18th dy{*filter*} (by the number of spokes).  A 4
spoke chariot wheel covered in GOLD has been found and photographed
(check web site for one photo of it).  Just the "shell" remains so it's
fragile and has been left in the water!

- a hub of a chariot wheel was retrieved in the late '70s which had 8
spokes radiating outward from it and the late Nassif Mohammed Hassan,
director of Antiquities ON TAPE said that it was 18th dy{*filter*}!!

- todays Gulf of Aqaba was also called the RED SEA (SEA of REEDS) in the
Bible (see 1 Kings 9:26).

If this isn't the Red Sea crossing site then please explain what it is
(NO IT'S NOT A MAJOR EGYPTIAN SHIP WRECK WITH REMAINS).  

E-mail me if you have questions and want more information.  A video with
all this documented and with much more will be coming out soon (hopefully
by fall).  This isn't my video.  I'm just researching out the info. about
these sites.

AJ

I am puzzled by this thread.

Exodus is essential to the spiritual history of the Jewish people.  OF
COURSE it happened, or the Jewish people would not be who they are today.

It is as real as the rock where Spider Woman brought the gift of weaving
to the Dine' or the place in the sky my people call "where the dog ran."  
I am not sure how a dumb fact, closeted in a heathen heart, could aspire
to more reality than that.

Steve Russell

This web page belongs to the famous ex-nurse-anesthetist Ron Wyatt who,
in addition to this new work, previously found Noah's Ark (at what some
would call a geologic structure known as a double plunging syncline);
the graves of Mr. and Mrs. Noah; the Ark of the Covenant; the Holy
Sepluchere; where Christ was crucified; the secret of the pyramids; and
his web page promises that the Tower of Babel is coming, etc. etc.
Ron's work has been disavowed even by staunch creationists [you would
have to think if there were *half* a chance the creationists would be
jumping all over this stuff].  For more info on Ron see his page
mentioned above and see the creationist web page at:

http://www.***.com/

[snip some "evidence"]

[snip]

Regards,
August Matthusen

Right on!  Pity you don't have the intelligence to realize the full
implications of your own statement.  My explanation would, of course, be
lost upon you.

Signed,

A Heathen Heart and, thankfully, a Matching Heathen Brain

-Peter

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Well, Peter, let me put it to you like this:  Previously, you were like
the old watch who took a{*filter*}ing but kept on ticking.  No matter how often
people tried to set you straight, you just kept on giving them the wrong
time of day.  Some folks tried to be patient with you and others, like
myself, who knew you were just tweaking our noses because you thrive on
negative attention, advised you to get lost from the start.  Then some
individuals noticed that your posts are from a government account.  What I
notice is, any thread having remotely to do with Jews you infect with your
garbage.  Now I see you are using a disclaimer--your views versus those of
your employer.  Do you really think that makes any difference if you are
using a US government account for antisemitic propaganda?  Peter, you are
a total idiot.  You are puckering up to the cobra and she is bound to kiss
you back.  Somebody is going to report your ass sure as shootin'.

Why don't you run while the running is good and get out of this newsgroup
once and for all?  You are obviously an extremely troubled individual,
very angry.  Go work out in a gym someplace if you've got to let off
steam.  Do us all a favor and do something physical and give that
overtaxed brain of yours a rest.  Intellectually, you box in a
featherweight category, anyway, O Great Government Screw-off.  Maybe
you'll get fired soon and have to get a job where you'll actually do some
work.

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Aaron Clausen                           Port Alberni, BC  Canada

This is most exciting news.  Evidently the individuals now living in
Egypt and falsely termed Egyptians are in fact still Nubian Jews of some
description.  But in that case, who are the several million impostors
now illegally inhabiting Israel?  

There is, of course, an alternative solution.  The fact that Six Hundred
Thousand Men made up the Hebrew Host, with no mention of Women, must
surely point to the Pitching of Tents Toward Sodom.  As has already been
pointed out by eminent scientists, {*filter*}s radiate intense heat,
particularly when rubbed together, an experiment taught to every small
boy by Scoutmasters.  Therefore the Proto-Sodomites had no need of
campfires, possessing 'camp fires' of their own.

Yours

Reverend Colonel Ignatius Churchward Von Berlitz M.A. (Dom. Sci.) Oxon.
(Oklahoma)