Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water) 
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 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:


>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:49:23 +1200, Chris Wilkinson

>>> Hi there,


>>>> Apparently a couple of years ago there was an experiment in a low-
>>>> decile Northland school: All the pupils were supplied with toothbrushes
>>>> and fluoride toothpaste at school. A mandatory five minute teeth-
>>>> brushing time was introduced between lunch and afternoon classes. The
>>>> result after a year was a 90%+ reduction in dental caries for the test
>>>> group.

>>> I would agree entirely with this. Sociological cause probably accounts
>>> for far more problems like this than we'd ever believe. All it takes
>>> is a bit of education about dental hygiene (via the 5 minute brush) to
>>> fix the problem...

>>> May be a reward system of some kind for kids who buy healthy cooking.net">food at
>>> the tuck shop, or bring a healthy lunch...

>>> Kind regards,

>>> Chris Wilkinson.

>> Having sat in a dental surgery in the far north for a while and
>> observed the problems coming and going, I believe I could say without
>> fair of contradiction that the baseline of dental health in that
>> community is very very low to start with.

>> I guess in many ways this is no wonder with the cost of high syrup
>> drinks being considerably cheaper than their healthier counterparts
>> e.g. milk, and even straight fruit juice.

> Therein lies a common misconception - that pure fruit juice is dentally
> healthy as well as nutritionally healthy. Since it contains both natural
> sugars and acids it will attack teeth if they are not cleaned after
> consumption.
> As a child I had lots of milk, little fruit juice, and didn't taste coca-
> cola until I was 14 (and I still dislike it unless it is mixed with an
> equal amount of bourbon :-).  Unfortunately I do have quite a few fillings
> in my {*filter*} teeth. But a fair number of those are due to the fact that I
> was bussed off to the Christchurch Dental Nurse's training school ("the
> {*filter*}house") week after week. As soon as my parents queried why a child
> with strong teeth was getting fillings eight weeks in a row, I was dropped
> from the list. (Maybe there is a class action waiting to happen?)

Now that would require a quality that is rather frowned upon in many
quarters: co-operation. The buzz word these days is competition.
Well I suppose two teams could face up, as in sport. Then the one
with the sponsor who can buy the better players would win. And just
imagine the revenue to the advertising agencies.

Now you mention brushing after fruit. And Ross has asked on another
article what sort of toothpaste, and has there been any progress on
this study which seems to show that simple abrasive toothpaste could
be worse?

*********************

Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: arthritis & tooth decay in fossil record


Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:41:45 +0000

Quote:

>I heard that the human fossil record does not show tooth decay or
>arthritis before ~10k ago. Is this true?

Nope, false. You can use these sorts of flaw to assess the age of the
fossil at death. Of course, when people had a life expectancy of maybe
early twenties then there is not much of an opportunity to get tooth
decay, and without sugar and so on teeth can last quite well.

The tooth decay in early agricultural communities comes about when the
corn is ground on a granite stone. Bits of granite enter the bread and
abrade the teeth. Some of these communities are older than 10k years
ago, but it is around then that these types of lifestyle become
viable, along with a longer life expectancy, so in a sense there is a
clear change in the record. Not quite as absolute as "none prior",
though.

************************



Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:51:56 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)
On 14 Jun 2003 10:51:56 GMT, Brian Sandle

Quote:



>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:49:23 +1200, Chris Wilkinson

>>>> Hi there,


>>>>> Apparently a couple of years ago there was an experiment in a low-
>>>>> decile Northland school: All the pupils were supplied with toothbrushes
>>>>> and fluoride toothpaste at school. A mandatory five minute teeth-
>>>>> brushing time was introduced between lunch and afternoon classes. The
>>>>> result after a year was a 90%+ reduction in dental caries for the test
>>>>> group.

>>>> I would agree entirely with this. Sociological cause probably accounts
>>>> for far more problems like this than we'd ever believe. All it takes
>>>> is a bit of education about dental hygiene (via the 5 minute brush) to
>>>> fix the problem...

>>>> May be a reward system of some kind for kids who buy healthy cooking.net">food at
>>>> the tuck shop, or bring a healthy lunch...

>>>> Kind regards,

>>>> Chris Wilkinson.

>>> Having sat in a dental surgery in the far north for a while and
>>> observed the problems coming and going, I believe I could say without
>>> fair of contradiction that the baseline of dental health in that
>>> community is very very low to start with.

>>> I guess in many ways this is no wonder with the cost of high syrup
>>> drinks being considerably cheaper than their healthier counterparts
>>> e.g. milk, and even straight fruit juice.

>> Therein lies a common misconception - that pure fruit juice is dentally
>> healthy as well as nutritionally healthy. Since it contains both natural
>> sugars and acids it will attack teeth if they are not cleaned after
>> consumption.

>> As a child I had lots of milk, little fruit juice, and didn't taste coca-
>> cola until I was 14 (and I still dislike it unless it is mixed with an
>> equal amount of bourbon :-).  Unfortunately I do have quite a few fillings
>> in my {*filter*} teeth. But a fair number of those are due to the fact that I
>> was bussed off to the Christchurch Dental Nurse's training school ("the
>> {*filter*}house") week after week. As soon as my parents queried why a child
>> with strong teeth was getting fillings eight weeks in a row, I was dropped
>> from the list. (Maybe there is a class action waiting to happen?)

>Now that would require a quality that is rather frowned upon in many
>quarters: co-operation. The buzz word these days is competition.
>Well I suppose two teams could face up, as in sport.

Too late.

Budweiser already sponsors the Great Brush-Off. They televised it and
they had 67 million viewers at the last event. It was quite exciting
seeing all those participants all poised with their brushes, ready to
brush.

Next year they are including Flossing, sort of a dental
Tri-Cleanathon.

Very exciting! I almost fell off my chair.

Joel

Quote:
>Then the one
>with the sponsor who can buy the better players would win.

Why not  toothbrush endor{*filter*}t contracts? worth millions ....

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
>And just
>imagine the revenue to the advertising agencies.

>Now you mention brushing after fruit. And Ross has asked on another
>article what sort of toothpaste, and has there been any progress on
>this study which seems to show that simple abrasive toothpaste could
>be worse?

>*********************

>Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
>Subject: Re: arthritis & tooth decay in fossil record


>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:41:45 +0000


>>I heard that the human fossil record does not show tooth decay or
>>arthritis before ~10k ago. Is this true?

>Nope, false. You can use these sorts of flaw to assess the age of the
>fossil at death. Of course, when people had a life expectancy of maybe
>early twenties then there is not much of an opportunity to get tooth
>decay, and without sugar and so on teeth can last quite well.

>The tooth decay in early agricultural communities comes about when the
>corn is ground on a granite stone. Bits of granite enter the bread and
>abrade the teeth. Some of these communities are older than 10k years
>ago, but it is around then that these types of lifestyle become
>viable, along with a longer life expectancy, so in a sense there is a
>clear change in the record. Not quite as absolute as "none prior",
>though.

>************************

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Philadelphia PA

www.phillyducks.com
Were Just A Duck Call Away!

STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
has seen the tooth or teeth in
question so take this advice in
context ~ meaning with a grain
of salt or cream of wheat depending
on your preference!



Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:36:06 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:
> On 14 Jun 2003 10:51:56 GMT, Brian Sandle

>>> Therein lies a common misconception - that pure fruit juice is dentally
>>> healthy as well as nutritionally healthy. Since it contains both natural
>>> sugars and acids it will attack teeth if they are not cleaned after
>>> consumption.

>>> As a child I had lots of milk, little fruit juice, and didn't taste coca-
>>> cola until I was 14 (and I still dislike it unless it is mixed with an
>>> equal amount of bourbon :-).  Unfortunately I do have quite a few fillings
>>> in my {*filter*} teeth. But a fair number of those are due to the fact that I
>>> was bussed off to the Christchurch Dental Nurse's training school ("the
>>> {*filter*}house") week after week. As soon as my parents queried why a child
>>> with strong teeth was getting fillings eight weeks in a row, I was dropped
>>> from the list. (Maybe there is a class action waiting to happen?)

>>Now that would require a quality that is rather frowned upon in many
>>quarters: co-operation. The buzz word these days is competition.
>>Well I suppose two teams could face up, as in sport.
> Too late.
> Budweiser already sponsors the Great Brush-Off. They televised it and
> they had 67 million viewers at the last event. It was quite exciting
> seeing all those participants all poised with their brushes, ready to
> brush.

So you think the problem is already fixed?

Somewhere away in heaven they have faced off and now we do have the
outcome dentists going out of business?

Quote:
> Next year they are including Flossing, sort of a dental
> Tri-Cleanathon.
> Very exciting! I almost fell off my chair.

But you could be near retiring age anyway.

No, I know you will be very busy owing to the dental health resulting from
the economic approach in USA.

But Dentist B.D.Ritchie says in "A Child's Natural Dental Health" that he
does not believe in brushing or flossing for children under age 7 or
thereabouts.

He believes the tooth has a several-layer integument which protects the
tooth from sugar acids. Abrasive toothpaste removes the lower layers
of the integument. So then salivary minerals, including magnesium and
fluoride, are no longer synthesised to enamel repair compounds. It is the
lower layers of the integumetn which do that. If the integument is abraded
off a new one forms which holds acids near the enamel surface.

And brushing and flossing can also damage the gums, allowing infection in.

So we might understand how humans kept their teeth in ages past. What
archaeological evidence is there of tooth cleaning?

Quote:
> STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
> meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
> has seen the tooth or teeth in
> question so take this advice in
> context ~ meaning with a grain
> of salt or cream of wheat depending
> on your preference!

`Corn' being a name for wheat or grain.

Ritchie does believe children over the age of `discretion' can apply a
mineralising formula to the teeth with a soft brush. As I have posted in
the past there seems to be some similarity of it in part to Colgates'
Calcium toothpaste with monofluorophosphate. I find that settles
dentine-exposed teeth hurting through too much apple eating.

I am wary of silica gel toothpastes. I think they do not provide the
calcium, and silica is a harder abrasive. And in my case I like to
carefully massage the gums with the paste. I think it helps circulation,
and makes sure to get cooking.net">food away from the gum-tooth area. Ritchie says
children should be taught to suck and use their tongue to do that. I don't
suppose archaeology will be able to speak on that.

But to know of magnesium levels in the early diets would be interesting,
and any protection from tooth wear - the relaxation of magnesium
protecting from tooth grinding in the sleep.



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:51:55 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)
On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle

Quote:


>> On 14 Jun 2003 10:51:56 GMT, Brian Sandle

Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

Eric Stevens



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:41:52 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:
> On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle


>>> On 14 Jun 2003 10:51:56 GMT, Brian Sandle
> Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
> sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
today.

I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
not answer.



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:47:41 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)


Quote:

> > On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle
> > Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
> > sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.
> Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
> me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
> today.

> I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
> not answer.

define archaeology brian and i think you'll have your answer. current
health, adverti{*filter*}ts, and speculations or discussions on the condition and
practices of modern dental hygiene are not related into the context of
archaeology or physical anthropology (forensics or experimentation perhaps,
but it is in a manor relating to topics that extend outside of archaeology
as your string is presenting).

tedd.



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:58:28 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:




>> > On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle
>> > Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
>> > sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.
>> Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
>> me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
>> today.

>> I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
>> not answer.
> define archaeology brian and i think you'll have your answer. current
> health, adverti{*filter*}ts, and speculations or discussions on the condition and
> practices of modern dental hygiene are not related into the context of
> archaeology or physical anthropology (forensics or experimentation perhaps,
> but it is in a manor relating to topics that extend outside of archaeology
> as your string is presenting).
> tedd.

So what is the name of the discipline which looks at archaeological
records and examines changes in practices up to the present?


Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:00:10 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)


Quote:




> >> > On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle

> >> > Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
> >> > sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

> >> Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
> >> me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
> >> today.

> >> I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
> >> not answer.

> > define archaeology brian and i think you'll have your answer. current
> > health, adverti{*filter*}ts, and speculations or discussions on the condition
and
> > practices of modern dental hygiene are not related into the context of
> > archaeology or physical anthropology (forensics or experimentation
perhaps,
> > but it is in a manor relating to topics that extend outside of
archaeology
> > as your string is presenting).

> > tedd.

> So what is the name of the discipline which looks at archaeological
> records and examines changes in practices up to the present?

you're being argumentative over the topic. archaeology is not concerned with
modern "competition", "two teams could face up, as in sport", "sponsor's",
"buy the better players...", "revenue to the advertising agencies",
"brushing after fruit", "what sort of toothpaste", and "has there been any
progress on this study which seems to show that simple abrasive toothpaste
could be worse"...

as eric pointed out, you're off topic in the sci.archaeology newsgroup with
this discussion.

t.



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:03:36 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:

> On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle

>>But Dentist B.D.Ritchie says in "A Child's Natural Dental Health" that he
>>does not believe in brushing or flossing for children under age 7 or
>>thereabouts.
> A very bad idea.

Hi there, I see you posted the article in the 3 groups separately, is that
to get past spam blocking?

I may be offending Eric and Tedd, but there may be some sci.archaeology
readers out there who are interested in learning from the past which
archaeology searches to find out how things have developed to the
later practices whether that be _to_ 20000, 2000, 200 or 20 years ago or
whatever, _from_ the earlier time of however much before.

Thanks for starting to help me along on this.

You take me back to `tooth worms' 5000 years back. I remember Joel writing
of the wriggling which a tooth root does when it is extracted and placed
on a dish. Now perhaps your translation confuses the worms as a `cause' of
decay, to being the organs `susceptible' to the infection and the cause of
pain when infected.

Even today my dentist regards as tooth erosion as rather normal. I am just
wondering how to persuade him to do something before infection gets
through the exposed dentine to the root.

Now let's go back again to:
***********

Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Subject: Re: arthritis & tooth decay in fossil record

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:41:45 +0000

Quote:

>I heard that the human fossil record does not show tooth decay or
>arthritis before ~10k ago. Is this true?

Nope, false. You can use these sorts of flaw to assess the age of the
fossil at death. Of course, when people had a life expectancy of maybe
early twenties then there is not much of an opportunity to get tooth
decay, and without sugar and so on teeth can last quite well.

The tooth decay in early agricultural communities comes about when the
corn is ground on a granite stone. Bits of granite enter the bread and
abrade the teeth. Some of these communities are older than 10k years
ago, but it is around then that these types of lifestyle become
viable, along with a longer life expectancy, so in a sense there is a
clear change in the record. Not quite as absolute as "none prior",
though.

*************

Now though, WubbaBubba, you write of:

Quote:
> Pyramid at Saqarra (2600 B.C). From the skulls of early Egyptians, it
> is apparent that dentists like Hesi-Re primarily removed problem teeth
> or drilled holes in the jawbones as a means of releasing pressure
> caused by abscessed teeth.

there will also be the holes left in bones as abscesses erode the bone and
release the pressure themselves. I suppose the holes look different.

So now we have several factors to tabulate:

presence and extent of wear of teeth and any relation to naturally
occurring or operative bone holes.

Martyn refers to the increase in lifespan as a confusing factor, and there
is a further one. The archaeological records also show the first presence
of A {*filter*} group around that time. D'Adamo has said that. I hypothesize
that the reduced stomach acid production of the A {*filter*} group people
allows a longer time for the salivary enzymes to work on the starch in
grains. Stomach acid strength drops when cooking.net">food is swallowed. After a
duration of hours it rises back to normal. More slowly for the A group
people, and faster for the O group ones. Stomach acid neutralises the
salivary enzymes. But D'Adamo has other reasons why group A {*filter*} appeared
and group A people survived better in the fast growing populations
necessitating agriculture. The group A antigens attacked some community
disease - flu I think, included.

So we need to examine Martyn's claim for whether the extended life were
due to {*filter*} group A appearing. Well we should correlate jaw and
maxillary bone with age of subject, {*filter*} group as well as historical age.

Partial correlation would tend to show a factor is not causative if when
it is partialled out the other correlation of the relationship does not
change.

So then we would better ascertain relation between tooth abrasion and
decay.

Some of the abrasion will continue to wear away dentine will it not, so
infection won't go in, but some won't.

Going back to Martyn again, another point is that it may not have only
been bits of stone in the grain flour from the grinding, it may also have
been using the teeth to grind the grain which was causing wear.

Now the question is that if corrosive fruit acids were being consumed
before grain consumption started why was there not evidence of tooth decay
from it?

Quote:

>>He believes the tooth has a several-layer integument which protects the
>>tooth from sugar acids.
> He believes incorrectly.
>>Abrasive toothpaste removes the lower layers
>>of the integument.
> You cannot remove what is not there.
>>So then salivary minerals, including magnesium and
>>fluoride, are no longer synthesised to enamel repair compounds.
> What cells carry out this clever figment.
> WoW humans can synthesize
> Flourine and Magnesium, alert the media !

Enamel repair compounds are synthesised from fluorine and magnesium and
calcium phosphate in a complicated process in the layers of _mature_
plaque which harbour Veillonella and other bacteria, and in which the acid
producing Strep mutans is kept to about 1%.

Quote:
> The basic building block of tooth structure is hydroxyapatite
> Fluorapatite is formed when fluoride is present.
> Here are a couple of0 basic primers for you:
> http://www.***.com/ ,,239997_106905,00.html
> http://www.***.com/

Claiming that enamel cannot be repaired. Therefore why does tooth paste
with monofluorophosphate and calcium phosphate calm my teeth to the pain
of apple chewing in a way which lasts quite well?

Quote:
>>It is the
>>lower layers of the integumetn which do that. If the integument is abraded
>>off a new one forms which holds acids near the enamel surface.
> This structure does not exist except in Ritchie's mind.

It does not exist for the first few weeks after abrasive brushing.

Quote:

>>And brushing and flossing can also damage the gums, allowing infection in.
> Not if done correctly and with a soft brush. In fact lack of brushing
> leads to periodontal (gum) disease.

Lack of removing cooking.net">food from gums. Chewing celery could help, or carrot,
maybe even the acid apple if the protective plaque is present.

Quote:

>>So we might understand how humans kept their teeth in ages past. What
>>archaeological evidence is there of tooth cleaning?
> Plenty.
> How about the Ancient Egyptians?
> You know, Pharohs and Pyramids?
> Denal instruments and evidence of crude dental treatment
> an prostheses, and personal hygiene items have been found.

What ones?

I learnt at primary school that the Chinese used wooden sticks rarther
than abrasion.

Quote:
> We even know the name of one ancient egyptian 'Dentist to the Pharohs'
>    Dentistry goes back much further than the Middle Ages. The
> first known dentist was Hesi-Re, an Egyptian who lived during the
> reign of Zoser, the pharaoh who ordered the building of the great Step
> Pyramid at Saqarra (2600 B.C). From the skulls of early Egyptians, it
> is apparent that dentists like Hesi-Re primarily removed problem teeth
> or drilled holes in the jawbones as a means of releasing pressure
> caused by abscessed teeth.
> From:
> http://www.***.com/ :xMIFmSihMSoJ:www.smilecalifornia...
> Also Ancient Greek, Roman, and Chinese evidence has been found.
> http://www.***.com/
> The earliest recorded reference to {*filter*}disease is from a Sumerian
> text (circa 5,000 B.C.) that describes "tooth worms" as a cause of
> dental decay.
> Old enough archaeological evidence for you ?

The age in itself does not worry me, but relation of tooth abrasion to
disease and any understanding it brings for today.


Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:22:58 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:

>> So what is the name of the discipline which looks at archaeological
>> records and examines changes in practices up to the present?

No name?

Quote:
> you're being argumentative over the topic. archaeology is not concerned with
> modern "competition", "two teams could face up, as in sport", "sponsor's",
> "buy the better players...", "revenue to the advertising agencies",
> "brushing after fruit", "what sort of toothpaste", and "has there been any
> progress on this study which seems to show that simple abrasive toothpaste
> could be worse"...
> as eric pointed out, you're off topic in the sci.archaeology newsgroup with
> this discussion.

I could have asked the questions without giving the background. Then would
I have been off topic?

Is archaeology alway just for fun and never to be used to examine
practices?



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:35:57 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)

Quote:

>He believes the tooth has a several-layer integument which protects the
>tooth from sugar acids. Abrasive toothpaste removes the lower layers
>of the integument.

So called pellicle layer ....... .ummmmm, maybe!

Maybe not. I do not know ....

Joel

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Philadelphia PA

www.phillyducks.com
Were Just A Duck Call Away!

STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
has seen the tooth or teeth in
question so take this advice in
context ~ meaning with a grain
of salt or cream of wheat depending
on your preference!



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:37:00 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)
There are fascinating connections between archeology (human
anthropology) and dentistry ........

The mother lode for these studies is the Museum of Natural History in
New York ... Upper West side ........

Joel

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:41:52 +1200, Eric Stevens

Quote:

>On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle


>>> On 14 Jun 2003 10:51:56 GMT, Brian Sandle

>Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
>sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

>Eric Stevens

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Philadelphia PA

www.phillyducks.com
Were Just A Duck Call Away!

STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
has seen the tooth or teeth in
question so take this advice in
context ~ meaning with a grain
of salt or cream of wheat depending
on your preference!



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:38:44 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)
Gentlemen:

Know the name Wilton Krogman?

He taught our course in human development in dental school!

No orthodontist can practice his profession without a complete
knowledge of anthropology!

Joel



Quote:




>> > On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle

>> > Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
>> > sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

>> Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
>> me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
>> today.

>> I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
>> not answer.

>define archaeology brian and i think you'll have your answer. current
>health, adverti{*filter*}ts, and speculations or discussions on the condition and
>practices of modern dental hygiene are not related into the context of
>archaeology or physical anthropology (forensics or experimentation perhaps,
>but it is in a manor relating to topics that extend outside of archaeology
>as your string is presenting).

>tedd.

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Philadelphia PA

www.phillyducks.com
Were Just A Duck Call Away!

STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
has seen the tooth or teeth in
question so take this advice in
context ~ meaning with a grain
of salt or cream of wheat depending
on your preference!



Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:40:59 GMT
 Origins of tooth decay (Was: Re: Alternatives to fluoride in water)
Are anthropologists interested in the ontologic development of {*filter*}
structures for various physically challenged (con{*filter*}) individuals?
There are interesting dental developmental changes that could be of
interest.

Joel



Quote:




>> > On 14 Jun 2003 18:51:55 GMT, Brian Sandle

>> > Brian, please don't continue to cross-post this thread to
>> > sci.archaeology. Its completely off-topic.

>> Jeff Gonor on sci.archaeology.mesoamerican was also trying to stop
>> me trying to find reasons from archaeology for how to do things
>> today.

>> I asked him what he wants the limits of archaeology to be and he did
>> not answer.

>define archaeology brian and i think you'll have your answer. current
>health, adverti{*filter*}ts, and speculations or discussions on the condition and
>practices of modern dental hygiene are not related into the context of
>archaeology or physical anthropology (forensics or experimentation perhaps,
>but it is in a manor relating to topics that extend outside of archaeology
>as your string is presenting).

>tedd.

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Philadelphia PA

www.phillyducks.com
Were Just A Duck Call Away!

STANDARD DISCLAIMER applies ~
meaning no one IN PENNSYLVANIA
has seen the tooth or teeth in
question so take this advice in
context ~ meaning with a grain
of salt or cream of wheat depending
on your preference!



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