GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD 
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 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE
THANK YOU
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Fri, 13 Jun 1997 20:31:58 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

Quote:

> QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
> THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
> REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
> S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE

I don't think there is any custom on this, but we offer them back to the
patient first with an envelope where they can mail them to to obtain
some of the cost of the gold.

david dodell, dmd

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Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter




Fri, 13 Jun 1997 16:13:26 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD
Dear mappx,

I always offer the removed crowns to the patient.  Occasionally I get behind
and forget, or the crown doesn't come off easly and is ground off as dust or
small particles that go up the suction and into the drain..  

Most people don't don't what their scap gold, and it would be easy to assume
that no one would wants their old crowns.  

Having said that,  It would appropiate to call and ask the receoptionist that
you would like to have your old crowns, if possible.   I should also warn that
the salvage value from most gold crown is less than $15.00 even though in
initial form, the gold content  may have cost as much as $100.00.

Much of the cost of dental gold is in the refining, blending in certain other
elements, and meeting certification standards.

Lastly, it is a convention of the Internet that you don't write in all CAPS.
It makes it look like you're shouting.

Hope this has been helpful.

Vic C.


     ----------------------                    
     Victor L. Commean, DDS

"Let's go surfin' now"
"Everybody's learing how...."



Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:44:36 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

Quote:

>> QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
>> THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
>> REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
>> S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE

I always offer the gold to the patient.  If they don't want it, we
hold it and sell it for scrap, which like the previous writer said, you
don't get much money for because of the refining involved.  It would be
better to just save it and have your lab tech make some jewelry out of it.




Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:16:27 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

Quote:

> QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
> THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
> REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
> S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE
> THANK YOU
> --


Most dentists sell the s{*filter*}gold, and a few may use it
for hobby jewelry (rings, pendants, etc.).  

The gold should always be returned to the patient if the
patient so desires.  However, the vast majority of patients
have no use for the cut-up crowns unless they also have a
hobby of jewelry fabrication.  Rarely can a patient get a
decent price for s{*filter*}gold when the amount to be handled
is so small.

Be advised that many dentists have already figured the value
of the s{*filter*}gold into the price quoted for the new dental
restorations.  If the dentist is not allowed to keep the
used gold, he would be entitled to revise upward the cost
of the dental treatment, because he is not receiving the full
payment of cash plus gold which was accounted for in the
original estimate.  It is best to settle this issue before any
treatment starts in order to avoid any misunderstandings.



Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:52:49 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

Quote:

>QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
>THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
>REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
>S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE
>THANK YOU
>--


Unless you ask for the old crown, most dentists will sell it along
with other metals that they recycle.  Any reputable dentist will return
an old gold crown or other appliance if you ask.




Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:53:25 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD
The patient could keep the gold although the profit of reclaiming such a
small quanity would be much less than you would expect.  The refiners
charge quite a bit to assay ( determine the exact metal content)  For
small amounts this eats up most of the profit.  


Tue, 17 Jun 1997 15:28:24 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD


Quote:

>> QUESTION, IS IT COMMOM FOR THE DENTIST WHEN REMOVING GOLD CROWNS TO KEEP
>> THE GOLD OR SHOULD IT BE RETURNED TO THE PATIENT. I HAD 3 GOLD CROWNS
>> REMOVED AND THE DDS DID NOT RETURN THEM. I ASSUMES HE SELLS THE GOLD FOR
>> S{*filter*}OR WHAT?   PLEASE ADVISE
>> THANK YOU
>> --

>Most dentists sell the s{*filter*}gold, and a few may use it
>for hobby jewelry (rings, pendants, etc.).  

>The gold should always be returned to the patient if the
>patient so desires.  However, the vast majority of patients
>have no use for the cut-up crowns unless they also have a
>hobby of jewelry fabrication.  Rarely can a patient get a
>decent price for s{*filter*}gold when the amount to be handled
>is so small.

>Be advised that many dentists have already figured the value
>of the s{*filter*}gold into the price quoted for the new dental
>restorations.  If the dentist is not allowed to keep the
>used gold, he would be entitled to revise upward the cost
>of the dental treatment, because he is not receiving the full
>payment of cash plus gold which was accounted for in the
>original estimate.  It is best to settle this issue before any
>treatment starts in order to avoid any misunderstandings.

The preceding paragraph stating that a dentist figures in the value of
the s{*filter*}gold is ludicrous!  What about the situation in which there is
no previous crown to remove?  Most dentists charge a specific fee for a
certain kind of crown whether it be a gold casting or a porcelain crown.  
In todays market, the dentist should always return what is left of the
removed crown to the patient or at least offer to do so.  There can be no
justification for the dentist to keep the crown unless this has been
previously agreed to by the patient.  The preceding assumes that there is
some gold in the removed crown (some crowns are made of non precious
metal and have little or no gold content - making the crown worthless).
--



Tue, 17 Jun 1997 15:12:16 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

I always let the patient do whatever they desire with the prosthesis. Most
want to keep the goldwork, which is fine with me. The problem is when the
patient wants to keep extracted teeth or those teeth attached to goldwork.
Since biological waste is under the scrutiny of OSHA, letting patients leave
with viral/bacterial laden specimens is blatantly irresponsible to the public
health, and technically should be self-policed. I guess I'm no fun for the
tooth-fairy crowd.

I just try to return the aseptic non-biologicals.

  Dr. Les, Cook CO. Health Dept, Chicago
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Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:50:58 GMT
 GOLD CROWNS WHOS??? GOLD

Quote:

> The preceding paragraph stating that a dentist figures in the value of
> the s{*filter*}gold is ludicrous!  What about the situation in which there is

Twenty-five years ago, when dental insurance was rather
uncommon, it was the usual practice to judge the cost of each
case on its own individual merits.  Difficult cases called for
a higher fee, and cases which required fewer resources were
priced at a lower fee.  Patients who had lower incomes were
often charged less than patients who drove Cadillacs.  In short,
every individual was treated as an individual.

Now, I suppose, it is common for dental offices to make
concessions to the power of insurance companies and other
third parties, and set a flat fee for each procedure, ignoring
the differences between individuals.  This practice eases the
administrative burdens of insurance companies, but it isn't
fair to the patient who has a simple crown and has to pay the
same as a patient who presents a very difficult crown case.

If a dentist derives some value from a patient in the form of
used dental gold, he ought to take that into account before
setting the fee to be charged.  All other factors being equal,
(and they're never equal in the real world, unfortunately),
that ought to be figured into the total fee.  But with the
insurance companies insisting on flat-rating everything they
can describe as a "procedure code," that sort of attention
to individual patient differences is rapidly disappearing.



Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:55:46 GMT
 
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