Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams 
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 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Joel Has NO proof of his Claims

>Date: 10/19/2004 5:26 PM Pacific Standard Time


>From: Adenosine
> Jan
>I see it is catching.
>Sorry, you are just another, non inerested party of the
>*I-don't-want-to-be-informed-attitude.
>Overlook the lies here and focus on *Jan*
>I'm just trying to help you out.

Oh???

Starting to lie now also???

Quote:
> I think that if you really think that
>the ends of amalgam removal are as important as you state, that you
>would try alternative, more effective methods of getting them out of
>the mouths of the public. You're tactics are not effective.

Well, no I have proven those I have helped.

<snip>

Quote:
>When I ask for the
>important scientific details of the studies you cite, you either don't
>have them or will not give them to me.

I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

<snip>

Quote:
>I see no benefits to
>amalgam removal for health reasons.

I guess you are blind.

Hg vapors? Toxicity of mercury? Mercury on the Mind? Low levels of mercury
Neuroloical effects?

See below

What ever gave you the idea I am interested in marketing?!?!

Cosmetics or UGLY???????

Good Grief, haven't you read my message???????

Improvements in health from removal of amalgams

http://www.***.com/

Studies have demonstrated that the removal of dental mercury amalgam fillings
can result in definitive and significant improvements in overall health
status.The Foundation for Toxic-Free Dentistry compiled data on 1,569 patients
from six different sources. Of particular interest in the FTFD analysis report
isthe fact that 14% of patients experienced some form of allergic symptomology
and that 89% reported that their condition had improved or was entirely
eliminated after removal of their silver/mercury dental amalgam
fillings.Systemic mercury toxicity appears to have a direct causal relationship
to the development of allergic sensitivity to foods, chemicals and other
environmental factors.

Extrapolating the FTFD data to the approximately 140 million individuals with
mercury dental amalgams in the U.S, there would be about 19.6million people
(14%) with mercury amalgam-related allergies, and, 89% or about17.4 million
people would experience the amelioration or disappearance of theirallergies by
simply having their silver/ mercury dental amalgam fillings replaced with
non-mercury, hypoallergenic composite dental fillings.

http://www.***.com/
uids=12534597&dopt=Abstract

http://www.***.com/
uids=11460087&dopt=AbstractAbstract:

We present a case of exercise-induced anaphylaxis with improvement following
the removal of dental amalgam. Although her symptoms were unresponsive to
various kinds of therapy until removal of the amalgam, her symptoms related to
exercise improved remarkably after the removal. The increase in plasma
histamine levels for exercise provocation test also improved. This suggests
that sensitivity to metals might cause exercise-induced asthma in some
patients.

Headache and backache responded best to treatment, but> > >all symptoms showed
considerable improvement on average. Of the respondents, 78% reported that they
were either satisfied or very satisfied with the results of treatment, and 9.5%
reported that they were disappointed.

http://www.***.com/ ~berniew1/index.html

I. DENTAL AMALGAM FILLINGS PAGE- documents high common mercury exposure levels
from dental amalgam fillings; and common adverse health effects on people and
dental staff; plus results of 60,000 clinical cases of significant improvements
to chronic conditions after amalgam replacement and treatment- as followed and
documented by doctors; plus environmental effects of amalgam that affect
everyone.
(over 1500 peer-reviewed medical study or Gov't Agency references documenting
mechanisms by which mercury from amalgam causes over 30
chronic health conditions)

http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/

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http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/ #V

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http://www.***.com/ #V

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Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:07:14 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:

>>When I ask for the
>>important scientific details of the studies you cite, you either don't
>>have them or will not give them to me.

>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be
listening to streaming drum and bass.

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:15:28 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

>Date: 10/19/2004 7:15 PM Pacific Standard Time


>>>When I ask for the
>>>important scientific details of the studies you cite, you either don't
>>>have them or will not give them to me.

>>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be
>listening to streaming drum and bass.

>Adenosine

IOW's you aren't interested.

Jan

Improvements in health from removal of amalgams

http://www.heart-disease-bypass-surgery.com/data/articles/63.htm

Studies have demonstrated that the removal of dental mercury amalgam fillings
can result in definitive and significant improvements in overall health
status.The Foundation for Toxic-Free Dentistry compiled data on 1,569 patients
from six different sources. Of particular interest in the FTFD analysis report
isthe fact that 14% of patients experienced some form of allergic symptomology
and that 89% reported that their condition had improved or was entirely
eliminated after removal of their silver/mercury dental amalgam
fillings.Systemic mercury toxicity appears to have a direct causal relationship
to the development of allergic sensitivity to foods, chemicals and other
environmental factors.

Extrapolating the FTFD data to the approximately 140 million individuals with
mercury dental amalgams in the U.S, there would be about 19.6million people
(14%) with mercury amalgam-related allergies, and, 89% or about17.4 million
people would experience the amelioration or disappearance of theirallergies by
simply having their silver/ mercury dental amalgam fillings replaced with
non-mercury, hypoallergenic composite dental fillings.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&...
uids=12534597&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&...
uids=11460087&dopt=AbstractAbstract:

We present a case of exercise-induced anaphylaxis with improvement following
the removal of dental amalgam. Although her symptoms were unresponsive to
various kinds of therapy until removal of the amalgam, her symptoms related to
exercise improved remarkably after the removal. The increase in plasma
histamine levels for exercise provocation test also improved. This suggests
that sensitivity to metals might cause exercise-induced asthma in some
patients.

Headache and backache responded best to treatment, but> > >all symptoms showed
considerable improvement on average. Of the respondents, 78% reported that they
were either satisfied or very satisfied with the results of treatment, and 9.5%
reported that they were disappointed.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/index.html

I. DENTAL AMALGAM FILLINGS PAGE- documents high common mercury exposure levels
from dental amalgam fillings; and common adverse health effects on people and
dental staff; plus results of 60,000 clinical cases of significant improvements
to chronic conditions after amalgam replacement and treatment- as followed and
documented by doctors; plus environmental effects of amalgam that affect
everyone.
(over 1500 peer-reviewed medical study or Gov't Agency references documenting
mechanisms by which mercury from amalgam causes over 30
chronic health conditions)

http://www.lichtenberg.dk/experience_after_amalgam_removal.htm

http://www.lichtenberg.dk/symptoms_before_and_after_proper.htm

http://www.rmdentalcentre.com/article.cfm?artid=4&catid=1

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentistry/burrow45.htm

http://www.notdoctors.com/mercfill.html

http://www.geocities.com/toothk/bernieref1.html

http://tinyurl.com/ywbo

http://www.web-light.nl/AMALGAM/EN/frame_r.html#V

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentist/crawford76.htm

http://www.cqs.com/amalgam.htm

http://www.web-light.nl/AMALGAM/EN/frame_r.html#V

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentist/crawford76.htm

http://www.cqs.com/amalgam.htm

http://www.web-light.nl/AMALGAM/EN/frame_r.html#V

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Dentist/crawford76.htm

http://www.cqs.com/amalgam.htm

http://www.testfoundation.org/amalgremove.htm



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:23:11 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:

> This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be
> listening to streaming drum and bass.

> Adenosine

How fast a connection do you have to have to listen to streaming music
w/o pops and breaks? I have a DSL here now, and I still get that to the
point where I've given up.
Thanks
SP
--
Not a real Addy, yet


Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:27:21 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

>>Date: 10/19/2004 7:15 PM Pacific Standard Time


>>>>When I ask for the
>>>>important scientific details of the studies you cite, you either don't
>>>>have them or will not give them to me.

>>>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>>>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

>>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be
>>listening to streaming drum and bass.

>>Adenosine

>IOW's you aren't interested.

>Jan

Of course I'm not interested! Alzheimer's is a disease that happens to
OTHER people, not me. You aren't going to win people to your side
making them watch videos that remind them of their high school biology
class!

There is no sizzle in your advertising, and it's a pain to figure out
if the steak exists! Nobody wants to watch boring videos prooving the
existence of the steak. If people in this country (USA) were worried
about their health, why would so many of them be overweight? If they
can't be bothered to go out and exercise and eat healthily, why are
they going to read boring studies and watch boring movies that could
improve their health?

You need to focus on the tangible immediatly noticable benefits of
amalgam removal. This is a society of here and now, you have to
provide the benefits that they want. Health is not a benefit they
want!

If the ends is important to you, you should try a new means.

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:44:26 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:


>> This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be
>> listening to streaming drum and bass.

>> Adenosine

>How fast a connection do you have to have to listen to streaming music
>w/o pops and breaks? I have a DSL here now, and I still get that to the
>point where I've given up.
>Thanks
>SP

I have a 512kbit connection. Usually I can listen to 96kbit stations
really well, and 128kbit stations if I set my buffer pretty high.

Who did you choose as your ISP, or do you have to use the telco?

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:45:43 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams
Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine



Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine



Quote:
>When I ask for the important scientific details of the studies you cite, you

either don't have them or will not give them to me.

I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

Quote:
>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be listening to

streaming drum and bass.

Adenosine

IOW's you aren't interested.

Jan

Quote:
>Of course I'm not interested!

Evidently.

Quote:
>Alzheimer's is a disease that happens to OTHER people, not me.
>You aren't going to win people to your side making them watch videos

Drop the word *making* you are getting carried away.

Quote:
>that remind them of their high school biology class!

Interesting.

Judging without watching.

Quote:
>There is no sizzle in your advertising

You are full of it.

Quote:
>Health is not a benefit they want!

Unreal.

IF* you have an unanswered health problem,,,,,,,,CHECK THE TEETH!

NOT by a mainstream dentist, but an Alt. dentist who KNOWS the dangers of
metalin the mouth and root canals, and follows correct protocol.

I did, it saved my life

.Mercury is Poisonous.There is NO safe form of Mercury in living tissue.The
mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other
sources together.

U151 identifies mercury as a toxic waste.Mercury is also recovered from
discarded products and wastes such aschlor-alkali wastes, dental amalgams,
fluorescent light tubes, electronicdevices, and others.

The mercury is vaporized in a retort and collected bycondensation. Condensed
mercury is then distilled to remove impurities.*

The Environmental Protection Agency is working to reduce the amount ofmercury
in the environment

http://www.***.com/

17. DENTAL AMALGAMDental amalgams are mixtures of mercury with silver tin
alloy. Cal-EPAregulates them as ***chemical waste.*** Submit Chemical Waste
Removal Form for its disposal.

====

Subject: Thanks to Jan,,,,

Quote:

>Date: 7/31/02 7:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time

>Hi to all,

>I wish to express gratitude to Jan for making me aware of Dental issues.
>I suffer from Rheumatoid Arthritis and have done so since 1994. Having this
>degenerative disease has forced changes on my lifestyle to a great extent
>since not being able to tolerate the medications that are often prescribed,
>My Doctor and Rheumatologist recommended that I find alternatives to
>medications which is why I frequent this Ng as well as others.
>Well I am happy to report that since early 1999  have I have not had to
>endure the agony of the previous five years and continue to make
>improvement.  One of the major improvements was the taking of CMO (Cetyl
>Myristoleate)
>I found that this "Alternative" returned my knees to normal and allowed me
>to continue working.
>The matter of Dental Health was also addressed during the past year and I,
>with consent of my Dentist, changed over a three month period. the majority
>of my fillings to what is called "Composites"

>I am happy to report that since that change that my feet and hands have
>improved noticeably and that I  suffer  less with the morning stiffness so
>often associated with Rheumatoid Arthritis.
>I still maintain mercury fillings however they have been reduced by over 50%
>WITH THE DENTAL CHANGES.
>Strangely other people that I correspond with have also noted an improvement
>in their well being since changing their amalgams to composites.

>So a sincere "Thank you Jan" for making me look at the issues regarding
>Dental Health. Believe me I have implemented these things "Aussie" Style
>and have enjoyed the benefit despite the "she'll be right" attitude of my
>Dentist. (Amalgam flying everywhere)

>Deniece and I are to shortly visit Canada and the US during the next eight
>weeks and I am most thankful of being able to make this trip, due to
>improved health.

>Incidentally I won the trip in a competition and it included the Canadian
>Rockies tour as well as the Alaskan cruise. Wow! so we extend it all to
>include Hawaii , North West USA and Hong Kong.

>So good things still happen which makes it all so much worthwhile.

>Many thanks Jan,

>Sincerely, Rod
>============================

>Jan - don't let them get you down.  You never know how many people you
>reach who don't say anything.
>You are so right - amalgams and root canals.  The cancer of
>dentistry.  Keep up the good work.  My
>compliments to you on your even tempered and thorough response.  Some
>people just don't want to
>learn because they know they will have to radically change their dental
>practice if they are convinced
>of the error of their ways.  And some people like bbb just scream about
>anything.  They will never learn.
>But others will - and you are reaching them.

>Good Work!
>=============================

>I have read a lot of your postings with great interest.  From other sources
>on
>the internet that I read, what you say is correct.  I am 58 years and have
>had
>4 root canals and about 6 crowns done on my teeth.  Now, one of the root
>canal/crowns is flaring up with an infection at the tip of the root.  First
>time in my life, something like this has happened.

>At my age, my teeth have started cracking.  In light of what has been
>researched and written, I see no reason to continue on with modern dentistry.

>I will get the tooth pulled.  The idea is to not have any more root canals or
>crowns.  Just start pulling and in the years ahead, get false teeth.  When I
>run out of enough natural teeth.

>You were very brave to do your postings on the internet.  I commend you for
>them.

>===========================
>Subject: Kudos to Jan Drew

>Date: 11/12/02 9:57 AM US Eastern Standard Time

>Long time lurker, first time poster.

>I have watched with amu{*filter*}t the idiocy of the dentists here on
>this NG, especially Joel, who attack Jan, and ignore her postings.
>The power of "groupthink" is quite amazing when viewing it from
>the outside as an unbiased observer.

>It is particularly amusing how powerful bias can be, when a group
>cannot recognize that something that is hazardous waste by the
>EPA's definition, is ok in the mouth. This should at least open
>one's mind to the *possibility* that amalgams are hazardous in
>*some* (not all) people. But noooooooo, the supposedly educated
>dental professionals here are all-knowing.

>I am a well educated, reasonable person, with a background in
>statistics. I had my amalgams out, and yes, it did cure several
>lifelong, chronic health conditions. It was *not* easy, and in
>fact, is probably a risky procedure, since you do expose yourself
>to lots of Hg upon removal. The detox has taken a long time, and
>has been extremely unpleasant.

>Re: Rich's postings - it is possible that some of Jan's improvement
>was due to placebo. Heck, I felt better immediately after my amalgam
>removal. That quickly changed as the Hg flooded into my body. Even
>if Jan had some improvement due to placebo, that doesn't preclude
>her from having Hg poisoning.

>Re: Joel - this guy is an idiot. His posts do nothing for the credibility
>of the "pro amalgam" side. I don't think he could handle a real debate.
>All he does is post stupid articles and one-liners - what a dolt !

>So Jan, keep up the good work, fight the good fight. Time will prove
>us correct. Don't give up. It's tough, and usually lonely, being on the
>cutting edge, and going against the conventional wisdom

>===============================
>> Lance,

>> Kudos to you for trying to argue with this crowd.  Last year I posted
>> some questions here and was promptly attacked by the usual suspects.  I
>> was surprised by their nastiness for a while, but a dentist I met at the
>> chelation clinic explained how scared the dentists are regarding this
>> issue.  Essentially those who attack you have one single objective:
>> cover their gluteus max.  They know they will be sued the hell out of
>> them soon, and are trying their obnoxious best to delay the inevitable.

>> I had 17-year slow downward spiral that was only stopped last year by
>> taking out amalgam fillings and going through chelation therapy.  Only
>> now, after over a year of treatment, I feel physically well enough to do
>> some garden work and mentally well enough to work on math (current
>> study: stochastic differential equations).  Short-term memory is also
>> recovering and I don't feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone
>> episodes anymore.

>> Don't let these bozos annoy you, they just cannot help being themselves
>> when it comes their wallet.

>> qborba

>P.S. And of course Kudos to Jan Drew.  She did more service to
>> Hg-poisoned people than anyone else I know.
>============================
>Hi Jan

>Ive been reading some of your posts on alternative med support and now the
>dental site.  I'll spare you my long story but ive had horrendous bilateral
>leg
>neuropathy from what I believe is Hg poisoning.  Have had amalgams removed
>and
>done DMPS chelation with much improvement.  Still have a ways to go but im
>getting there.  Keep up the fight!

>And I have received a few others, and  was asked not to post them as the
>poster
>didn't wish to be harassed by the dentists here.

>This one I

...

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Sun, 08 Apr 2007 12:44:06 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine



>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine



>>When I ask for the important scientific details of the studies you cite, you
>either don't have them or will not give them to me.

>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

>>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be listening to
>streaming drum and bass.

>Adenosine

>IOW's you aren't interested.

>Jan

>>Of course I'm not interested!

>Evidently.

>>Alzheimer's is a disease that happens to OTHER people, not me.

>>You aren't going to win people to your side making them watch videos

>Drop the word *making* you are getting carried away.

>>that remind them of their high school biology class!

>Interesting.

>Judging without watching.

I did watch it! Nice little video, indeed.

But I don't like how my arch-rival guanine managed to steal the show!!

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 12:53:48 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

>Date: 10/19/2004 8:53 PM Pacific Standard Time


>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine

>Message-id:


>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine

>Message-id:


>>>When I ask for the important scientific details of the studies you cite,
>you
>>either don't have them or will not give them to me.

>>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

>>>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be listening to
>>streaming drum and bass.

>>Adenosine

>>IOW's you aren't interested.

>>Jan

>>>Of course I'm not interested!

>>Evidently.

>>>Alzheimer's is a disease that happens to OTHER people, not me.

>>>You aren't going to win people to your side making them watch videos

>>Drop the word *making* you are getting carried away.

>>>that remind them of their high school biology class!

>>Interesting.

>>Judging without watching.

>I did watch it! Nice little video, indeed.

What did you learn?

<Irrelevant snipped>

Jan



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:10:43 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

>>Date: 10/19/2004 8:53 PM Pacific Standard Time


>>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine

>>Message-id:


>>>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From: Adenosine

>>Message-id:


>>>>When I ask for the important scientific details of the studies you cite,
>>you
>>>either don't have them or will not give them to me.

>>>I gave you my answers, if you need more, you can find them on your own.

>>>I asked you to watch the video, and get back, did you??

>>>>This video better be pretty damn awesome because I -COULD- be listening to
>>>streaming drum and bass.

>>>Adenosine

>>>IOW's you aren't interested.

>>>Jan

>>>>Of course I'm not interested!

>>>Evidently.

>>>>Alzheimer's is a disease that happens to OTHER people, not me.

>>>>You aren't going to win people to your side making them watch videos

>>>Drop the word *making* you are getting carried away.

>>>>that remind them of their high school biology class!

>>>Interesting.

>>>Judging without watching.

>>I did watch it! Nice little video, indeed.

>What did you learn?

><Irrelevant snipped>

>Jan

That if you have neurons in a petri dish and you give them mercury,
they don't like it. Still was pretty boring.

You should create some better, more entertaining promotional material.

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:37:48 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Well, no I have proven those I have helped.

><snip>

>>When I ask for the

This is true. Most of the Break Dancing people only could after they
got their mercury fillings removed.

Joel



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:20:41 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams From:

de-NILE


Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:21:29 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:

> I have a 512kbit connection. Usually I can listen to 96kbit stations
> really well, and 128kbit stations if I set my buffer pretty high.

> Who did you choose as your ISP, or do you have to use the telco?

> Adenosine

You have hi velocity internet. I have Sympatico (Ma Bell) b/cs they sold
me a DSL connection at the same price as the dial-up I had b/4. However,
it is only 160kbit at best, and unless I'm not listening to the right
sites, it doesn't come in well.
Thanks
SP
--
Not a real Addy, yet


Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:23:59 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams

Quote:


>> I have a 512kbit connection. Usually I can listen to 96kbit stations
>> really well, and 128kbit stations if I set my buffer pretty high.

>> Who did you choose as your ISP, or do you have to use the telco?

>> Adenosine

>You have hi velocity internet. I have Sympatico (Ma Bell) b/cs they sold
>me a DSL connection at the same price as the dial-up I had b/4. However,
>it is only 160kbit at best, and unless I'm not listening to the right
>sites, it doesn't come in well.
>Thanks
>SP

160kbit at best? That's pretty awful!

Do you live a long ways away from the central office or what, because
you could get almost that much bandwidth out of an ISDN connection! Do
they have cable internet where you are at?

I'm really spoiled, especially at work where we have fiber coming into
the building. It's like being on a local network with the Internet!

Adenosine



Sun, 08 Apr 2007 23:49:16 GMT
 Health IMPROVEMENTS From Removal Of Amalgams


Quote:
> >>I did watch it! Nice little video, indeed.

> >What did you learn?

> ><Irrelevant snipped>

> >Jan

> That if you have neurons in a petri dish and you give them mercury,
> they don't like it. Still was pretty boring.

> You should create some better, more entertaining promotional material.

> Adenosine

Geez...is Jan still pushing that same video?

2 years ago I explained to her why that is questionable information, which I see
she continues to ignore.

http://www.***.com/


Subject: Re: Amalgam / Mercury Dental Filling Toxicity
View: Complete Thread (28 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Date: 2002-10-04 07:06:17 PST


Quote:
> >Perhaps...if your neurons are derived from a snail, put in a petri
> >dish, cultured, and then you expose the neuron growth cone to Hg
> >ions...there might be some concern if you are a cultured snail neuron
> >in a University of Calgary laboratory.

> Yep, only snails such be concerned!!

> Oh the outrageous no limits of denial.

> Jan

In my mind, it is easy to see reasons to be skeptical....

The researchers involved in this study, or at least one, has a track record
of using inappropriate models in his studies. That does not necessarily
make them invalid, but would lead most to have some reservations about
subsequent studies...

http://www.***.com/

While all neurons share many characteristics and qualities, snail neurons
do not function in exactly the same manner as human neurons. There are
different factors that make them good study models in a lab, but that also
make it essential to understand that what is seem in snail neurons, may not
necessarily occur in other test models. It is offhandedly mentioned that
all neurons share similar traits, but that does not make the results of
this study universally transferable.

Another concern is the fact that while the neurologic symptoms and signs of
other types of heavy metal poisoning are virtually identical to those
reported with mercury poisoning, the research indicates only mercury
affected the neurons in this manner.

Some reported signs of mercury poisoning:

Irritability, Nervousness, Fits of Anger, Memory Loss, Lack of Attention,
Depression, Low Self Confidence, Anxiety, Drowsiness, Shyness/timidity,
Decline of Intellect, Insomnia, Low Self Control.

Some reported signs of lead poisoning:

lower IQs, headaches , memory problems, reduced coordination, learning
disabilities, irritability, hyperactivity, increased sleeping, decreased
activity and fatigue, hearing loss, vomiting, slow reflexes, muscle
weakness, affecting mainly the upper extremities, seizures, coma,
hypertension in high levels

These symptoms would seem remarkably similar, suggesting that both metals
are having a similar effect on the nervous system, yet the Calgary research
showed no evidence of neuron degeneration associated with a direct
application of lead ions. One might then conclude that the scene shown in
the video may not mean what the researchers say it does. If other metals do
not produce this same neural breakdown, yet have the same neurologic
effects, perhaps what we are seeing does not represent the true
degenerative effect of heavy metal poisoning. Perhaps it is more a function
of applying something to nerve endings in a manner it would not normally be
present. What would happen if we subjected these nerve endings to a direct
exposure of sugar, or salt, or other common and benign substances?

Another concern, which again does not necessarily invalidate the results,
but would lead most to wonder is the fact the funding for this study came
from. The video was funded by the IAOMT.

As I noted before, the IAOMT web site says the "International Academy of
{*filter*}Medicine and Toxicology, a Canadian non-profit charitable organization
dedicated to research and education. The IAOMT's corporate center is in
Canada, but send all mail to its Executive Director, Michael Ziff, D.D.S,
at P.O. Box 608531, Orlando, FL, 32860-8531".

If you go to the IAOMT web site, and click on "contact Michael Ziff" his

Bioprobe is most definitely a FOR profit organization that stands to make a
nice profit on the sale of materials that are supported by research
completed by an organization headed by someone who is both executive
director of the Non-profit end and would also seem to be somehow intimately
involved in the profit end.

Now lets be honest here, if I presented a study saying amalgam was 100%
safe, and this study at Whatsamatta U. had been funded by the SSFA (Secret
Society for Amalgam), and it was learned that the director of this society
was the principle in Amalgamated Amalgam Inc. wouldn't you hasten to point
out how this may lead to some prejudice? Wouldn't you also have
reservations about the true objective in the study. I think anyone would
and should.

You call it denial, I call it rational scientific skepticism. To the
shortsighted these may seem to be the same, but I assure you they are not.

Just some cooking.net">food for thought.

T



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