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saturda
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 Crowns vs Orthodontia? My dentist has given me the choice or orthoddontics or crowns to straighten
my teeth. I don't know the exact terminology but I'd say the correction
needed is not severe.
Cost is not at issue due to special circumstances. I like the idea of
Crowns becuase the entire process is done in just one or two settings
instead of over months and months. This is also what my dentist reccomends.
Are there limitations to what orthodontics can do on {*filter*}s (I'm a 34 year
old male)
Also I'm wondering if there are any drawbacks to Crowns over keeping
everything natural.
Thanks,
Gary
PS: I appologize if this is an inappropriate question for this group.
Usually I make a point to read groups for a while before posting - but I
need to decide this pretty quickly.
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| Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:16:28 GMT |
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Joel_Eiche
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
Quote: > My dentist has given me the choice or orthoddontics or crowns to
straighten
> my teeth. I don't know the exact terminology but I'd say the correction
> needed is not severe.
> Cost is not at issue due to special circumstances. I like the idea of
> Crowns becuase the entire process is done in just one or two settings
> instead of over months and months. This is also what my dentist
reccomends. Bleeccchhh! No good unless your teeth are already shot!
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Quote: > Are there limitations to what orthodontics can do on {*filter*}s (I'm a 34 year
> old male)
> Also I'm wondering if there are any drawbacks to Crowns over keeping
> everything natural.
> Thanks,
> Gary
> PS: I appologize if this is an inappropriate question for this group.
Nope, it is a cool question ..... Quote: > Usually I make a point to read groups for a while before posting -
Why? None of us read the posts either. but I
Quote: > need to decide this pretty quickly.
Cool.
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| Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:01:36 GMT |
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BBlock
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: > to Crowns over keeping
>everything natural.
i went the crown route upon my dentist's recommendation....would i do it again...absolutely NOT! stick w/the originals.
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| Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:29 GMT |
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Mrsral
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: >i went the crown route upon my dentist's recommendation....would i do it
>again...absolutely NOT! stick w/the originals.
I agree. Natural teeth - no matter if they're crooked, yellow, whatever - are always a million times better. B-I know you've replied to post about crowns before. Were all yours put in for orthodontia vs. decay?
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:14:06 GMT |
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Joel_Eiche
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
Quote: > >i went the crown route upon my dentist's recommendation....would i do it > >again...absolutely NOT! stick w/the originals. > I agree. Natural teeth - no matter if they're crooked, yellow, whatever -
are
> always a million times better.
> B-I know you've replied to post about crowns before. Were all yours put in
for
> orthodontia vs. decay?
******* Possible problems with crowns:
1. Periodontal tissue is rarely as harmonious as it is with natural
structures.
2. Contacts - almost impossible for technicians to reproduce the beautiful
'ogee' curve that is present in the interproximal surfaces of teeth.
3. Marginal ridges may not reproduce natural structures.
4. Hardness factor - forces are transmitted down through the crown into the
alveolus. Natural teeth have an unreproducible modulus of elasticity.
5. Skill of the doctor ...
6. Skill of the technician .....
Still, when we need to do crowns we do them. However, with beautiful natural
teeth, I can't go along with it!
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 03:47:10 GMT |
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Lars
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
.de...
Quote:
> > >i went the crown route upon my dentist's recommendation....would i do
it
> > >again...absolutely NOT! stick w/the originals.
> > I agree. Natural teeth - no matter if they're crooked, yellow,
whatever -
> are
> > always a million times better.
> > B-I know you've replied to post about crowns before. Were all yours put
in
> for
> > orthodontia vs. decay?
> *******
> Possible problems with crowns:
> 1. Periodontal tissue is rarely as harmonious as it is with natural
> structures.
> 2. Contacts - almost impossible for technicians to reproduce the beautiful
> 'ogee' curve that is present in the interproximal surfaces of teeth.
> 3. Marginal ridges may not reproduce natural structures.
> 4. Hardness factor - forces are transmitted down through the crown into
the
> alveolus. Natural teeth have an unreproducible modulus of elasticity.
> 5. Skill of the doctor ...
> 6. Skill of the technician .....
> Still, when we need to do crowns we do them. However, with beautiful
natural
> teeth, I can't go along with it!
> Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
Agree on that. Crowns can't compare with real teeth's. The best craftsmen there is can at best come very close on the esthetic comparison, and with the best I mean the cream of the cream in the world. This doesn't mean that the average lab make bad looking artificial teeth's. If the teeth's need to be moved to improve they have to be moved, crowns don't move teeth's but the shape can be altered. If one try to model the crowns so it looks like they are positioned elsewhere there is a risk that they will look clumsy an unnatural. Lars
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:36:40 GMT |
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Mrsral
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: >4. Hardness factor - forces are transmitted down through the crown into the
>alveolus. Natu
What's the alveolus? WHat happens when forces are transmitted down into it?
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:53:32 GMT |
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BBlock
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: >B-I know you've replied to post about crowns before. Were all yours put in
>for
>orthodontia vs. decay?
few teeth had filings and dentist recommended crowns on those and then suggested crowns on the other teeth for a "hollywood looking" smile. i was 20 yrs. old at the time and went w/my dentists recommendation-i was too deficient in worldly wisdom at the time.
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:03:32 GMT |
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Mrsral
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: >few teeth had filings and dentist recommended crowns on those and then
>suggested crowns on the other teeth for a "hollywood looking" smile. i was
>20
>yrs. old at the time and went w/my dentists recommendation-i was too
>deficient
>in worldly wisdom at the time.
Also I think it's a relatively new phenomenon where people think about what a dr. recommends rather than just going ahead with it.
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:13:18 GMT |
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Joel_Eiche
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
Quote: > >4. Hardness factor - forces are transmitted down through the crown into the > >alveolus. Natu > What's the alveolus?
Jawbone. What happens when forces are transmitted down into it?
Not in all cases, only in some where the patient chews very vigorously and
the periodontal (connecting) tissues are also at risk. The forces applied to
the metal plus porcelain crown end up further loosening the tooth in its
socket!
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| Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:55:01 GMT |
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saturda
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Just want to thank you all for the kind responces and information. It seems
pretty clear that to grind down and crown perfectly healthy teeth is a big
mistake. I'm not too happy that the Dr. didn't explain any of the downsides
of this option.
Thanks!
Gary
Quote: > My dentist has given me the choice or orthoddontics or crowns to
straighten
> my teeth. I don't know the exact terminology but I'd say the correction
> needed is not severe.
> Cost is not at issue due to special circumstances. I like the idea of
> Crowns becuase the entire process is done in just one or two settings
> instead of over months and months. This is also what my dentist
reccomends.
> Are there limitations to what orthodontics can do on {*filter*}s (I'm a 34 year
> old male)
> Also I'm wondering if there are any drawbacks to Crowns over keeping
> everything natural.
> Thanks,
> Gary
> PS: I appologize if this is an inappropriate question for this group.
> Usually I make a point to read groups for a while before posting - but I
> need to decide this pretty quickly.
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| Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:48:27 GMT |
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Wally Davi
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
Quote: >>Just want to thank you all for the kind responces and information. It seems
>>pretty clear that to grind down and crown perfectly healthy teeth is a big
>>mistake. I'm not too happy that the Dr. didn't explain any of the downsides
>>of this option.
>>Thanks!
>>Gary
Gary, Please be aware there are possible down sides to orthodontia also.
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| Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:01:52 GMT |
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BBlock
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Crowns vs Orthodontia? Quote: >Also I think it's a relatively new phenomenon where people think about what a
>dr. recommends rather than just going ahead with it.
yes, true in my case. i question everything and get several opinions (get good info--along w/some humor--from scimeddentistry group), and then question some more. we all learn this way including the dentists.
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| Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:27:12 GMT |
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Gary Warne
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Crowns vs Orthodontia?
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> Gary,
> Please be aware there are possible down sides to orthodontia also.
Wally, Can you elaborate at all?
Thanks!
Gary
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| Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:36:29 GMT |
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