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emm
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 Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site. If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual: what are advantages/disadvantages of both? which one is preferable? are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic cleaning? Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental hygienist? Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office? Thanks all.
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 11:46:56 GMT |
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Shad J. Lewis, DMD, M
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning --
Shad Lewis
www.WyomissingSmiles.com
Quote: > Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
> If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
> what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
It depends on the person - if they're sensitive to ultrasonics, they get hand instruments. Personally, I believe ultrasonics do a far better job. Quote: > which one is preferable?
> are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
> cleaning?
No. Quote: > Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental
> hygienist?
Depends on the practice. It really doesn't matter, as long as they're competent. Quote: > Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office?
I do because I don't have a hygienist, yet. Quote:
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 12:55:18 GMT |
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Lind
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning I agree with Dr. Shad. Linda (hygienist)
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> Shad Lewis
> www.WyomissingSmiles.com
> > Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
> > If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
> > what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
> It depends on the person - if they're sensitive to ultrasonics, they get
> hand instruments. Personally, I believe ultrasonics do a far better job.
> > which one is preferable?
> > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
> > cleaning?
> No.
> > Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental
> > hygienist?
> Depends on the practice. It really doesn't matter, as long as they're
> competent.
> > Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office?
> I do because I don't have a hygienist, yet.
> > Thanks all.
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 13:28:07 GMT |
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Joel M. Eiche
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning
Quote: >Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
>If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
> what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
For manual, the brushes are cheaper. Quote: > which one is preferable? > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic cleaning? >Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental hygienist? >Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office? >Thanks all.
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 20:42:34 GMT |
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Dr Stev
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Research supports both techniques as being equal in getting the teeth clean for average mouths. For advanced cases, research says ultrasonic first, then manual is better. --
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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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>>Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
>>If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
>> what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
> For manual, the brushes are cheaper.
>> which one is preferable?
>> are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
>> cleaning?
>>Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental
>>hygienist?
>>Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office?
>>Thanks all.
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 21:27:55 GMT |
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Dr Stev
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Preferable (for advanced periodontal conditions) is to use both. --
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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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Quote: > Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site. > If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual: > what are advantages/disadvantages of both? > which one is preferable? > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic > cleaning? > Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental > hygienist? > Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office? > Thanks all.
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| Sun, 06 May 2007 21:26:30 GMT |
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Lets Conne
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning
Quote: > > Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
> > If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
> > what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
> > which one is preferable?
> > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
> > cleaning?
Not a dentist, and not respected either, but generally speaking, ultrasonic is better for removing gross debris (and more comfortable for the patient), while manual is better for fine stuff. I've read that ultrasonic scalers, if used at the margins of porcelain or composite cosmetic work, can chip the margins and perhaps leave the tooth more susceptible to decay, but couldn't find any evidence to support this claim.
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| Mon, 07 May 2007 10:46:37 GMT |
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Lind
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning I should be more clear ... I think ultrasonics are the best for removing the big stuff. It would be so hard to do an initial case without ultrasonics. But I also believe that the best overall job is done with both ultrasonic and manual instruments. Linda.
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> >Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
> >If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
> > what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
> Ultrasonic is faster but must be used in conjunction with hand
instrumentation.
> > which one is preferable?
> Using both.
> > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
cleaning?
> No, not really.
> >Also, who in your opinion should do the cleaning: dentist or dental
hygienist?
> Don't have a hygienist, I do it myself.
> Routine cleanings ok for RDH.
> Periodontal therapy depends on the ability of the RDH.
> (scaling and root planing)
> Perio surgery, dentist only.
> >Who is doing cleaning (dental :)) in your office?
> Me.
> >Thanks all.
> --
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
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| Mon, 07 May 2007 11:35:23 GMT |
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Steven Bornfel
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Quote:
>>Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site. >>>>If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
>>>>what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
>>>>which one is preferable?
>>>>are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
>>>>cleaning?
> Each has it's place. As with anything else, there is a continum of
> effectiveness when discussin ultrasonic scalers. A USI scaler can handle
> inserts (tips) that are as fine as a periodontal probe. They are awesome at
> all levels of debridement. A Bobcat is great for removing gross hard deposits.
> Patients find them uncomfortable.
> Regarding margins of restorations I have to say that I've never seen a problem.
> Which is not to say that there isn't one. Research may prove different. Most
> clinicians are competent at using one.
> For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in practice
> there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
You think? There are plenty of dentists who cannot or choose not to employ a hygienist. I don't know one who does not use an ultrasonic scaler. Steve
Hygienists study the ultrasonic and
Quote: > how to use it for more hours in college than a dentist. > Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
> "Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
> - P. J. O'Rourke
> ~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sat, 12 May 2007 21:49:54 GMT |
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Shirley Gutkowski R
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Quote: > You think? There are plenty of dentists who cannot or choose not to >employ a hygienist. I don't know one who does not use an ultrasonic scaler. >Steve
I believe we travel in different circles. I stand by my comment: Quote: >> For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in
>practice
>> there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH "Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes." - P. J. O'Rourke ~~~~~~~~~ http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sun, 13 May 2007 20:47:54 GMT |
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Steven Bornfel
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Quote:
> I believe we travel in different circles. I stand by my comment:
>>>For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in
>>practice
>>>there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
OK! Steve
Quote: > Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
> "Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
> - P. J. O'Rourke
> ~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sun, 13 May 2007 21:56:37 GMT |
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Steven Fawk
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning In a 40 mile circle around me, there aren't even 10 hygienists working
(probably not even 3, but I didn't want to exagerate).
Your comment might be true in suburbia, but it isn't true in rural
America. There are *very few* dentists who can find a hygienist.
;-)
Fawks
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>> You think? There are plenty of dentists who cannot or choose not to >>employ a hygienist. I don't know one who does not use an ultrasonic scaler. >>Steve
> I believe we travel in different circles. I stand by my comment:
>>>For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in
>>practice
>>>there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
> Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
> "Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
> - P. J. O'Rourke
> ~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sun, 13 May 2007 22:27:50 GMT |
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Shirley Gutkowski R
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning Quote: > Here is a question to all the respected dentist on this site.
>> > If you compare ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual:
>> > what are advantages/disadvantages of both?
>> > which one is preferable?
>> > are there any dangers for tooth enamel, restorations from ultrasonic
>> > cleaning?
Each has it's place. As with anything else, there is a continum of effectiveness when discussin ultrasonic scalers. A USI scaler can handle inserts (tips) that are as fine as a periodontal probe. They are awesome at all levels of debridement. A Bobcat is great for removing gross hard deposits. Patients find them uncomfortable. Regarding margins of restorations I have to say that I've never seen a problem. Which is not to say that there isn't one. Research may prove different. Most clinicians are competent at using one. For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in practice
there are probably 25 or more hygienists. Hygienists study the ultrasonic and
how to use it for more hours in college than a dentist.
Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
- P. J. O'Rourke
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http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sat, 12 May 2007 21:36:11 GMT |
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Joel M. Eiche
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:27:50 GMT, Steven Fawks Quote:
>In a 40 mile circle around me, there aren't even 10 hygienists working
>(probably not even 3, but I didn't want to exagerate).
>Your comment might be true in suburbia, but it isn't true in rural
>America. There are *very few* dentists who can find a hygienist.
>;-)
>Fawks
So how come there is no huge outcry and little discussion? This is why things do not change.
Some dentists have three hygienists, make oodles of money from the
operation, and WANT the majority of the other dentists to do without.
Joel
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>>> You think? There are plenty of dentists who cannot or choose not to
>>>employ a hygienist. I don't know one who does not use an ultrasonic scaler.
>>>Steve
>> I believe we travel in different circles. I stand by my comment:
>>>>For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in
>>>practice
>>>>there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
>> Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
>> "Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
>> - P. J. O'Rourke
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>> http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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| Sun, 13 May 2007 22:50:23 GMT |
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Steven Fawk
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Ultrasonic cleaning vs. manual cleaning In some circles it is quite a hot topic. I have tried to get some
interest from high school kids to look at hygiene as a carreer option,
but I have had no luck. The hygiene school at UMKC graduates about 20 a
year while graduating about 80 dentists. You do the math.
Kansas has already adopted a 'new category' for trained certified
assistants to remove supragingival calculus, which should go a long way
to help with routine cleanings.
Missouri is likely to follow suit shortly.
Fawks
Quote: >>In a 40 mile circle around me, there aren't even 10 hygienists working >>(probably not even 3, but I didn't want to exagerate). >>Your comment might be true in suburbia, but it isn't true in rural
>>America. There are *very few* dentists who can find a hygienist.
>>;-)
>>Fawks
> So how come there is no huge outcry and little discussion?
> This is why things do not change.
> Some dentists have three hygienists, make oodles of money from the
> operation, and WANT the majority of the other dentists to do without.
> Joel
>>>> You think? There are plenty of dentists who cannot or choose not to
>>>>employ a hygienist. I don't know one who does not use an ultrasonic scaler.
>>>>Steve
>>>I believe we travel in different circles. I stand by my comment:
>>>>>For the record for every one dentist that uses an ultrasonic scaler in
>>>>practice
>>>>>there are probably 25 or more hygienists.
>>>Shirley Gutkowski, RDH, BSDH
>>>"Everbody wants to save the earth - nobody wants to help Mom to do the dishes."
>>> - P. J. O'Rourke
>>>~~~~~~~~~
>>>http://www.dentistry.com/poralhealth_02.asp
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