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Dear colleagues:

  This newsgroup was 'fun' for a while and I have had my long absences. I
have recently picked up some mails that disturb me. This group might have
started out in a pristene manner but it now takes all manner of BS from the
'less than well informed' and those idiotic posts become the fodder for
continuing debate. I'm gonna go watch Ophra for some real substance.

 And a classmate of mine recently quit because he was too good, too
qualified and mostly too honest for this group. He is Michael Herndon. I
know that guy from dental school,  and he is maybe too honest for this
group. Now I have aged into that same state of honesty.

  Both Mike Herndon and Mike Garrity will visit from time to time to see
what is being fomented, but I doubt either one of us will see anything of
substance to keep us here for more than a parting shot.

 In that the group has done extremely well (pfffhg) without us, I doubt we
will be missed. My input might have been fluffy, but Michael Herndon's would
have knocked your socks off. His accomplishments and efforts make me want to
become better myself. And I had the exact same teachers (undergrad) that
Herndon had. But he took it to a much higher plane of both expertise and
ethics. (Yes, I know that those latter terms are 'relative'. Relative to
your training, practice, experience and personal code.)

Michael



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:58:03 GMT
 I am out!!!!!
Don't leave! THis newsgroup needs to get back to the good ol' days of patients
asking questions and dentists answering them, rather than all this biased
bashing. If you leave, other dentists'll leave, and there goes the newsgroup.
Please stick around. This place used to be soooo informative.


Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:07:43 GMT
 I am out!!!!!
after reading your daring diagnosis of Ms Drew ... seems like a wise move.
your license might be at stake.


Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:18:15 GMT
 I am out!!!!!


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 I am out!!!!!
Did it ever occur to any of the folks showing up and dentist-bashing that the
reason this group had existed for so long was that it was a decent place for
patients to ask questions and get thoughtful answers?
That if you had started some kind of other newsgroup with your views, people
who were interested would show up there?
You could have had a little thoughtfulness towards other people than yourself
(the other patients).
Maybe the anti-amalgam folk will turn out to be right. I doubt  most of the
people who visit here (dentists and people with chronic dental needs, like me)
would have been averse to thoughtful, respectful presentations. But since
scimeddentistry is like a "virtual dentists office" did you think all this
attacking would do anything but disrupt what the patients visiting it were
seeking?


Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:26:33 GMT
 I am out!!!!!


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 I am out!!!!!

Quote:

>Date: 4/25/01 7:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time

>after reading your daring diagnosis of Ms Drew ... seems like a wise move.
>your license might be at stake.

Did I miss something here? I think you have him mixed up with someone else.

Maybe Dr Karen Anderson?

Jan



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:44:35 GMT
 I am out!!!!!


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 I am out!!!!!

Quote:

>Date: 4/25/01 7:26 PM US Eastern Standard Time

>Did it ever occur to any of the folks showing up and dentist-bashing that the
>reason this group had existed for so long was that it was a decent place for
>patients to ask questions and get thoughtful answers?
>That if you had started some kind of other newsgroup with your views, people
>who were interested would show up there?
>You could have had a little thoughtfulness towards other people than yourself
>(the other patients).
>Maybe the anti-amalgam folk will turn out to be right. I doubt  most of the
>people who visit here (dentists and people with chronic dental needs, like
>me)
>would have been averse to thoughtful, respectful presentations. But since
>scimeddentistry is like a "virtual dentists office" did you think all this
>attacking would do anything but disrupt what the patients visiting it were
>seeking?

I think this is very fair and to the point.

I notice that Joel isn't here. Very unusual. Not that I miss the majority of
his posts which are obsessive, but I do wonder if he is OK? Anyone know?

Jan



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:47:42 GMT
 I am out!!!!!


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 I am out!!!!!


**>Date: 4/25/01 7:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time

**>
**>after reading your daring diagnosis of Ms Drew ... seems like a wise move.
**>your license might be at stake.
**
**Did I miss something here? I think you have him mixed up with someone else.
**
**Maybe Dr Karen Anderson?
**
**Jan

nope ... garrity


**Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
**Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:34:21 GMT

**
**Jan,
**
** From that post regarding the young child with the mild inflammation around
**some stainless steel crowns, I find you to be certifiable and fully a
**candidate for Electoro-shock-therapy. The only problem is we don't perform
**electro-shock-therapy these days. But I still believe you are a candidate
**for the outdated procedure:
**
**     "A little dab' ll  do  ya"  (Jack Nicholson)



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:57:45 GMT
 I am out!!!!!

Quote:

>Date: 4/25/01 8:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time




>**>Date: 4/25/01 7:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time

>**>
>**>after reading your daring diagnosis of Ms Drew ... seems like a wise move.
>**>your license might be at stake.
>**
>**Did I miss something here? I think you have him mixed up with someone else.
>**
>**Maybe Dr Karen Anderson?
>**
>**Jan

>nope ... garrity


>**Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
>**Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:34:21 GMT

>**
>**Jan,
>**
>** From that post regarding the young child with the mild inflammation around
>**some stainless steel crowns, I find you to be certifiable and fully a
>**candidate for Electoro-shock-therapy. The only problem is we don't perform
>**electro-shock-therapy these days. But I still believe you are a candidate
>**for the outdated procedure:
>**
>**     "A little dab' ll  do  ya"  (Jack Nicholson)

I guess I did miss that post. Looks like I didn't miss much...........

I guess he thinks it is fine to fill a 2 year olds mouth with metal. I find
that insane.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Jan



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:25:57 GMT
 I am out!!!!!
Michael--

    Please come back soon--you will be missed.

Steve

Quote:

> Dear colleagues:

>   This newsgroup was 'fun' for a while and I have had my long absences. I
> have recently picked up some mails that disturb me. This group might have
> started out in a pristene manner but it now takes all manner of BS from the
> 'less than well informed' and those idiotic posts become the fodder for
> continuing debate. I'm gonna go watch Ophra for some real substance.

>  And a classmate of mine recently quit because he was too good, too
> qualified and mostly too honest for this group. He is Michael Herndon. I
> know that guy from dental school,  and he is maybe too honest for this
> group. Now I have aged into that same state of honesty.

>   Both Mike Herndon and Mike Garrity will visit from time to time to see
> what is being fomented, but I doubt either one of us will see anything of
> substance to keep us here for more than a parting shot.

>  In that the group has done extremely well (pfffhg) without us, I doubt we
> will be missed. My input might have been fluffy, but Michael Herndon's would
> have knocked your socks off. His accomplishments and efforts make me want to
> become better myself. And I had the exact same teachers (undergrad) that
> Herndon had. But he took it to a much higher plane of both expertise and
> ethics. (Yes, I know that those latter terms are 'relative'. Relative to
> your training, practice, experience and personal code.)

> Michael



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:53:21 GMT
 I am out!!!!!

**I guess I did miss that post. Looks like I didn't miss much...........
**
**I guess he thinks it is fine to fill a 2 year olds mouth with metal. I find
**that insane.
**
**Thanks for clearing that up.
**
**Jan

amazing ... these Divine Dental Surgeons are out of control with their
egos ... think Joel's blew up and that's why he's been missing for around
48 hours ? ? ?



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:15:22 GMT
 I am out!!!!!



Quote:
> Dear colleagues:

>   This newsgroup was 'fun' for a while and I have had my long absences. I
> have recently picked up some mails that disturb me. This group might have
> started out in a pristene manner but it now takes all manner of BS from
the
> 'less than well informed' and those idiotic posts become the fodder for
> continuing debate. I'm gonna go watch Ophra for some real substance.

>  And a classmate of mine recently quit because he was too good, too
> qualified and mostly too honest for this group. He is Michael Herndon. I
> know that guy from dental school,  and he is maybe too honest for this
> group. Now I have aged into that same state of honesty.

>   Both Mike Herndon and Mike Garrity will visit from time to time to see
> what is being fomented, but I doubt either one of us will see anything of
> substance to keep us here for more than a parting shot.

>  In that the group has done extremely well (pfffhg) without us, I doubt we
> will be missed. My input might have been fluffy, but Michael Herndon's
would
> have knocked your socks off. His accomplishments and efforts make me want
to
> become better myself. And I had the exact same teachers (undergrad) that
> Herndon had. But he took it to a much higher plane of both expertise and
> ethics. (Yes, I know that those latter terms are 'relative'. Relative to
> your training, practice, experience and personal code.)

> Michael

Agree with everything you have said.  SMD once was a wonderful place to
visit - I loved coming here!  I learned so much!  Very saddening to see what
has happened.

Appreciate your input and Micheal Herndon's as well.  Perhaps someday things
will improve.  I've resorted to using the 'blocked senders list' and I find
that this helps when I do visit.  Thanks for posting.  Regards, Marian



Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:09:27 GMT
 
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