Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently 
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 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Hi!  My broken tooth has started bleeding a few days ago. (I am waiting
for the root c{*filter*}appmnt which is about 2 weeks later).  It doesn't bleed
all the time but sometimes it'll start after brushing/flossing.  I am not
really touching that tooth much while I am brushing.  When it does bleed
it feels like {*filter*} is running out of the middle of the broken tooth!....  I go
wash it with cold water, and it stops.   Is this cause for concern, or
emergency treatment?  I remember the Doctor from Sweden was concerned
about the root getting infected while I waited for so long.  Is bleeding a
symptom of infection?    Please let me know.  Thank you.  Wolfgang.



Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Just to make thingst clear, the broken tooth does not hurt.
Wolfgang.



Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Yep, the nerve itself which normally is in there with the pulp is
non-vital. This means that the process has already caused the nerve to
lose its {*filter*} supply. Without a normal {*filter*} supply, the nerve
becomes non-vital.

The "{*filter*}" is actually a combination of red {*filter*} cells, exudate
(fluid) and other debris. I imagine that it is considerably thinner
than the {*filter*} when you cut your finger. Is this correct?

Cheers,

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

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Quote:

>Just to make thingst clear, the broken tooth does not hurt.
>Wolfgang.



Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

You have a (carious) exposure of the tooth pulp. There are {*filter*}
vessels inside which accounts for the bleeding.

You are not doing any further damage. The tooth will require root
c{*filter*}therapy to be saved.

Infected or not, it will require root c{*filter*}therapy.

The term infection means "bacteria" present. There are bacteria,
however, not in sufficient quantities to pruduce "pus." Pus means dead
bacteria, and phagocytes which are the body's way of eliminating the
bacteria.

Cheers,

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

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Quote:

>Hi!  My broken tooth has started bleeding a few days ago. (I am waiting
>for the root c{*filter*}appmnt which is about 2 weeks later).  It doesn't bleed
>all the time but sometimes it'll start after brushing/flossing.  I am not
>really touching that tooth much while I am brushing.  When it does bleed
>it feels like {*filter*} is running out of the middle of the broken tooth!....  I go
>wash it with cold water, and it stops.   Is this cause for concern, or
>emergency treatment?  I remember the Doctor from Sweden was concerned
>about the root getting infected while I waited for so long.  Is bleeding a
>symptom of infection?    Please let me know.  Thank you.  Wolfgang.



Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:
>You have a (carious) exposure of the tooth pulp. There are {*filter*}
>vessels inside which accounts for the bleeding.

>Cheers,

>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

Joel,

It didn't start bleeding  until now.  The first month there was
no {*filter*} whatsoever.  You know my tooth has been
broken for over a month now.   I thought I must have done
extra damage by waiting so long.   Do you know why it waited
this long to start bleeding?   My appointment is still not
here!  I have a gut feeling I am going to lose this tooth because
of my stupidity.  

Quote:
>Infected or not, it will require root c{*filter*}therapy.

This is why I am waiting for the endodontist; it is already decided
that I will have the root canal.    I got into this mess because
of my dentist who would not perform a root canal; he says
he only 'restores' teeth.    Of course I understand that there
are specialties,  I just wish it wasn't MY dentist who specialized.
I think I like the idea of one-stop dentistry much better.  

Wolfgang



Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:
>Yep, the nerve itself which normally is in there with the pulp is
>non-vital. This means that the process has already caused the nerve to
>lose its {*filter*} supply. Without a normal {*filter*} supply, the nerve
>becomes non-vital.

>The "{*filter*}" is actually a combination of red {*filter*} cells, exudate
>(fluid) and other debris. I imagine that it is considerably thinner
>than the {*filter*} when you cut your finger. Is this correct?

>Cheers,

>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

I am sorry, Joel, I missed your question.    When it bled, it was like a nose
bleed.   Continous and a lot
of it.     It stopped when I washed my mouth with cold water.

I am not sure if I understand what your opinion is on the emergency issue.  Is
it allright to wait for two
more weeks like this?

Wolf



Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:
>I am not sure if I understand what your opinion is on the emergency issue.
>Is
>it allright to wait for two
>more weeks like this?

I don't think I put this quite right.  I don't mean it quite as
serious as it sounds.  I just want to make sure that I don't sit
on something that you guys consider dangerous.  That's all.
Wolf with a broken tooth.


Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

No problem. The damage is done. Maybe long before it broke.

Cheers,

Joel

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Quote:

>>I am not sure if I understand what your opinion is on the emergency issue.
>>Is
>>it allright to wait for two
>>more weeks like this?

>I don't think I put this quite right.  I don't mean it quite as
>serious as it sounds.  I just want to make sure that I don't sit
>on something that you guys consider dangerous.  That's all.
>Wolf with a broken tooth.



Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Yes.

Quote:

>>Yep, the nerve itself which normally is in there with the pulp is
>>non-vital. This means that the process has already caused the nerve to
>>lose its {*filter*} supply. Without a normal {*filter*} supply, the nerve
>>becomes non-vital.

>>The "{*filter*}" is actually a combination of red {*filter*} cells, exudate
>>(fluid) and other debris. I imagine that it is considerably thinner
>>than the {*filter*} when you cut your finger. Is this correct?

>>Cheers,

>>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

>I am sorry, Joel, I missed your question.    When it bled, it was like a nose
>bleed.   Continous and a lot
>of it.     It stopped when I washed my mouth with cold water.
>I am not sure if I understand what your opinion is on the emergency issue.  Is
>it allright to wait for two
>more weeks like this?
>Wolf



Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

If it can be resotred with root canal, it will be. The only
complication arises when the decay goes considerably below the bone
line.

Then, this requires a separate procedure, but your first step is the
root c{*filter*}therapy.

Godd luck!

Keep in touch.

Cheers,

Joel

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Quote:

>>You have a (carious) exposure of the tooth pulp. There are {*filter*}
>>vessels inside which accounts for the bleeding.

>>Cheers,

>>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
>Joel,
>It didn't start bleeding  until now.  The first month there was
>no {*filter*} whatsoever.  You know my tooth has been
>broken for over a month now.   I thought I must have done
>extra damage by waiting so long.   Do you know why it waited
>this long to start bleeding?   My appointment is still not
>here!  I have a gut feeling I am going to lose this tooth because
>of my stupidity.  
>>Infected or not, it will require root c{*filter*}therapy.

>This is why I am waiting for the endodontist; it is already decided
>that I will have the root canal.    I got into this mess because
>of my dentist who would not perform a root canal; he says
>he only 'restores' teeth.    Of course I understand that there
>are specialties,  I just wish it wasn't MY dentist who specialized.
>I think I like the idea of one-stop dentistry much better.  
>Wolfgang



Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:

> >I am not sure if I understand what your opinion is on the emergency issue.
> >Is
> >it allright to wait for two
> >more weeks like this?

> I don't think I put this quite right.  I don't mean it quite as
> serious as it sounds.  I just want to make sure that I don't sit
> on something that you guys consider dangerous.  That's all.
> Wolf with a broken tooth.

I've read most of the posts on this subject, and I don't think that you
are in any immediate danger.....HOWEVER, I would NEVER (I know never say
never) expect a patient to wait 2-3 weeks like this!!!

If I couldn't see them in a day or two, I'd find someone who could (at
least here in the US--This may be one of those "national health care"
trade offs).

SWF DDS



Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:
>You have a (carious) exposure of the tooth pulp. There are {*filter*}
>vessels inside which accounts for the bleeding.

>You are not doing any further damage. The tooth will require root
>c{*filter*}therapy to be saved.

>Cheers,

>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

What is a carious ?  Something you can see on an X-ray?  

Wolfgang



Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Carious (adjective) = caries (noun) = decay

Tooth gets rotted right into the pulp. How? Sugar or starch provides
the "food" for bacteria. After dinner, they excrete some lactic acid.

Lactic acid lowers the pH of the environment and the calcium salts
within the tooth become slightly MORE soluble. This solubility is what
we call "decalcification" or caries.

You (actually we) can scrape it or scoop it with an excavator which
looks like a tiny spoon, but kind of sharp. If it "scrapes" then its
decay.

Sometimes the decay "slides in" in one of the little grooves in the
center of the tooth and rots out the inside just like an egg would.
The outside is still kind of hard until . . .

One day you are at the movies with your "honey" watching Brad Pitt or
Leonardo Dicaprio, or maybe Johnny Depp and you bite into a jujube.
Guess what?

Time to call the dentist!

Cheers,

Joel

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

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Quote:

>>You have a (carious) exposure of the tooth pulp. There are {*filter*}
>>vessels inside which accounts for the bleeding.

>>You are not doing any further damage. The tooth will require root
>>c{*filter*}therapy to be saved.

>>Cheers,

>>Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
>What is a carious ?  Something you can see on an X-ray?  
>Wolfgang



Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:

> Something you can see on an X-ray?  
>Wolfgang

BIG DECAY: Yes.
little decay: no.


Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 Broken Tooth started bleeding intermittently

Quote:
>Carious (adjective) = caries (noun) = decay

>Tooth gets rotted right into the pulp. How?
>Cheers,

>Joel

So that's what caries means.  Sorry for asking all the dumb questions.
Interestingly enough, the endodontist KNEW I had
decay very close to the root.  (Most of my tooth is broken with
only the roots intact).

Wolfgang



Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:00:00 GMT
 
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