how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
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Noooosp
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 how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth I have a gold inlay; how would a gold allergy manifest itself? Would I see
any changes in my {*filter*}mucosa?
Thanks so much for your time.
Victor, R.Ph.
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Joel M. Eich
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth I dunno!
You might break out in hives any time that you shook hands with
someone named Goldberg or Goldman.
Cheers,
Joel
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>I have a gold inlay; how would a gold allergy manifest itself? Would I see
>any changes in my {*filter*}mucosa?
>Thanks so much for your time.
>Victor, R.Ph.
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Hans Lennro
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Quote:
>I have a gold inlay; how would a gold allergy manifest itself? Would I
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>any changes in my {*filter*}mucosa?
Very good question! There is a lot of discussons about this here in Sweden and I would really like to have some views on this. Gold allergy seems to go hand in hand with early metal sensitization, e.g. when young girls (and nowadays even boys) make hole in their ears. Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this. Bye for now,
Hans
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JGolosk
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Subject: Re: how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
Date: Thu, May 14, 1998 3:36 PM
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>I have a gold inlay; how would a gold allergy manifest itself? Would I
see
>any changes in my {*filter*}mucosa?
Very good question! There is a lot of discussons about this here in Sweden and I would really like to have some views on this. Gold allergy seems to go hand in hand with early metal sensitization, e.g. when young girls (and nowadays even boys) make hole in their ears. Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this. Subject: Re: how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
Date: Thu, May 14, 1998 3:36 PM
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>Very good question! There is a lot of discussons about this here
>in Sweden and I would really like to have some views on this.
>Gold allergy seems to go hand in hand with early metal sensitization,
>e.g. when young girls (and nowadays even boys) make hole in their
>ears. Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
>exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
The surrounding gingival tissue may tell the tale. If it becomes discolored and its not due to amalgam tattoo or violation of biologic width, I might begin to suspect a metal intolerance.
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
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Hannes Cohne
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Hans Lennros schrieb:
Quote: > Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
> exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
Hi Hans, last week a patient came to my office. (Good joke, ha ?) Really, he did. He said he didn`t like to get amalgam fillings, because he was afraid of dangerous substances leaking from them. I talked to him about the alternatives, and we found out that some composite might be just right for him (we call that informed consent). So far so good. When he opened up his mouth, I saw it: One of these lovely silver sticks with two little silver balls right through his tongue. I *love* it. Uaaaahh....mutilated. I asked him, if he knew what material it was made from, he didnt know. I asked him if the guy who did it told him what it contained, he said no. I asked him if he was aware that right now, and all day and night, poisenous heavy metals like cadmium, palladium, cobalt and god knows what else could be getting into his valuable body. He was stunned. I mean, this thing could have come right from the nuclear waste dump, and he wouldn`t have known. And he is afraid of amalgam....crazy world. Have you got any clues what is inside those sticks ? Shouldn`t the dentists try to set up some rules for the makers of those ? What do you think ? Best regards
Hannes
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
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Joel M. Eich
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Hi Jeff,
What about the base metals in a gold casting? Do you believe that this
can contribute?
Cheers,
Joel
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>Subject: Re: how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
>Date: Thu, May 14, 1998 3:36 PM
>>I have a gold inlay; how would a gold allergy manifest itself? Would I
>see
>>any changes in my {*filter*}mucosa?
>Very good question! There is a lot of discussons about this here
>in Sweden and I would really like to have some views on this.
>Gold allergy seems to go hand in hand with early metal sensitization,
>e.g. when young girls (and nowadays even boys) make hole in their
>ears. Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
>exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
>Subject: Re: how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
>Date: Thu, May 14, 1998 3:36 PM
>>Very good question! There is a lot of discussons about this here
>>in Sweden and I would really like to have some views on this.
>>Gold allergy seems to go hand in hand with early metal sensitization,
>>e.g. when young girls (and nowadays even boys) make hole in their
>>ears. Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
>>exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
>The surrounding gingival tissue may tell
>the tale. If it becomes discolored and its
>not due to amalgam tattoo or violation of
>biologic width, I might begin to suspect
>a metal intolerance.
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
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Joel M. Eich
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Hi Guys,
About the nuclear waste dump. There was some dude in the 1950s who got
a good supply of gold for use in his laboratory at a very cheap price.
He made inlays and bridges from the stuff. Turns out it was some
radioactive stuff which was pure contraband.
Cheers,
Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.
PS-
Watch manufacturers used to use radium dials too. The little ladies
who painrted the radium onto the dials kept dipping the brushes in
their mouths in between jobs until the oncologist forced them not to.
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>Hans Lennros schrieb:
>> Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
>> exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
>Hi Hans,
>last week a patient came to my office. (Good joke, ha ?) Really, he did. He
>said he didn`t like to get amalgam fillings, because he was afraid of
>dangerous substances leaking from them. I talked to him about the
>alternatives, and we found out that some composite might be just right for
>him (we call that informed consent). So far so good. When he opened up his
>mouth, I saw it: One of these lovely silver sticks with two little silver
>balls right through his tongue. I *love* it. Uaaaahh....mutilated. I asked
>him, if he knew what material it was made from, he didnt know. I asked him
>if the guy who did it told him what it contained, he said no. I asked him if
>he was aware that right now, and all day and night, poisenous heavy metals
>like cadmium, palladium, cobalt and god knows what else could be getting into
>his valuable body. He was stunned.
>I mean, this thing could have come right from the nuclear waste dump, and he
>wouldn`t have known. And he is afraid of amalgam....crazy world.
>Have you got any clues what is inside those sticks ? Shouldn`t the dentists
>try to set up some rules for the makers of those ?
>What do you think ?
>Best regards
>Hannes
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Ross Evan
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Quote:
> Hans Lennros schrieb: > > Piercing is now popular and the dermatologists expect an
> > exposion of metal allergies in the future due to this.
> Hi Hans,
> last week a patient came to my office. (Good joke, ha ?) Really, he did. He
> said he didn`t like to get amalgam fillings, because he was afraid of
> dangerous substances leaking from them. I talked to him about the
> alternatives, and we found out that some composite might be just right for
> him (we call that informed consent). So far so good. When he opened up his
> mouth, I saw it: One of these lovely silver sticks with two little silver
> balls right through his tongue. I *love* it. Uaaaahh....mutilated. I asked
> him, if he knew what material it was made from, he didnt know. I asked him
> if the guy who did it told him what it contained, he said no. I asked him if
> he was aware that right now, and all day and night, poisenous heavy metals
> like cadmium, palladium, cobalt and god knows what else could be getting into
> his valuable body. He was stunned.
> I mean, this thing could have come right from the nuclear waste dump, and he
> wouldn`t have known. And he is afraid of amalgam....crazy world.
> Have you got any clues what is inside those sticks ? Shouldn`t the dentists
> try to set up some rules for the makers of those ?
> What do you think ?
> Best regards
> Hannes
Some are made of a nickel alloy-this can include copper-. Other more expensive ones are made of surgical titanium alloy. Some admittedly are made of used nuclear fuel rods.
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Hans Lennro
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Hello Hannes Cohnert:
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> And he is afraid of amalgam....crazy world.
It is really the same problem if a heavy smoker seeks for amalgam removal. It is crazy. But then again: the line of argument as I wrote in a recent poster to Joel:
"Your line if arguments is wrong in my opinion. It builds on
the fact that we are at risk in so many other walks on life
that, if amalgam proposes a risk, it really doesn't matter.
It is just on the contrary. Since we are at risk in other areas
(compare with the lead-children) then it is another reason for
keeping all risk we can at a minimum. Including amalgam."
So this means that the better and healthy lifestyle you have the more
chemical risks you can take (including amalgam).
Do I have a point there?
Quote: >Have you got any clues what is inside those sticks ?
Sometimes some young kids come to my clinic to have those metal thing they are going to put in their cheek or tounge sterilized. What do you think I do? I sterilize them knowing that if I don't they will not only be at risk what it goes for metal allergy but also bacterial infecton (which infection- specialists are very concerned about in the piercing issue). I am afraid there is a high Ni (nickel) content. If they are unlucky they cannot wear jeans, touch coins or somtimes even door-handles for the rest of their lives. But what to do???? Did you know that Sweden solely pushed through the decision in EU
that the coming coins shall be Ni-free. All but two will now be.
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>Shouldn`t the dentists try to set up some rules for the makers of those ?
It is a community problem, not a dental. But I think we should report any suspicions on side-effects. Bye for now,
Hans
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Hannes Cohne
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Joel M. Eichen schrieb:
Quote: > Hi Guys, > About the nuclear waste dump. There was some dude in the 1950s who got
> a good supply of gold for use in his laboratory at a very cheap price.
> He made inlays and bridges from the stuff. Turns out it was some
> radioactive stuff which was pure contraband.
Well, maybe the radiation kept the plaque away....good caries protection.....cavities would be sterilized just by inserting an Inlay....no more excavating. Good plan ! ;-) Best regards
Hannes
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Hannes Cohne
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth Hans Lennros schrieb:
Quote: > So this means that the better and healthy lifestyle you have the more
> chemical risks you can take (including amalgam).
> Do I have a point there?
You definitely have. Quote: > Did you know that Sweden solely pushed through the decision in EU
> that the coming coins shall be Ni-free. All but two will now be.
Good decision. I didnt know that. Quote: > It is a community problem, not a dental. But I think we should report any
> suspicions on side-effects.
Im not sure if the community is aware of this problem. But it would be really difficult to set up rules and to inforce them. More regulations, "piercing police" maybe....I dont like it either. Maybe an information campaign would be a good idea. At least *we* dentists are the specialists for the {*filter*}cavity. Think Im going to write to the EU health minister conference. Sure will provide some good fun.... Best regards
Hannes
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Tina Kik
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how would I know if I have a gold allergy: gold is in mouth
Quote: >Hi Hans,
>last week a patient came to my office.....
> One of these lovely silver sticks with two little silver
>balls right through his tongue.
If someone wants to have something that painful done to themselves, that's their business. My question is; just how sanitary can that thing be kept? You can't tell me cooking.net">food and various assorted bacteria doesn't creep down into that hole...that warm, moist, dark hole.... and multiply faster than you can say "It's a form of expression!". What kind of damage can these things cause? Tina (thinking if my child comes in with one of those things...)
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