How about taking a look at:
http://www.***.com/
Dopt=b  for me and letting me know what you think.

What is:   "Dental Biomaterials Adverse Reaction Unit"  ????   It sounds
impressive, but is it?

This abstract seems to deal with the question of vague symptoms being argued
on another thread.  (I think I started that thread, too).  According to the
abstract, "Pre{*filter*} symptoms were of a subjective and general nature (96%
of the patients). Muscle and joint pain, headache, dizziness and feeling
exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. "  Once again, I say these are
too vague to be of any diagnostic value.  the abstract seems to say so,
also.  But,,,,,,,,,,,I have not seen the entire article.
Have you had any opportunity to read any of this Hans?

Dr. Steve

Yes, what does it really say? It says the following:

A: amalgam score
B: urinary mercury
C: symptoms

Correlation exists between A and B (A -->B).

No correlation between B and C (B -|-C)

That's all!
However, their findings also means that  A -|- B.

Bye for now,
Hans ;-)

were of a subjective and general nature (96% of the patients). Muscle and joint pain, headache,
dizziness and feeling exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. Intra-{*filter*}pathology was
observed in 48%. There
was a correlation between the amount of amalgam ("") and . Those without amalgam fillings and
significantly lower values (median = 1.6 micrograms mercury/g creatinine) than those with amalgam
fillings (medians: with
amalgam = 3.5 micrograms/g; with partial removal of amalgam = 2.7 micrograms/g). Overall, in the
present group of patients,
no statistically significant correlation seemed to exist between the type and number of subjective
symptoms or objective
findings and the urinary mercury. This would indicate therefore that there is no straightforward
association between urinary
mercury and symptoms in the present group of patients.

During 1993-95 a total of 169 patients (112 women, 57 men) with a wide range of complaints
associated with earlier or
present amalgam fillings were seen by the "Dental Biomaterials Adverse Reaction Unit" in Norway.
Most patients had amalgam
fillings; 19 had removed all amalgam, and 14 were in the process of replacing the amalgam fillings
with other materials.
Pre{*filter*} symptoms were of a subjective and general nature (96% of the patients). Muscle and joint
pain, headache,
dizziness and feeling exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. Intra-{*filter*}pathology was
observed in 48%. There
was a correlation between the amount of amalgam ("amalgam score") and urinary mercury. Those without
amalgam fillings and
significantly lower values (median = 1.6 micrograms mercury/g creatinine) than those with amalgam
fillings (medians: with
amalgam = 3.5 micrograms/g; with partial removal of amalgam = 2.7 micrograms/g). Overall, in the
present group of patients,
no statistically significant correlation seemed to exist between the type and number of subjective
symptoms or objective
findings and the urinary mercury. This would indicate therefore that there is no straightforward
association between urinary
mercury and symptoms in the present group of patients.

: Yes, what does it really say? It says the following:

: A: amalgam score
: B: urinary mercury
: C: symptoms

: Correlation exists between A and B (A -->B).

Which indicates that the kidneys are doing their job.

I posted back in 1995:
********************
You might want to refer to "The Science of the Total Environment"
126 (1992) 61-74  "Fish as a source of exposure to mercury and
selenium".

I quote:

1. "Metallic and inorganic mercury distributes about equally between
erythrocytes and plasma, while exposure to methyl mercury causes much
higher levels in erythrocytes ({*filter*} cells) compared to plasma."

2. "Absorbed methyl mercury" (as from fish - I add) "is mainly excreted
via faeces, while inorganic mercury" (from fillings - I add) "to a much
higher extent is excreted in urine."

3. "The observed correlation between plasma selenium and erythrocyte
mercury is most probably explained by the fact that fish is a major
source of both selenium and methyl mercury and intakes of these
compounds occur simultaneously. Indeed, this combined exposure might be
of value because of the possible interaction of selenium and methyl
mercury in the body."
***************************

Though someone pointed out there is the vapour, too.

: No correlation between B and C (B -|-C)

: That's all!
: However, their findings also means that  A -|- B.

:>Muscle and joint pain, headache, dizziness and feeling exhausted
:>comprised the most common symptoms. "  Once again, I say these are
:>too vague to be of any diagnostic value.  the abstract seems to say so,

: Yes, it is to vague, I agree.
: I feel like that every Sunday morning. It has absolutely no diagnostic value.

What lighting do you have on Saturday compared to week days?

: Bye for now,
: Hans ;-)

: were of a subjective and general nature (96% of the patients). Muscle and joint pain, headache,
: dizziness and feeling exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. Intra-{*filter*}pathology was
: observed in 48%. There
: was a correlation between the amount of amalgam ("") and . Those without amalgam fillings and
: significantly lower values (median = 1.6 micrograms mercury/g creatinine) than those with amalgam
: fillings (medians: with
: amalgam = 3.5 micrograms/g; with partial removal of amalgam = 2.7 micrograms/g). Overall, in the
: present group of patients,
: no statistically significant correlation seemed to exist between the type and number of subjective
: symptoms or objective
: findings and the urinary mercury. This would indicate therefore that there is no straightforward
: association between urinary
: mercury and symptoms in the present group of patients.

: During 1993-95 a total of 169 patients (112 women, 57 men) with a wide range of complaints
: associated with earlier or
: present amalgam fillings were seen by the "Dental Biomaterials Adverse Reaction Unit" in Norway.
: Most patients had amalgam
: fillings; 19 had removed all amalgam, and 14 were in the process of replacing the amalgam fillings
: with other materials.
: Pre{*filter*} symptoms were of a subjective and general nature (96% of the patients). Muscle and joint
: pain, headache,
: dizziness and feeling exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. Intra-{*filter*}pathology was
: observed in 48%. There
: was a correlation between the amount of amalgam ("amalgam score") and urinary mercury. Those without
: amalgam fillings and
: significantly lower values (median = 1.6 micrograms mercury/g creatinine) than those with amalgam
: fillings (medians: with
: amalgam = 3.5 micrograms/g; with partial removal of amalgam = 2.7 micrograms/g). Overall, in the
: present group of patients,
: no statistically significant correlation seemed to exist between the type and number of subjective
: symptoms or objective
: findings and the urinary mercury. This would indicate therefore that there is no straightforward
: association between urinary
: mercury and symptoms in the present group of patients.

:>Hey Hans,
:>
:>How about taking a look at:
:> http://www.***.com/
:>Dopt=b  for me and letting me know what you think.
:>
:>What is:   "Dental Biomaterials Adverse Reaction Unit"  ????   It sounds
:>impressive, but is it?
:>
:>This abstract seems to deal with the question of vague symptoms being argued
:>on another thread.  (I think I started that thread, too).  According to the
:>abstract, "Pre{*filter*} symptoms were of a subjective and general nature (96%
:>of the patients). Muscle and joint pain, headache, dizziness and feeling
:>exhausted comprised the most common symptoms. "  Once again, I say these are
:>too vague to be of any diagnostic value.  the abstract seems to say so,
:>also.  But,,,,,,,,,,,I have not seen the entire article.
:>Have you had any opportunity to read any of this Hans?
:>
:>Dr. Steve
:>
:>