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To you out there in the Dental Profession here is a story as well as a
question for you! I would like to know the input from Dentist, especially! I
have been in the dental field for almost 15 years, I am an RDA and I have
attended many lectures as well as on hands training. Well the other day a
situation came up which in all my years  I was not sure what the legal or
correct answer to.... This is the story, Last week we had a father bring his
son in for a N//PT exam and prophy flo.  The son was 12 1/2 yrs old and he
had been by the week before by himself to take the paper work home for his
dad to fill out, he had road his bike to the office and said he would see us
the following week. Bingo at the appointment where his son was examinated,
dad was at the appointment. We have a consent to treat minors form, dad
signed it and dated it. After the boy was released we informed the father
what was needed, composite fillings. I made the appointment for the
following day because he was on Easter break and we had a cancellation  in
our scd. The father was going to be doing things at home and I told the
father he could bring him and drop him off and we would do some fillings and
he could pick him up after we were done. Dad did. Anyway me and my employer
the Dentist were approached at lunch by the front office girl that this was
against the law, that a parent has to be in the office at all times. We just
looked puzzled.  A few hours later I called to ck on the patient which I
always try to do, especially for new ones.  Dad started telling me that we
were working on him illegally and he didn't appreciate it, I asked him sir
what are you talking about, he said the front office girl called and told
him it was illegal to work on his son with him not there, and he said my
boss was breaking the law and they might not be back because he said if my
boss breaks laws he doesn't feel comfortable. I nicely approached the front
office lady and she said that's not what she told him but admitted something
to that matter might of been mentioned, like the pt has our lunches wired or
what, if you get my point, she did it, it's only plain as day, how else
would this have arose?????? My question is, if a parent signs a consent and
chooses not to be at the office but we know where to reach him  is it
illegal, minus the child is not on any nitrous or sedatives.????? Also do
you feel like the front office is wrong, she made us look bad and employees
should be at work with the dentist and be supportive and never made to look
bad, even so, confused on this issue.....PS Good thing I wasn't the dentist,
I would of fired the person up front because those kind employees are
trouble, it tends to turn the patients away and makes the doctor who is
wonderful look very bad unfairly.....................................RDA
California.....Please respond....


Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:28:26 GMT
 concent laws
Tell the dentist and support him/her while he/she FIRES the front desk
person.

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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.

+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here.  Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will effect
your health.
......................



Quote:
> To you out there in the Dental Profession here is a story as well as a
> question for you! I would like to know the input from Dentist, especially!
I
> have been in the dental field for almost 15 years, I am an RDA and I have
> attended many lectures as well as on hands training. Well the other day a
> situation came up which in all my years  I was not sure what the legal or
> correct answer to.... This is the story, Last week we had a father bring
his
> son in for a N//PT exam and prophy flo.  The son was 12 1/2 yrs old and he
> had been by the week before by himself to take the paper work home for his
> dad to fill out, he had road his bike to the office and said he would see
us
> the following week. Bingo at the appointment where his son was examinated,
> dad was at the appointment. We have a consent to treat minors form, dad
> signed it and dated it. After the boy was released we informed the father
> what was needed, composite fillings. I made the appointment for the
> following day because he was on Easter break and we had a cancellation  in
> our scd. The father was going to be doing things at home and I told the
> father he could bring him and drop him off and we would do some fillings
and
> he could pick him up after we were done. Dad did. Anyway me and my
employer
> the Dentist were approached at lunch by the front office girl that this
was
> against the law, that a parent has to be in the office at all times. We
just
> looked puzzled.  A few hours later I called to ck on the patient which I
> always try to do, especially for new ones.  Dad started telling me that we
> were working on him illegally and he didn't appreciate it, I asked him sir
> what are you talking about, he said the front office girl called and told
> him it was illegal to work on his son with him not there, and he said my
> boss was breaking the law and they might not be back because he said if my
> boss breaks laws he doesn't feel comfortable. I nicely approached the
front
> office lady and she said that's not what she told him but admitted
something
> to that matter might of been mentioned, like the pt has our lunches wired
or
> what, if you get my point, she did it, it's only plain as day, how else
> would this have arose?????? My question is, if a parent signs a consent
and
> chooses not to be at the office but we know where to reach him  is it
> illegal, minus the child is not on any nitrous or sedatives.????? Also do
> you feel like the front office is wrong, she made us look bad and
employees
> should be at work with the dentist and be supportive and never made to
look
> bad, even so, confused on this issue.....PS Good thing I wasn't the
dentist,
> I would of fired the person up front because those kind employees are
> trouble, it tends to turn the patients away and makes the doctor who is
> wonderful look very bad unfairly.....................................RDA
> California.....Please respond....



Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:18:30 GMT
 concent laws
Gee whiz!  What are we getting to!  The front office staff put the father on
the spot and it backfired on her.  I'm with Steve.  What's wrong with common
sense, people.
fmn

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Practice win-win or no deal. (Stephen R. Covey)


Quote:
> To you out there in the Dental Profession here is a story as well as a
> question for you! I would like to know the input from Dentist, especially!
I
> have been in the dental field for almost 15 years, I am an RDA and I have
> attended many lectures as well as on hands training. Well the other day a
> situation came up which in all my years  I was not sure what the legal or
> correct answer to.... This is the story, Last week we had a father bring
his
> son in for a N//PT exam and prophy flo.  The son was 12 1/2 yrs old and he
> had been by the week before by himself to take the paper work home for his
> dad to fill out, he had road his bike to the office and said he would see
us
> the following week. Bingo at the appointment where his son was examinated,
> dad was at the appointment. We have a consent to treat minors form, dad
> signed it and dated it. After the boy was released we informed the father
> what was needed, composite fillings. I made the appointment for the
> following day because he was on Easter break and we had a cancellation  in
> our scd. The father was going to be doing things at home and I told the
> father he could bring him and drop him off and we would do some fillings
and
> he could pick him up after we were done. Dad did. Anyway me and my
employer
> the Dentist were approached at lunch by the front office girl that this
was
> against the law, that a parent has to be in the office at all times. We
just
> looked puzzled.  A few hours later I called to ck on the patient which I
> always try to do, especially for new ones.  Dad started telling me that we
> were working on him illegally and he didn't appreciate it, I asked him sir
> what are you talking about, he said the front office girl called and told
> him it was illegal to work on his son with him not there, and he said my
> boss was breaking the law and they might not be back because he said if my
> boss breaks laws he doesn't feel comfortable. I nicely approached the
front
> office lady and she said that's not what she told him but admitted
something
> to that matter might of been mentioned, like the pt has our lunches wired
or
> what, if you get my point, she did it, it's only plain as day, how else
> would this have arose?????? My question is, if a parent signs a consent
and
> chooses not to be at the office but we know where to reach him  is it
> illegal, minus the child is not on any nitrous or sedatives.????? Also do
> you feel like the front office is wrong, she made us look bad and
employees
> should be at work with the dentist and be supportive and never made to
look
> bad, even so, confused on this issue.....PS Good thing I wasn't the
dentist,
> I would of fired the person up front because those kind employees are
> trouble, it tends to turn the patients away and makes the doctor who is
> wonderful look very bad unfairly.....................................RDA
> California.....Please respond....



Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:54:56 GMT
 
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