More about JanDrew's life threatening illnesses ...

"Tooth decay is one symptom that the immune system has
not adequately defended you from the bacteria in our
world."    [see below]

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Oh Jeez, I always thought this was because of the
extreme overabundance of those cheezy sugar additives
that are pervasive in all of our cooking.net">food products these
days!

I would like to recommend to JanDrew and many others
who are interested in the effects of chemicals in the
environment, a most informative book. It is "America
the Poisoned," by Lewis Regenstein, Acropolis Books
Ltd., Washington D.C. 20009.

It explores the dangers of herbicides, pesticides,
toxic wastes, water contamination, air pollution,
chemicals, TRIS, PCBs, Lindane, DBCP, Endrin, Toxaphan,
DDT, Aldrin, Dieldrin, Chlordane and Heptachlor.

There's no mention of the dentists, though!

Basically, we continue to inhabit a very hostile
environment out there.  However, the bad guys, the big
agrochemical and petrochemical companies represent too
tough an opponent for that JanDrew.

So what does that smarmy "Erin Brockovich look-alike"
do instead?  She shows up over at sci.med.dentistry,
praising that Dr. Jerome and Hulda too. After that is
all said and done, well then she then proceeds to
attack the regular dentists!  That's easy pickins'at
least in the abuse department!

"If you are sick well just CHECK THE TEETH!!!!!!!!!!"
Does this sound familiar to anybody around here?

CREDITS: I owe some thanks to that JanDrew who has
provided us with a nice forum where we can explain the
basis for amalgam use. I also would like to thank her
for providing us with a venue for some humor too!

Speaking of Erin Brockovich, I did not understand this
one short line from the movie. Any explanations?

ERIN BROCKOVICH: "Before we begin, I must warn you that
I have acute angina."

MOTORCYCLE GUY: "Uhhh, yeah that's great. To tell you
the truth, I am not all that surprised.  From what I
can see from here, the rest of you ain't really all
that bad either."

Melaluka

I am not against natural products and natural remedies,
even that old Melaluka stuff. I am against having to
organize a downline and annoying everybody in sight
just to get the cure.

However, if it works, it should be available in the
stores.  I got a call from a thoracic surgeon last
week.  Was it concerning a patient? Nope.  What was it?
He wanted me to join his downline.  Imagine that!  He
wanted me in his downline and I know absolutely nothing
about thoracic surgery!

About amalgam and composites.

Its old hat. All dentists do composites. What do you
think happens on front teeth?  Its composite every
single time.

Often, a back tooth is too far gone for a composite,
but it can still be restored with a nice amalgam. If
you hate the amalgam stuff as most of us do, just get a
beautiful crown on the tooth instead.

However, be prepared to pay.

For those who cannot pay or will not pay or are too
stubborn to pay, I suspect your dental interests will
be best served with amalgam.  Do not go the denture
route as a result of listening to JanDrew's irrational
fear of amalgam.

The amalgam stuff is still very sturdy, exceedingly
effective, very easy to manipulate, and by all credible
accounts, still not harmful at all.

Dentures ahoy

I am residing on a different planet than most of you
guys are. You know the book, "Dental Cosmetologists are
from Mars and Amalgam Dentists are from Mercury?" That
has special meaning for me.

How did I get here? I really do not know.  But this is
what I see from the view over here.

Here is an impression for a lady who is getting a full
upper denture from me pretty soon. These poor pathetic
gums, this ridge. Unbelievable. The bony exostosis
(torus palatinus) and all. It defies the imagination.
It will be all that I can do just to fabricate a half-
way decent plastic replacement for her now long-gone
natural teeth.

While I am struggling with patients, market forces are
working against me and against her too every day of the
week.  She has some kind of Keystone-65 "dental
insurance" where the full upper denture, I am told, is
a covered expense.

The patient's co-pay is $565 while unbeknownst to the
patient, the insurance really pays zero.  The $565 is
not a "patient co-pay" it is a "dental fee." That is
some deceptive dental insurance crap.  It is a cheezy
referral service. That is all.

In the face of tremendous dental need in our wonderful
country, the dental insurance companies are making
monkeys out the the dentists and making monkeys out of
their patients.  That is exactly what I am working
against.

I am working against the unnecessary and premature loss
of teeth and all of the nonsense that goes along with
it.  Well, this is to be expected.  After all, I am a
dentist.

Cheers,

Joel

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I am still trying to figure out if JanDrew means quite
literally that Dr. Jerome has somehow saved JanDrew's
own life. Or is this just some little figure of speech?
Is it fact or is it hyperbole? If fact, what was the
diagnosis?  Was it acute dental mercury mercuritis?

Here is an example of what I mean and why I am asking:

Epidemiologists can detect abnormal clusters of disease
and therefore, can make some useful predictions. They
can help prevent further outbreaks.  This is kind of
what JanDrew herself is trying to do, although she is
doing it in a somewhat less-than-scientific way.

As for Dr. Jerome, well, he is much too busy raking in
the cash to be bothered with any explanations at all. I
heard Dr. Jerome does not count his money anymore;
instead, he takes it out of the office in wheelbarrows!

Epidemiology -- cancer of the thyroid --
Strong Memorial Hospital, Rochester, New York.
Timeline: 1980s.

X-rays
The A to Z of radiation

The story began in the 1940s and 1950s. There was one
fairly uninformed but still somewhat well meaning guy
in Rochester, New York. He was a general practitioner,
a medical doctor who noticed that everybody's thyroid
was slightly enlarged.  Or so it seemed to him.

This was way back in the 1940s.  I imagine the patient
encounter went something like this:

Doc: "Check-up?  'Kay .... Nothing wrong here with you
except that you have an enlarged thyroid.  Lucky for
you, though.  I just purchased this brand new-fangled
x-ray machine from the Army Surplus store on Main
Street.  Just lie down right here for a couple of
minutes."

His treatment?  Well, he administered a certain dose of
x-rays aimed right at the unsuspecting patient's Adam's
apple.  "Come back next month for your next dose."

A generation later, over at Strong Memorial Hospital,
the University of Rochester Med School Hospital, it was
determined by the epidemiologists that there was a
statistically significant number of new cases of
thyroid cancer.  What was the connection?  After a
period of some investigation it was determined that
these clusters had some connection. Apparently, these
guys, the patients so affected all grew up in the same
neighborhood.  The only other connection was they all
had the same general practitioner, the "zapping doc."
This was during the 1940s and 1950s!

Epidemiologists traced the source to that overzealous,
crazy, somewhat well-meaning but still ill-informed x-
raying doctor.  His main flaw was that he was much too
reluctant to dismiss patients without so much as a zap
or two.  However, this made him feel quite a bit better
than his patients anyway, meaning that he became
fabulously rich in the process.

By the 1970s, he himself too, was already long gone.
Fortunately, for his patients, boxes and boxes of his
old records were still gathering dust in the attic.

The house itself was no longer a medical office. It was
now inhabited by a whole bunch of hippie-types who were
very busy listening to Credence Clearwater Revival
(CCR) and Pink Floyd albums and smoking lots of joints.
Therefore they were much too lazy to clean out the
place.  The records were left undisturbed for all of
those years.

Fortunately for all, those patients from the 1940s were
contacted and corrective intervention was promptly
instituted.  Besides, the hippies got the attic cleaned
free-of-charge. By now they are all corporate types,
they have large 401ks, and their wives make them clean
the attics regularly.

You guys think this is an isolated instance? It is not.
Surely not. Ever see those dudes at Bikini Atoll
standing there watching a mushroom cloud with the
radiation dust blowing on them?  Know where those guys
are today?

I still have some figures concerning dental x-rays from
a while back.  The evidence, meaning the epidemiology
is still not completely clear. However, overly-cautious
patients need to be listened to and their fears need to
be taken very seriously.

So I am just wondering what life-saving procedures were
instituted for JanDrew and whether or not we should
send an award of recognition to Dr. Jerome for all of
his wonderful life-saving work?

Cheers,

DentalBoy .... I mean Joel

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S.

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This post from 7/28/98
Things change ... things stay the same!

This morning 5 periodontal patients all arrived for
their appointment. Bill Hawkins glanced around and then
surreptitiously sauntered up to the reception window.
While peering inside he asked,

"What gives? There are 4 other patients here and they
all have the exact same time for their appointment?"

"Precisely," said Lisa. "All 5 of you are here for our
new Nostradamus Periodontal Program. Its kind of like a
new age seance."

"You see, we were so impressed with Edgar Cayce's
ability to diagnose and treat gum disease with Ipsab,
that we decided to call upon the wisdom of the ages to
help out all of you guys all at once. The good doctor
found some secret writings in some old dusty books he
found over at the Book Trader on South Street."

"Oh!"

"When you go back in the treatment area, you will
notice that all of the walls have been ...

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<snip Joel's lies about Jan>

Often some dentists do not know how to fix the back teeth with compoites. Dr
Jerome does! I guess that's why people are flying in from all over.

<snip>

Yes, Joel certainly wouldn't want to tackle anyone else who regained their
health from removing mercury amalgams............

LOL. Poor Joel.............(notice by all *creditable*  accounts)

http://vest.gu.se/~bosse/Mercury/Misc/HMB/turningpoint.html

Maybe some would like to read this. Joel won't as usual,,,,,,,,,,he really
doesn't want to know what is *creditable*.

Jan

I've only been doing this for 17 years.  I agree, most dentists probably
can't handle it <NOT>.

What brand of filling material did he use?  What bonding resin?  Total
etch?  What curing light?  Sectional matrix with separating rings?  Any
flowable composite used?

SWF DDS

Hello Steve,

One of the reasons why Dr. Jerome does not share his knowledge with us is
that this is the stuff that dentistry is made of. Dr. Jerome excels at the
stuff that MARKETING is made of.

JanSpeak:

This is the first indication we have that Joel the fake D.D.S can read.

But includes mercury.

America moron-ized by the likes of people with Joel-brain-atrophy.

Now what would Joel know abour checking teeth when his eyes
are always focussed at the business end of a coffee{*filter*}. Come to think
of it, Joel seems to have been focussed quite a lot on that part of the
anatomy.
Maybe he is a proctologist and hasnt worked yet that bums dont have teeth.

Now this is really self-congratulation - you imagine you are creating
humor - if what you write you consider as humor your intelligence must
be the equivalent of a fruit bat. (hows was that ? Humor in the style of
Joel)

Or anything else it is quite obvious - are you also a fake fake,
now that would be something.

By all credible reports it is most harmful you cretin - you
goose - if you took just a few moments you could find all
those reports and studies. But being a fake as you are - you
bury your head where your{*filter*} should be. (Im glad you
used{*filter*} in you emails to me - I have thus established the level
to which we must communicate with you).

REPLY:

Any substantiation of this, or is it just a feeling that you have?

REPLY:

Yeah, I generally just listen to newsgroups and forget the reading part.
By the way, the fake D.D.S. still knows the dfference between a poison
and an internet bogus harem-scarem story!

No it does not include micrograms and nanograms from amalgam restorations.
It does include industrial pollution of mercury! Micro- means one millionth
and nano- means one billionth of a gram. A gram is one/454ths of a pound.

Compartively speaking, a 200 mg/dL cholesterol figure means 1/5th of a gram
of the stuff in one-tenth of a liter of {*filter*}. This is two grams per liter.

A comparable mercury measurement? Do the math!

Is the the best argument you have?

Oh yeah. Isn't it about time we heard about all of the excellent dentists
down in Mexico again?

Gee, what brings these people to the internet?