Sleep Apnea and Diabetes Question
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #1 / 17
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> i've just been diagnosed with apnea. it is mild to moderate and my > primary care doc gave a brief comment after my rant of denial. i was > convinced that my deviated septum could be fixed and i'd be fine. > she said my brain isn't sending the right messages to my trachea. huh? > she is making me an appointment with a pulmonary doc. > i googled, read quite a bit, and came across an article (i forgot to > save) saying there is a connection to many illnesses tied to apnea > including diabetes. > oh great! it seems like everytime i turn around something else pops up. > i was just wondering how many here have been diagnosed with apnea. i > hope you don't have it. it's like diabetes. no one wants it. my denial > over this is stronger than over my diagnosis of diabetes. much like with > the diabetes, this diagnosis will save my life, til its time for me to > go, but i'm not thrilled with what it entails.
The sleep apnea (OSA) typically goes away as VAT is lost. Thus, it remains smart to eat less, down to the right amount (32 ounces) in order to lost the VAT thereby cure the insulin resistance (IR/MetS), cure the OSA, and possibly even the type-2 diabetes: http://www.***.com/ Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul: http://www.***.com/ Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://www.***.com/ What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://www.***.com/ Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://www.***.com/
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:14:43 GMT |
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ana.. #2 / 17
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I have had it most of my {*filter*} life. Recently, I have been on loop diuretics, and the spouse says the sleep apnea has disappeared. Could it be tha sleep apnea may stem from pulmanary edema in some cases? I breath better at night than I have in decades. On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:14:43 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" Quote:
>> i've just been diagnosed with apnea. it is mild to moderate and my >> primary care doc gave a brief comment after my rant of denial. i was >> convinced that my deviated septum could be fixed and i'd be fine. >> she said my brain isn't sending the right messages to my trachea. huh? >> she is making me an appointment with a pulmonary doc. >> i googled, read quite a bit, and came across an article (i forgot to >> save) saying there is a connection to many illnesses tied to apnea >> including diabetes. >> oh great! it seems like everytime i turn around something else pops up. >> i was just wondering how many here have been diagnosed with apnea. i >> hope you don't have it. it's like diabetes. no one wants it. my denial >> over this is stronger than over my diagnosis of diabetes. much like with >> the diabetes, this diagnosis will save my life, til its time for me to >> go, but i'm not thrilled with what it entails. >The sleep apnea (OSA) typically goes away as VAT is lost. >Thus, it remains smart to eat less, down to the right amount (32 >ounces) in order to lost the VAT thereby cure the insulin resistance >(IR/MetS), cure the OSA, and possibly even the type-2 diabetes: > http://www.***.com/ >Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul: > http://www.***.com/ >Marana tha >Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, >Andrew <><
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:08:13 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #3 / 17
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>>> i've just been diagnosed with apnea. it is mild to moderate and my >>> primary care doc gave a brief comment after my rant of denial. i was >>> convinced that my deviated septum could be fixed and i'd be fine. >>> she said my brain isn't sending the right messages to my trachea. huh? >>> she is making me an appointment with a pulmonary doc. >>> i googled, read quite a bit, and came across an article (i forgot to >>> save) saying there is a connection to many illnesses tied to apnea >>> including diabetes. >>> oh great! it seems like everytime i turn around something else pops up. >>> i was just wondering how many here have been diagnosed with apnea. i >>> hope you don't have it. it's like diabetes. no one wants it. my denial >>> over this is stronger than over my diagnosis of diabetes. much like with >>> the diabetes, this diagnosis will save my life, til its time for me to >>> go, but i'm not thrilled with what it entails. >>The sleep apnea (OSA) typically goes away as VAT is lost. >>Thus, it remains smart to eat less, down to the right amount (32 >>ounces) in order to lost the VAT thereby cure the insulin resistance >>(IR/MetS), cure the OSA, and possibly even the type-2 diabetes: >> http://www.***.com/ >>Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul: >> http://www.***.com/ > I have had it most of my {*filter*} life.
It is when we no longer live under our parents' roof that we typically start eating much more than we need thereby accumulating VAT much more rapidly. Quote: > Recently, I have been on loop diuretics, > and the spouse says the sleep apnea has disappeared.
You also had been eating less because of loss of appetite. You may have also been making dietary changes that combined with eating less have resulted in your being wonderfully hungrier (healthier) which does result in loss of VAT. Quote: > Could it be tha sleep > apnea may stem from pulmanary edema in some cases?
It is unlikely that you have been having pulmonary edema most of your {*filter*} life. Quote: > I breath better at night than I have in decades.
You may now have less VAT than you have had in decades. May GOD soften your heart, Syd, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://www.***.com/ Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://www.***.com/ "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://www.***.com/ What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://www.***.com/ Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://www.***.com/
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:10:40 GMT |
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ana.. #4 / 17
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Quote: >> Could it be tha sleep >> apnea may stem from pulmanary edema in some cases? >It is unlikely that you have been having pulmonary edema most of your >{*filter*} life.
*Well, maybe not full blown pulmanary edema. But I know I have been retaining excess fluid for many years. I was on 50 mg of HCTZ twice a day for a long time. The endo tried to cut it back to 50mg once a day, and my ankles immedieately swelled. And when they stopped it entirely after the high BUN and Creatinine readigs, I swelled up like a ballon. Quote: >> I breath better at night than I have in decades. >You may now have less VAT than you have had in decades.
*That cannot be since I have been much thinner than I am right now. The snoring and other apnea symptoms have entirely disappeared since the loop diuretic therapy. Quote: >May GOD soften your heart, Syd, so that you would come to trust the >truth, Who is Jesus:
*It's pretty soft right now. Don't forget that I am one of the few folks in USENET that shows you respect.
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:33:03 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #5 / 17
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>>> Could it be tha sleep >>> apnea may stem from pulmanary edema in some cases? >>It is unlikely that you have been having pulmonary edema most of your >>{*filter*} life. >*Well, maybe not full blown pulmanary edema. But I know I have been retaining >excess fluid for many years. I was on 50 mg of HCTZ twice a day for a long >time. The endo tried to cut it back to 50mg once a day, and my ankles >immedieately swelled. And when they stopped it entirely after the high BUN and >Creatinine readigs, I swelled up like a ballon.
Peripheral edema is not the same as pulmonary edema. Quote: >>> I breath better at night than I have in decades. >> You may now have less VAT than you have had in decades. > *That cannot be since I have been much thinner than I am right now.
It remains possible. Quote: > The snoring > and other apnea symptoms have entirely disappeared since the loop diuretic > therapy.
Pulmonary edema does not cause snoring. Quote: >> May GOD soften your heart, Syd, so that you would come to trust the >> truth, Who is Jesus: >> http://www.***.com/ >*It's pretty soft right now.
Not the heart of your soul. Quote: > Don't forget that I am one of the few folks in > USENET that shows you respect.
While it is appreciated with thanks given to GOD for His putting it in your mind to recognize and respect knowledge, there is the understanding that the heart of your soul is still hard as stone. Recall that Nicodemus respected Jesus and yet it is written that Jesus told Nicodemus that he needed to be born again. The latter does mean that Nicodemus needed his heart of stone to be changed to a heart of flesh. You presently have the same need. "I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. Then they will follow My decrees and be careful to keep My laws. They will be My people, and I will be their GOD." -- the LORD (Ezekiel 11:19-20) Amen. Again, may GOD soften your heart, Syd, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://www.***.com/ Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://www.***.com/ "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://www.***.com/ What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://www.***.com/ Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://www.***.com/
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:52:48 GMT |
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ana.. #6 / 17
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:52:48 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" Quote:
>Peripheral edema is not the same as pulmonary edema.
*I understand that, but the recent water retention build-up definitely included pulmanary edema to the extent I could not sleep for a prolonged period.> Quote: >Pulmonary edema does not cause snoring.
*Maybe not, but it sure affects breathing and the ability to sleep.> Quote: >While it is appreciated with thanks given to GOD for His putting it in >your mind to recognize and respect knowledge, there is the >understanding that the heart of your soul is still hard as stone. >Recall that Nicodemus respected Jesus and yet it is written that Jesus >told Nicodemus that he needed to be born again. The latter does mean >that Nicodemus needed his heart of stone to be changed to a heart of >flesh. You presently have the same need. >"I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I >will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of >flesh. Then they will follow My decrees and be careful to keep My >laws. They will be My people, and I will be their GOD." -- the LORD >(Ezekiel 11:19-20)
*I will remind you I am granted automatic grace by virtue of my tribal affilliation (Levite). That ought to count for something. Have you paid your Levitical tihe? hehehe
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:07:36 GMT |
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Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #8 / 17
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>>Peripheral edema is not the same as pulmonary edema. >*I understand that, but the recent water retention build-up definitely included >pulmanary edema to the extent I could not sleep for a prolonged period.
The latter would not be clinical evidence of pulmonary edema. A physician needs to either listen to your lungs or look at your chest X-ray to diagnose pulmonary edema. Quote: >>Pulmonary edema does not cause snoring. >*Maybe not, but it sure affects breathing and the ability to sleep.>
Specifically, it would affect the ability to breath comfortably while lying flat on back. Quote: >>While it is appreciated with thanks given to GOD for His putting it in >>your mind to recognize and respect knowledge, there is the >>understanding that the heart of your soul is still hard as stone. >>Recall that Nicodemus respected Jesus and yet it is written that Jesus >>told Nicodemus that he needed to be born again. The latter does mean >>that Nicodemus needed his heart of stone to be changed to a heart of >>flesh. You presently have the same need. >>"I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I >>will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of >>flesh. Then they will follow My decrees and be careful to keep My >>laws. They will be My people, and I will be their GOD." -- the LORD >>(Ezekiel 11:19-20) >*I will remind you I am granted automatic grace by virtue of my tribal >affilliation (Levite).
Did not know your Levite heritage so that this would not be a reminder. Would honor your heritage by respecting it. Quote: > That ought to count for something.
Honor and respect. Quote: > Have you paid your Levitical tihe? hehehe
Am a graft (goyim for Jesus) via the Messianic (WDJW) covenant rather than via the Mosaic covenant. The good (WDJW) fruit the LORD has this new grafted branch bear are of a different variety compared to the original branches of the 12 tribes of Israel. There is now a much greater understanding as to why the LORD is orchestrating our meeting like this. Syd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
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Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:31:07 GMT |
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Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT |
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Jimmy Alph #10 / 17
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> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:52:48 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> Peripheral edema is not the same as pulmonary edema. > *I understand that, but the recent water retention build-up definitely included > pulmanary edema to the extent I could not sleep for a prolonged period.> >> Pulmonary edema does not cause snoring. > *Maybe not, but it sure affects breathing and the ability to sleep.> >> While it is appreciated with thanks given to GOD for His putting it in >> your mind to recognize and respect knowledge, there is the >> understanding that the heart of your soul is still hard as stone. >> Recall that Nicodemus respected Jesus and yet it is written that Jesus >> told Nicodemus that he needed to be born again. The latter does mean >> that Nicodemus needed his heart of stone to be changed to a heart of >> flesh. You presently have the same need. >> "I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I >> will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of >> flesh. Then they will follow My decrees and be careful to keep My >> laws. They will be My people, and I will be their GOD." -- the LORD >> (Ezekiel 11:19-20) > *I will remind you I am granted automatic grace by virtue of my tribal > affilliation (Levite). That ought to count for something. Have you paid your > Levitical tihe? hehehe
Have you received them? So far you are the only true Levite I know of? Jimmy Alpha
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Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:14:01 GMT |
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Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT |
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ana.. #12 / 17
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:31:07 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" Quote:
>Am a graft (goyim for Jesus) via the Messianic (WDJW) covenant rather >than via the Mosaic covenant. The good (WDJW) fruit the LORD has this >new grafted branch bear are of a different variety compared to the >original branches of the 12 tribes of Israel.
Some of my best friends are goyim. Hehehe. Accepting Jesus as Messiah necessarily infers you come in thru the Mosaic tradition. It is all the same covenant, just modified a bit. I am sure you agree there is only one G-d.
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Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:47:29 GMT |
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ana.. #13 / 17
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:31:07 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" Quote:
>The latter would not be clinical evidence of pulmonary edema. A >physician needs to either listen to your lungs or look at your chest >X-ray to diagnose pulmonary edema.
*I know. I had the X-rays and exhibited the calssic rale. Gone now after dumping close to 50 pounds of water. Quote: >Specifically, it would affect the ability to breath comfortably while >lying flat on back.
*Trust me, it can even affect your breathing sitting up if it gets bad enuff.
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Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:52:42 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #14 / 17
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> >Am a graft (goyim for Jesus) via the Messianic (WDJW) covenant rather > >than via the Mosaic covenant. The good (WDJW) fruit the LORD has this > >new grafted branch bear are of a different variety compared to the > >original branches of the 12 tribes of Israel. > Some of my best friends are goyim. Hehehe. Accepting Jesus as Messiah > necessarily infers you come in thru the Mosaic tradition. It is all the same > covenant, just modified a bit.
Careful study allows the understanding that there remain different divine covenants (promises) described within the written Word of G- D. Quote: > I am sure you agree there is only one G-d.
Yes. HE is the Author of all reality. G-D has been and remains able to make different promises to different people. "For G-D so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." -- Jesus the Messiah (John 3:16) Amen. Syd, can you now publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ? Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
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Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:05:00 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #15 / 17
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>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part: >>The latter would not be clinical evidence of pulmonary edema. A >>physician needs to either listen to your lungs or look at your chest >>X-ray to diagnose pulmonary edema. >*I know. I had the X-rays and exhibited the calssic rale. Gone now after >dumping close to 50 pounds of water. >>Specifically, it would affect the ability to breath comfortably while >>lying flat on back. >*Trust me, it can even affect your breathing sitting up if it gets bad enuff.
It would be that it worsens with lying down that would lead a physician to suspect pulmonary edema before listening to the lungs and obtaining a chest X-ray. Again, may G-D soften your heart, Syd, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?
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