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ceniz #1 / 19
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Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?
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Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:28:38 GMT |
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Jaso #2 / 19
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> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. > How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? > Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?
Hello, This book should answer your questions: "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist) -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:07:17 GMT |
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listene #3 / 19
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34.snlo.dialup.fix.net: Quote:
>> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. >> How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"? > Hello, > This book should answer your questions: > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and > related conditions." > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)
Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According to "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets there by...... Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to the questions posed? You have read the book, right? L.
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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:44:04 GMT |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/Ph #4 / 19
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> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. > How does this calcium get there?
Through the influx of calcium cations into cells that are dying. Quote: > It's not dietary calcium, right?
It is serum calcium. Quote: > Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?
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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:39:41 GMT |
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Jim Chinni #5 / 19
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Quote: >Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. >How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? >Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?
Dietary. There is no calcium in cholesterol. But I'm not sure you are asking a sensible question. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, {*filter*}ia, USA
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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:39:52 GMT |
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Jaso #6 / 19
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> 34.snlo.dialup.fix.net:
> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. > >> How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? > >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"? > > Hello, > > This book should answer your questions: > > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and > > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and > > related conditions." > > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist) > Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According to > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related > conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets there > by...... > Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to the > questions posed? You have read the book, right? > L.
L., If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact information in the book. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:19:47 GMT |
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listene #7 / 19
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>> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. >> >> How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? >> >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"? >> > Hello, >> > This book should answer your questions: >> > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and >> > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and >> > related conditions." >> > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist) >> Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According >> to "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and >> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related >> conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets >> there by...... >> Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to >> the questions posed? You have read the book, right? >> L. > L., > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the > exact information in the book. > Jason
Jason, I wasn't suggesting you give medical advice. Suppose someone asked "Can anyone tell me what hegari is?" Your response: "This book should answer your questions: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition. Normal response: "According to my dictionary hegari is any of several Sudanese grain sorghums having chalky white seeds including one grown in the southwestern U.S." Why is this so difficult for you to understand which response is more helpful? L.
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:56:20 GMT |
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David Rin #8 / 19
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Jason wrote Quote: > L., > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from > those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact > information in the book. > Jason
Jason, when you tell someone who writes in with pleuritic chest pain that he should get a second opinion (and don't even point out that you have no particular training in the evaluation of chest pain), I view that as giving medical advice. When someone asks how calcium gets in {*filter*} vessels, feel free to explain the pathophysiology to your heart's content. I won't view that as medical advice, just right or wrong information. -- David Rind
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:49:29 GMT |
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Jaso #9 / 19
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> Jason wrote > > L., > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from > > those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact > > information in the book. > > Jason > Jason, when you tell someone who writes in with pleuritic chest pain > that he should get a second opinion (and don't even point out that you > have no particular training in the evaluation of chest pain), I view > that as giving medical advice. > When someone asks how calcium gets in {*filter*} vessels, feel free to > explain the pathophysiology to your heart's content. I won't view that > as medical advice, just right or wrong information.
David, Thanks for the advice. I have to be careful since I don't know as much as I wish that I knew. Jaspm -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:06:37 GMT |
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Jaso #10 / 19
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> >> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart. > >> >> How does this calcium get there? It's not dietary calcium, right? > >> >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"? > >> > Hello, > >> > This book should answer your questions: > >> > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and > >> > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and > >> > related conditions." > >> > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist) > >> Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According > >> to "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and > >> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related > >> conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets > >> there by...... > >> Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to > >> the questions posed? You have read the book, right? > >> L. > > L., > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the > > exact information in the book. > > Jason > Jason, > I wasn't suggesting you give medical advice. Suppose someone asked "Can > anyone tell me what hegari is?" > Your response: "This book should answer your questions: > Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition. > Normal response: > "According to my dictionary hegari is any of several Sudanese grain > sorghums having chalky white seeds including one grown in the southwestern > U.S." > Why is this so difficult for you to understand which response is more > helpful? > L.
L., Great point. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:07:17 GMT |
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quietgu #11 / 19
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It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source says there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are providing information, not advice. David Quote:
> > L., > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the > > exact information in the book. > > Jason
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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:17:00 GMT |
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Jaso #12 / 19
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> It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source says > there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are > providing information, not advice. > David
> > > L., > > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} > > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice. > > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical > > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I > > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice > > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the > > > exact information in the book. > > > Jason
Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a question about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide an answer for the poster. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:39:54 GMT |
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William Wagne #13 / 19
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> Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but > can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a > question > about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide > an answer for the poster. > Jason
Provide no answer just and avenue for person to explore. Answers seem to be by nature subject to change. Learning ongoing ;)) Bill -- Garden Shade Zone 5 S Jersey USA in a Japanese Jungle Manner.39.6376 -75.0208 This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. "Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice." -Baruch Spinoza
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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:57:44 GMT |
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<Hawk.. #14 / 19
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>> It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source >> says >> there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are >> providing information, not advice. >> David
>> > > L., >> > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*} >> > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing >> > > advice. >> > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical >> > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason >> > > I >> > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice >> > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find >> > > the >> > > exact information in the book. >> > > Jason > Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but > can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a > question > about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide > an answer for the poster. > Jason
Jason...your first problem..of many..is that you think ANYTHING written in a book is gospel...obviously that is untrue..as many have attempted to point out to you..to no avail.... you read book after book...to no avail Quote: > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:09:23 GMT |
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Jaso #15 / 19
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> > Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but > > can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a > > question > > about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide > > an answer for the poster. > > Jason > Provide no answer just and avenue for person to explore. Answers seem > to be by nature subject to change. > Learning ongoing ;)) > Bill
Great point. Thanks for your post. jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:04:34 GMT |
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