Calcium Deposits in the Heart 
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 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?


Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:28:38 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

Quote:

> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
> How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

Hello,
This book should answer your questions:
"Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and
related conditions."
by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)

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Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:07:17 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

34.snlo.dialup.fix.net:

Quote:


>> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
>> How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
>> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

> Hello,
> This book should answer your questions:
> "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and
> related conditions."
> by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)

Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According to
"Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related
conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets there
by......

Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to the
questions posed? You have read the book, right?

L.



Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:44:04 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

Quote:

> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
> How does this calcium get there?

Through the influx of calcium cations into cells that are dying.

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> It's not dietary calcium, right?

It is serum calcium.

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> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

No.

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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:39:41 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

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>Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
>How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
>Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

Dietary. There is no calcium in cholesterol. But I'm not sure you are asking
a sensible question.
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Jim Chinnis   Warrenton, {*filter*}ia, USA


Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:39:52 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

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> 34.snlo.dialup.fix.net:



> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
> >> How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
> >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

> > Hello,
> > This book should answer your questions:
> > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
> > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and
> > related conditions."
> > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)

> Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According to
> "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related
> conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets there
> by......

> Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to the
> questions posed? You have read the book, right?

> L.

L.,
If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from
those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact
information in the book.
Jason

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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:19:47 GMT
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>> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
>> >> How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
>> >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

>> > Hello,
>> > This book should answer your questions:
>> > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
>> > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and
>> > related conditions."
>> > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)

>> Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According
>> to "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
>> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related
>> conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets
>> there by......

>> Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to
>> the questions posed? You have read the book, right?

>> L.

> L.,
> If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice
> from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the
> exact information in the book.
> Jason

Jason,

I wasn't suggesting you give medical advice. Suppose someone asked "Can
anyone tell me what hegari is?"

Your response: "This book should answer your questions:
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition.

Normal response:
"According to my dictionary hegari is any of several Sudanese grain
sorghums having chalky white seeds including one grown in the southwestern
U.S."

Why is this so difficult for you to understand which response is more
helpful?

L.



Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:56:20 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart
Jason wrote

Quote:
> L.,
> If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from
> those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact
> information in the book.
> Jason

Jason, when you tell someone who writes in with pleuritic chest pain
that he should get a second opinion (and don't even point out that you
have no particular training in the evaluation of chest pain), I view
that as giving medical advice.

When someone asks how calcium gets in {*filter*} vessels, feel free to
explain the pathophysiology to your heart's content. I won't view that
as medical advice, just right or wrong information.

--
David Rind



Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:49:29 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart

Quote:

> Jason wrote
> > L.,
> > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice from
> > those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the exact
> > information in the book.
> > Jason

> Jason, when you tell someone who writes in with pleuritic chest pain
> that he should get a second opinion (and don't even point out that you
> have no particular training in the evaluation of chest pain), I view
> that as giving medical advice.

> When someone asks how calcium gets in {*filter*} vessels, feel free to
> explain the pathophysiology to your heart's content. I won't view that
> as medical advice, just right or wrong information.

David,
Thanks for the advice. I have to be careful since I don't know as much
as I wish that I knew.
Jaspm

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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:06:37 GMT
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> >> >> Electron Beam tomography supposedly detects calcium in the heart.
> >> >> How does this calcium get there?  It's not dietary calcium, right?
> >> >> Is is oxidized cholesteral that "calcifies"?

> >> > Hello,
> >> > This book should answer your questions:
> >> > "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
> >> > reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and
> >> > related conditions."
> >> > by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)

> >> Instead of hawing this book couldn't you respond by saying "According
> >> to "Stop Inflammation Now--A step by step plan to prevent, treat and
> >> reverse inflammation--the leading cause of heart disease and related
> >> conditions." by Richard M. Feming, M.D (cardiologist)" calcium gets
> >> there by......

> >> Wouldn't that be more helpful response? Do YOU know that answers to
> >> the questions posed? You have read the book, right?

> >> L.

> > L.,
> > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice
> > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the
> > exact information in the book.
> > Jason

> Jason,

> I wasn't suggesting you give medical advice. Suppose someone asked "Can
> anyone tell me what hegari is?"

> Your response: "This book should answer your questions:
> Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th Edition.

> Normal response:
> "According to my dictionary hegari is any of several Sudanese grain
> sorghums having chalky white seeds including one grown in the southwestern
> U.S."

> Why is this so difficult for you to understand which response is more
> helpful?

> L.

L.,
Great point.
Jason

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Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:07:17 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart
It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source says
there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are
providing information, not advice.

David

Quote:

> > L.,
> > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice
> > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the
> > exact information in the book.
> > Jason



Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:17:00 GMT
 Calcium Deposits in the Heart
In article

Quote:

> It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source says
> there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are
> providing information, not advice.

> David


> > > L.,
> > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
> > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing advice.
> > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
> > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason I
> > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice
> > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find the
> > > exact information in the book.
> > > Jason

Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but
can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a
question
about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide
an answer for the poster.
Jason

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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:39:54 GMT
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> Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but
> can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a
> question
> about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide
> an answer for the poster.
> Jason

 Provide no answer just and avenue for  person to explore.  Answers seem
to be by nature subject to change.

Learning ongoing ;))

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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:57:44 GMT
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Quote:
> In article


>> It is wise to discriminate between advice and information - if a source
>> says
>> there is calcium in the {*filter*}, and you quote that source, then you are
>> providing information, not advice.

>> David


>> > > L.,
>> > > If I had told the person that the calcium was contained in the {*filter*}
>> > > flow--you know that someone would have accused me of providing
>> > > advice.
>> > > They would have also told me that since I am not a doctor or medical
>> > > expert that I should not have provided any advice. That's the reason
>> > > I
>> > > usually tell people about books instead of providing medical advice
>> > > from those same books. I usually only provide advice if I can find
>> > > the
>> > > exact information in the book.
>> > > Jason

> Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but
> can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a
> question
> about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide
> an answer for the poster.
> Jason

Jason...your first problem..of many..is that you think ANYTHING written in a
book is gospel...obviously that is untrue..as many have attempted to point
out to you..to no avail....

you read book after book...to no avail

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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:09:23 GMT
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> > Great point. What should I do if I learned something from the book but
> > can't easily find the exact information in the book when someone asks a
> > question
> > about that issue. Should I ignore the post or rely on my memory to provide
> > an answer for the poster.
> > Jason

>  Provide no answer just and avenue for  person to explore.  Answers seem
> to be by nature subject to change.

> Learning ongoing ;))

> Bill

Great point. Thanks for your post.
jason

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Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:04:34 GMT
 
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