Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart 
Author Message
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:

> http://www.***.com/

> (excerpt)

> For severely obese people? gastric bypass surgery may not only lead to
> weight loss but could help overly stressed hearts return to more
> normal function and appearance? according to a new study.

Smarter to freely choose to eat the right daily amount (32 oz) of cooking.net">food
instead of being forced surgically to do it.

Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
more sophisticated and smarter:

http://www.***.com/

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://www.***.com/

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://www.***.com/
Approach to get our...

http://www.***.com/

and then...

http://www.***.com/

so that there will be...

http://www.***.com/

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.***.com/

Historical:

http://www.***.com/

Medical:

http://www.***.com/

Psychological:

http://www.***.com/

So that we really should http://www.***.com/
"wonderfully hungry" whenever we are greeted:

http://www.***.com/

http://www.***.com/

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince others:

http://www.***.com/

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly.  Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this.  This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else.  I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://www.***.com/

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://www.***.com/



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:03:40 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER

6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.

Quote:
> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...
> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now!

Epic FALSE Christianity.


Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:06:35 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:



> > > Hunger destroys braincells.

> > Source:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/19e764d8b0f46ec5?

> > Incorrect.

> Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
> everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

Lie.

The fact is that everyone who has looked this up in a thesaurus knows
that hunger is not a synonym for starvation.

Moreover, the truthful phrase "healthy appetite" allows everyone to
also know that hunger (appetite) is synonymous with being healthy.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fb8ddd1f3be3a56?

Quote:

> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...

... that we become healthier (hungrier) than ever:

http://WDJW.net/HealthTip

Quote:
>  Sinful gluttons!

Incorrect.

Gluttons are filled with food, which is not sin.

It is gluttony itself that is sin.

Quote:
> May GOD annihilate ...

... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
is starvation" here on usenet ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ce32afef01afd70?

Quote:


> > Actually, it is VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue) as a consequence of
> > overeating that is the cause of type-2 diabetes even in folks with
> > chronically elevated serum cortisol (i.e. Cushings).

> > It is the self-discipline of holding to the right daily amount (32 oz)
> > of cooking.net">food rather than exercise that cures the VAT.

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes. Simply look at the research data from all the bariatric surgeons
who have been allowed to report that they can cure type-2 diabetes by
surgically forcing people to eat less.

Quote:
> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes:

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Quote:
> 2PD-OMER; probably the most untested, unproven and unheard of eating
> approach ever devised.

Lie.

All who have stayed with the more well-known alternative approach,
which is fasting (i.e. 0 oz per day) have died.

Meanwhile, Chris Malcolm is still alive and thriving as evident by his
ongoing Usenet posts in ASD.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2dcb13504a1914b9?

Quote:


> > A much bigger and more pervasive lie is "hunger is starvation" as
> > evident by all the "stop hunger" propaganda that is keeping folks from
> > doing the healthy things that make them hungrier such as stopping
> > smoking, stopping worrying, stopping fighting, and stopping overeating
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

> Wow, you just might have gotten even more insane, if that's possible.

Lie.

Wouldn't still have an active medical license if that were true.

Quote:
> The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> places in the world ...

Lie.

Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
government money with a government web site in a country where there
is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:

http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

Quote:
> ... where it's IMPOSSIBLE to overeat.

Lie.

Overeating is definitely happening in the United States.

That's 3 lies in a row. You've struck out.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b3ab8dc960131a3c?

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:10:20 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER

6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.

Quote:
> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...
> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now!

Epic FALSE Christianity.


Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:32:39 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:



> > > Hunger destroys braincells.

> > Source:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/19e764d8b0f46ec5?

> > Incorrect.

> Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
> everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

Lie.

The fact is that everyone who has looked this up in a thesaurus knows
that hunger is not a synonym for starvation.

Moreover, the truthful phrase "healthy appetite" allows everyone to
also know that hunger (appetite) is synonymous with being healthy.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fb8ddd1f3be3a56?

Quote:

> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...

... that we become healthier (hungrier) than ever:

http://WDJW.net/HealthTip

Quote:
>  Sinful gluttons!

Incorrect.

Gluttons are filled with food, which is not sin.

It is gluttony itself that is sin.

Quote:
> May GOD annihilate ...

... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
is starvation" here on usenet ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ce32afef01afd70?

Quote:


> > Actually, it is VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue) as a consequence of
> > overeating that is the cause of type-2 diabetes even in folks with
> > chronically elevated serum cortisol (i.e. Cushings).

> > It is the self-discipline of holding to the right daily amount (32 oz)
> > of cooking.net">food rather than exercise that cures the VAT.

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes. Simply look at the research data from all the bariatric surgeons
who have been allowed to report that they can cure type-2 diabetes by
surgically forcing people to eat less.

Quote:
> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes:

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Quote:
> 2PD-OMER; probably the most untested, unproven and unheard of eating
> approach ever devised.

Lie.

All who have stayed with the more well-known alternative approach,
which is fasting (i.e. 0 oz per day) have died.

Meanwhile, Chris Malcolm is still alive and thriving as evident by his
ongoing Usenet posts in ASD.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2dcb13504a1914b9?

Quote:


> > A much bigger and more pervasive lie is "hunger is starvation" as
> > evident by all the "stop hunger" propaganda that is keeping folks from
> > doing the healthy things that make them hungrier such as stopping
> > smoking, stopping worrying, stopping fighting, and stopping overeating
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

> Wow, you just might have gotten even more insane, if that's possible.

Lie.

Wouldn't still have an active medical license if that were true.

Quote:
> The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> places in the world ...

Lie.

Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
government money with a government web site in a country where there
is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:

http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

Quote:
> ... where it's IMPOSSIBLE to overeat.

Lie.

Overeating is definitely happening in the United States.

That's 3 lies in a row. You've struck out.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b3ab8dc960131a3c?

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:53:16 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart


Quote:



> > > > Hunger destroys braincells.

> > > Source:

> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/19e764d8b0f46ec5?

> > > Incorrect.

> > Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
> > everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

> Lie.

> The fact is that everyone who has looked this up in a thesaurus knows
> that hunger is not a synonym for starvation.

> Moreover, the truthful phrase "healthy appetite" allows everyone to
> also know that hunger (appetite) is synonymous with being healthy.

> Source:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fb8ddd1f3be3a56?


> > It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...

> ... that we become healthier (hungrier) than ever:

> http://WDJW.net/HealthTip

> > ?Sinful gluttons!

> Incorrect.

> Gluttons are filled with food, which is not sin.

> It is gluttony itself that is sin.

> > May GOD annihilate ...

> ... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
> is starvation" here on usenet ...

> Source:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ce32afef01afd70?



> > > Actually, it is VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue) as a consequence of
> > > overeating that is the cause of type-2 diabetes even in folks with
> > > chronically elevated serum cortisol (i.e. Cushings).

> > > It is the self-discipline of holding to the right daily amount (32 oz)
> > > of cooking.net">food rather than exercise that cures the VAT.

> > Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

> Yes. Simply look at the research data from all the bariatric surgeons
> who have been allowed to report that they can cure type-2 diabetes by
> surgically forcing people to eat less.

> > > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > > more sophisticated and smarter:

> > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

> > Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

> Yes:

> http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

> > 2PD-OMER; probably the most untested, unproven and unheard of eating
> > approach ever devised.

> Lie.

> All who have stayed with the more well-known alternative approach,
> which is fasting (i.e. 0 oz per day) have died.

> Meanwhile, Chris Malcolm is still alive and thriving as evident by his
> ongoing Usenet posts in ASD.

> Source:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2dcb13504a1914b9?



> > > A much bigger and more pervasive lie is "hunger is starvation" as
> > > evident by all the "stop hunger" propaganda that is keeping folks from
> > > doing the healthy things that make them hungrier such as stopping
> > > smoking, stopping worrying, stopping fighting, and stopping overeating
> > > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

> > Wow, you just might have gotten even more insane, if that's possible.

> Lie.

> Wouldn't still have an active medical license if that were true.

> > The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> > places in the world ...

> Lie.

> Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
> propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
> government money with a government web site in a country where there
> is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:

> http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

> > ... where it's IMPOSSIBLE to overeat.

> Lie.

> Overeating is definitely happening in the United States.

> That's 3 lies in a row. You've struck out.

> Source:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b3ab8dc960131a3c?

> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
> of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Board-certified Cardiologist
> and Author of "Trust the Truth:"http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

> "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

> What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

> Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?


Quote:
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER

6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.

Quote:
> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...
> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now!

Epic FALSE Christianity.


Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:01:31 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:
> We do this by weighing our meals per thehttp://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER

6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
of mixed vegetables a day. Right? NO, WRONG! - FAIL.

2PD-OMER = Epic FAIL.

Quote:
> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...
> May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now!

Epic FALSE Christianity.

http://www.lolcaption.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-fail-pics-...



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:05:57 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart

Quote:


> > We do this by weighing our meals per the http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach.

> 6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
> http://www.grocerycouponnetwork.com/foodproducts/products.php?Id=42132

Irrelevant.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a Bear Claw diet.

Quote:
> 30oz of Frozen Mixed Vegetables adds up to only 537 calories.
> http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-vegetables-mixed-i11584

Irrelevant again.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a frozen mixed vegetable diet:

http://WDJW.net/NotDiet

Quote:
> However: according to Chung's 2PD-OMER: You'll lose more weight by
> eating 2lbs of Hostess Bear Claws a day, than you will be eating 4lbs
> of mixed vegetables a day.

Lie.

See above.

Quote:



> > > Hunger destroys braincells.

> > Source:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/19e764d8b0f46ec5?

> > Incorrect.

> Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
> everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

Lie.

The fact is that everyone who has looked this up in a thesaurus knows
that hunger is not a synonym for starvation.

Moreover, the truthful phrase "healthy appetite" allows everyone to
also know that hunger (appetite) is synonymous with being healthy.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0fb8ddd1f3be3a56?

Quote:

> It's when we're completely humble, gentle & patient...

... that we become healthier (hungrier) than ever:

http://WDJW.net/HealthTip

Quote:
>  Sinful gluttons!

Incorrect.

Gluttons are filled with food, which is not sin.

It is gluttony itself that is sin.

Quote:
> May GOD annihilate ...

... all those who would anonymously propagandize the lie that "hunger
is starvation" here on usenet ...

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ce32afef01afd70?

Quote:


> > Actually, it is VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue) as a consequence of
> > overeating that is the cause of type-2 diabetes even in folks with
> > chronically elevated serum cortisol (i.e. Cushings).

> > It is the self-discipline of holding to the right daily amount (32 oz)
> > of cooking.net">food rather than exercise that cures the VAT.

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes. Simply look at the research data from all the bariatric surgeons
who have been allowed to report that they can cure type-2 diabetes by
surgically forcing people to eat less.

Quote:
> > Yes, right amount (omer) control as Chris Malcolm is doing is much
> > more sophisticated and smarter:

> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef744...

> Got any independent clinical research to back that up?

Yes:

http://WDJW.net/NoVAT

Quote:
> 2PD-OMER; probably the most untested, unproven and unheard of eating
> approach ever devised.

Lie.

All who have stayed with the more well-known alternative approach,
which is fasting (i.e. 0 oz per day) have died.

Meanwhile, Chris Malcolm is still alive and thriving as evident by his
ongoing Usenet posts in ASD.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2dcb13504a1914b9?

Quote:


> > A much bigger and more pervasive lie is "hunger is starvation" as
> > evident by all the "stop hunger" propaganda that is keeping folks from
> > doing the healthy things that make them hungrier such as stopping
> > smoking, stopping worrying, stopping fighting, and stopping overeating
> > by holding to the right daily amount (32 oz) of food.

> Wow, you just might have gotten even more insane, if that's possible.

Lie.

Wouldn't still have an active medical license if that were true.

Quote:
> The Stop Hunger campaign is aimed at stopping malnutrition in poverty stricken
> places in the world ...

Lie.

Folks really dying from malnutrition are not hungry. Moreover, the
propaganda campaign is the most intense in the United States funded by
government money with a government web site in a country where there
is an obesity epidemic instead of famine:

http://HelpStampOutHunger.com

Quote:
> ... where it's IMPOSSIBLE to overeat.

Lie.

Overeating is definitely happening in the United States.

That's 3 lies in a row. You've struck out.

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b3ab8dc960131a3c?

May GOD annihilate you with fires from Heaven right now, in the name
of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG

"no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit."(1Cor12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:12:48 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:10:20 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>> > > Hunger destroys braincells.

>> > Source:

>> > http://www.***.com/

>> > Incorrect.

>> Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
>> everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

>Lie.

No lie. satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is just too {*filter*}y stupid so face reality.

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells were made in Germany in about
2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS. The brain shrinks.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.

                FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
                ========================================

13.2.2011

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----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

A look at the header reveals:


Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.

The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the {*filter*}ic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a {*filter*}ic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

   sci.med.cardiology

His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.

2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board

Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://www.***.com/

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>

3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the cooking.net">food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with cooking.net">food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in cooking.net">food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
life{*filter*}. These are your needs to ...

read more »



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:07:13 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:03:40 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Absolutely NOT !!!

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells were made in Germany in about
2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS. The brain shrinks.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.

                FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
                ========================================

13.2.2011

 0. Preword
 1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
 2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
 3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
    The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
 7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet.
11. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

A look at the header reveals:


Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.

The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the {*filter*}ic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a {*filter*}ic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

   sci.med.cardiology

His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.

2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board

Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://www.***.com/

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>

3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the cooking.net">food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with cooking.net">food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in cooking.net">food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
life{*filter*}. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These methods are central to your need to protect what
you believe. My opinion is that they're profoundly unhealthy.
Obviously, you disagree or you wouldn't do it.

So here's the bottom line. I'm out of these threads with you. ...

read more »



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 18:06:21 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:53:16 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>> > > Hunger destroys braincells.

>> > Source:

>> > http://grou

>> > Incorrect.

>> Andrew, you need to come to terms with the fact that virtually
>> everyone considers hunger a synonym of starvation.

>Lie.

It is written on Satan Ben Hua Chungs forehead: Hunger kills braincells!

All can see it.

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells show that. They were made in
Germany in about 2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.

                FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
                ========================================

13.2.2011

 0. Preword
 1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
 2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
 3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
    The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
 7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet.
11. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

A look at the header reveals:


Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.

The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the {*filter*}ic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a {*filter*}ic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

   sci.med.cardiology

His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.

2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board

Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://www.***.com/

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>

3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the cooking.net">food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with cooking.net">food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in cooking.net">food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I was wrong. These are your
life{*filter*}. These are your needs to prevent finding error in your
belief package. These ...

read more »



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 19:43:08 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:12:48 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:



>> > We do this by weighing our meals per the http://www.***.com/

>> 6 Hostess Bear Claws weigh 30.0534oz and adds up to 3180 calories!
>> http://www.***.com/

>Irrelevant.

No. Not at all! Satan Andrew Ben Hua Cnung denies scientific facts.

Hunger kills braincells!
*************************

Scientific studies about hunger and braincells show that. They were made in
Germany in about 2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.

                FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
                ========================================

13.2.2011

 0. Preword
 1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
 2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
 3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
    The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
 7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the planet.
11. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

A look at the header reveals:


Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.

The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the {*filter*}ic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a {*filter*}ic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

   sci.med.cardiology

His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.

2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board

Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://www.***.com/

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>

3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the cooking.net">food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with cooking.net">food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in cooking.net">food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall where they may. You don't work that way so we have little common
purpose.

Dealing with you has been an interesting study in the use of language.
I've watched you deliberately obscure meaning. Deliberately
misunderstand and mislead. Deliberately try to confuse and confound. I
thought these were merely tactics. I ...

read more »



Fri, 02 Aug 2013 19:54:42 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
... and encouraging born again (Jn3:3&5) friends to also pray for
Aribert's perishing soul simply because we truly love him as our LORD
commands (Jn15:12) with all glory to GOD the Father.


Quote:


>>> Hunger destroys braincells.

>>Incorrect.

>>Source:

>> http://www.***.com/

>The scientific studies about hunger and braincells were made in Germany in about
>2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS.

Lie.

Toxicology studies on brain cells are done in cell culture by
subjecting them to chemicals like {*filter*}.  Hunger is not a
chemical... never has been ... never will be. Truth is reality.

Source:

http://www.***.com/

Moreover, the fact that babies are born hungry with empty stomachs
**and** functioning brains is absolute scientific proof that hunger
does not destroy brain cells but rather promotes their rapid growth as
evident by what happens in utero.

Bottom line:

You have confused hunger with {*filter*}.

Indeed, as {*filter*} kills brain cells (killing memories) it also kills
hunger because hunger requires healthy (non-dying) brain cells for
memories associated with food.

Happiness from {*filter*} is transient bliss and not lasting joy even
when all unpleasant memories are destroyed because there is still the
present moment which is experienced without memory plus the
concomitant loss of joy as a consequence of loss of memories of past
joyful meals with friends & family.


Quote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:

> >> > Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
> >> > other heart disease patients:

> >> > http://www.***.com/

> >> Why don't you {*filter*}y liar go to Ethiopia and tell your lies to **the people on the
> >> street** there?

**emphasis** added

Source:

http://www.***.com/

Quote:
> >The homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either type-2
> >diabetes or sleep apnea.

> That is bullshit. I did not say anything about HOMELESS PEOPLE in Ethiopia!

See **emphasis** above.

Again, the homeless in Ethiopia do not as a general rule have either
type-2 diabetes or sleep apnea.

Now, why don't you start being hungrier (healthier) by eating the
right amount (32 oz/day) and give your excess to the homeless in
Ethiopia so that they too would become hungrier (healthier) and not
die from starvation?

Bottom line concerning you, Aribert:

http://www.***.com/

Again, this physician prays for you as outlined per the amazing
Facebook spectacle at http://www.***.com/ :

May GOD save your perishing soul by giving you, Aribert, a new heart
and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be
born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5), http://www.***.com/
by Him so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://www.***.com/

Amen.

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://www.***.com/

We do this by weighing our meals per the http://www.***.com/
Approach to get our...

http://www.***.com/

and then...

http://www.***.com/

so that there will be...

http://www.***.com/

Being hungry is truly wonderful as proven by four lines of evidence:

Mathematical:

http://www.***.com/

Historical:

http://www.***.com/

Medical:

http://www.***.com/

Psychological:

http://www.***.com/

So that we really should http://www.***.com/
"wonderfully hungry" ( http://www.***.com/ ) whenever we
are greeted:

http://www.***.com/

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to convince minds:

http://www.***.com/

"A 2005 visit to an Atlanta cardiologist by the name of Andrew Chung
put me on some serious reality

I wasnt just chubby or husky, I am what they often call morbidly
obese. He explained that morbid obesity simply means that if something
happened to me that could be attiributed to weight and I were to end
up in the not breathing state

ok some call it DEAD

that a doctor could simply dismiss it as natural causes related to
weight more or less.

Ive been told I was a chunky fella a couple times, maybe even fat...
but not quite that harshly.  Definitely made me think about a few
things, as much as I dislike scare tactics when it comes to health.

Well in the midst of the shock treatment, he also had me come to a
heart wellness seminar that he does on some Saturdays in Mableton.

Nice little get together, he has folks from the community come in and
discuss Tai Chi, exercises, testimonials, all kinds of good stuff.

Then he shows the movie SUPERSIZE ME to set up the pitch for his 2PD
Omer approach that he has his patients use to lose weight.

In a nutshell, in his view, HOW MUCH you eat is more of the issue than
WHAT you eat and portion is more important than any fat content or
calories.

I agree with this.  This is why I have always been more successful on
more liquid diets (cabbage soup, slimfast, herbalife (tho dangerous))
than anything else.  I wasnt eating the portions I was before that..."

Source:

http://www.***.com/

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://www.***.com/



Thu, 08 Aug 2013 08:13:39 GMT
 Weight-Loss Surgery May 'Remodel' Heart
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:13:39 -0800 (PST), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>>>> Hunger destroys braincells.

>>>Incorrect.

>>>Source:

>>>http://groups

>>The scientific studies about hunger and braincells were made in Germany in about
>>2001/2002/2003. They are FACTS.

>Lie.

>Toxicology studies on brain cells are done in cell culture by
>subjecting them to chemicals like {*filter*}.  Hunger is not a
>chemical... never has been ... never will be. Truth is reality.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung has a list of more than 260 persons he wants to be
killed.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung's medical claims can - if followed - lead to death.
And he knows that. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be erased from the
planet.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a danger to the public.

                FAQ about the Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
                ========================================

19.2.2011

 0. Preword
 1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
 2. Andrew Ben Hua Chung and the Georgia medical board
 3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 4. verity about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
 5. GreatSageItchy about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 6. What the criminal stalker Andrew Ben-Hua Chung writes in his web-site
    The attorneys of state at Atlanta have homework to do!
 7. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 8. Jimmy Alpha about Andrew Ben Hua Chung
 9. Facts about the idiotic claims of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
10. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants people to be killed
11. The deathlist of Satan Ben Hua Chung: over 260 people he wants to be killed
12. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud; he spits on the Ten Commandments
13. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung {*filter*}s on dying patients and on dead patients.
14. Dr. Hildner's letter to Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung
15. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung lies IN PUBLIC *IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZABLE*
16. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a fraud: his domains are forgeries
17. Studies about hunger and brain shrinkage

0. Preword
----------

Today is May, 6th., 2010.

Since 14.9.2009 until now I received 9135 posts in this very news-group
sci.med.cardiology.

Of these 9135 posts 3228 are sent by Andrew Ben Hua Chung. His sole interest is
to harass and to stalk others.

Here are some quotes of examples:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:25:13 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Quote:

>There are others who are also observing that you are exhibiting
>psychopathology:

On Thu, 06 May 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

A look at the header reveals:


Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology

Subject: Politely asking Steve Hayes a 4th time here that simple yes/no question
that only the perishing can't answer with an affirmative ...

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a damned swine and criminal Net stalker, he even
terrorizes dying patients. Following his "advice" can lead to death.

The usenet is one of the most wonderful and important inventions in the history
of mankind. It is not meant to be abused by criminals like the {*filter*}ic stalker
Andrew Ben Hua Chung.

1. Andrew Ben Hua Chung is a swine
----------------------------------

Andrew Ben Hua Chung is no real doctor. He is a {*filter*}ic swine. He makes claims
(gives medical "advice"), which to follow can lead to death.

Hunger damages the brain tissue.

But Andrew Ben Hua Chung day for day bombs his shit into the Net. He terrorizes
persons who object him, by pulling off his insane religiot mumbo-jumbo.

Look at the state of various news-goups, including so important ones like

   sci.med.cardiology

His mess he bombs simltaneously into

sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.atheism

What the hell has alt.atheism to do with cardiology!?

Andrew Ben Hung Chung is a swine of a spammer. He copies the same shit uncounted
times as "reply" to objections against his shit.

What he does is by no means covered by "Free Speech".

He interferes public safety phones, this way violating the public safety rules.

He is a danger to public.

2. "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board
-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
"Andrew Ben-Hua Chung" and the Georgia medical board

Date: 1 Jan 2007 18:13:38 -0800
By the manner of his participation in this forum "Andrew Ben-Hua Chung"
may have violated the following section 360-3-.02 of the Rules of the
Georgia Medical Board ("Unprofessional Conduct Defined"):

(6) Providing treatment and/or consultation recommendations via
electronic or other means unless the licensee has performed a history and
physical examination of the patient adequate to establish differential diagnoses
and identify underlying conditions and/or contra- indications to the treatment
recommended.

(13) Practicing medicine while mentally, physically, or chemically impaired.

(14) Failing to use such means as history, physical examination, laboratory, or
radiographic studies, when applicable, to diagnose a medical problem.

In addition, the Board may require Dr. Chung to get a psych evaluation:

360-3-.04 Mental or Physical Evaluations.
(1) The Board may, upon reasonable grounds, require a licensee or
applicant to submit to a mental or physical examination by a physician and/or
evaluation program approved by the Board. The costs of the evaluation are the
responsibility of the licensee or applicant.

TO FILE A COMPLAINT:

Here is a link to the complaint form (copy and paste address text as
needed into browser address bar+remove any blank spaces):

http://www.***.com/

You will need this information to fill out the form:

License type: Medical Doctor
Name of licensee: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
Address of licensee: 5701 Mableton Parkway 2B, MABLETON, GA 30126

The form can be sent to (or you can call to get a form or file a
complaint, etc.):

Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
</quote>

3. Bob Pastorio about Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
------------------------------------------

http://www.***.com/

<quote>
7th March 07:42
bob pastorio

Just something for many of you to think about.
----------------------------------------------

It is laughter. It is consuming, driving, uncontrollable mirth. It is
the reaction to one of the most ironic posts I've ever seen. It is the
laughter of confirmation. It is the laughter that comes when the full
truth about you is revealed after myriad of your efforts to try to
conceal it.

You're hilarious, Chung. And you don't even get it.

But this leads to a more serious subject. It's this: I've come to the
realization that you actually believe the stuff you write here. That
it's terribly important to you despite your declarations to the
contrary, that it's just usenet. That it's merely usenet and not to be
taken seriously. Your gratitude for the "opportunity to witness before
so many" or words to that effect present a sobering picture. You
actually believe that your proselytizing in these threads will yield
good result. You believe that your tactics are acceptable because
others will hear your promotion of your idea of Christianity.

You have the zealotry of the fanatic. The unassailable conviction that
you have an exclusive grasp on truth. That you are perfect in your
understanding and perfect in your belief and that any means to present
that to others is acceptable. Thus you have taken a rather low road
for what you see as a high purpose.

I'm bowing out of all this, Chung. Not because I think you right, but
because I see that I overestimated you. I didn't really want to
believe that you were simply a fundamentalist Christian zealot. I
thought that a scientific background would create in you a desire for
evidence and proof or at least a rigorous logical perspective. One can
be a believer and still be a conscientious scientist. I know many such
people. You don't seem to be that person.

Your 2PoundDiet may be useful for a few, but I doubt it could have any
wider utility. I think it's superficial and too limited for general
application. It admits of no impulse and none of the pleasure of
either the cooking.net">food or the social table. You've utterly ignored the
communion and secondary issues of the table that have nothing to do
with cooking.net">food in your formulation. The children of parents doing 2PD
seeing no pleasure in the moment or the offerings will grow to wish to
avoid the setting. Particularly in the culture they're part of,
whichever it is. Every culture on earth makes a big deal of community
eating for the fellowship and respite. You've taken that away and
turned it into a mere fuel stop. It flies in the face of eons or human
evolution as social creatures. I certainly don't hate it; I think it's
a trifle.

You try to peddle the pejorative description of me as chef. As though
it were somehow degrading to be one. It's honest labor and I'm pleased
with my experience in cooking.net">food service and how I've affected the lives of
hundreds of employees and hundreds of thousands of diners. I'm pleased
with my life before that as an international marketer with big and
little companies. That's neither here nor there for this note. Just
information.

Actually, at this stage of my life, I'm more a writer than chef. More
than 1000 pieces published in newspapers and magazines across the US.
Pieces in encyclopedia to come out next year. Web sites for many
clients. Facts, rational and likely conclusions, and let the chips
fall ...

read more »



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