Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment 
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 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment

Since I am losing hair (male, 30 yrs) and I sorta hold
hair at a premium, I am seriously considering the use
of Minoxidil topical treatment (sold as Rogaine by
Upjohn).

I would be grateful if you folks can post your opinions
and experiences regarding this medication.

Does it stop hair loss?
Does it help new hair growth?
Side-effects?

So on,

Thanks,

Satya Prabhakar



Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:29:07 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment

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>Subject: Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment
>Date: 23 Jan 1995 08:29:07 CST
>Since I am losing hair (male, 30 yrs) and I sorta hold
>hair at a premium, I am seriously considering the use
>of Minoxidil topical treatment (sold as Rogaine by
>Upjohn).
>I would be grateful if you folks can post your opinions
>and experiences regarding this medication.
>Does it stop hair loss?
>Does it help new hair growth?
>Side-effects?

Yes, minoxidil does stop hair loss and help grow new hair.  The problems are
that the hair it grows is very thin, just like baby's hair, and if you stop
using it, all of the hair which has grown will very quickly fall out.  A
another problem is that it is quite expensive to use (e.g. $75.00 CDN per
month).

My personal suggestion is not to start using minoxidil and either resign
yourself to life with less hair or buy a toupee.  Either way, I think you'll
be alot happier.

Pat
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Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:53:27 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment

Quote:
> Yes, minoxidil does stop hair loss and help grow new hair.  The problems are
> that the hair it grows is very thin, just like baby's hair, and if you stop
> using it, all of the hair which has grown will very quickly fall out.  A
> another problem is that it is quite expensive to use (e.g. $75.00 CDN per
> month).

> My personal suggestion is not to start using minoxidil and either resign
> yourself to life with less hair or buy a toupee.  Either way, I think you'll
> be alot happier.

> Pat

If I am happy with the fact that it stops hair from falling or
falling so rapidly, should I be using it. In my case, I still
have a fair bit of hair and I would be happy if I can retain
what I have even if I don't grow new hair.

What do you recommend? Is it that once I stop using Minoxidil
I will lose all hair fast or just the new hair that grew thanks
to it? Please clarify.

Regarding cost, in US it is about $50 per month and $600 per
year if usage is twice daily. I think I may be able to save
pre-tax for it, so the cost comes down to about $300-400. And
if I use it once a day, it comes to about $150-$200, a small
cost over a year for what it can do.

Also, I think it should be going off patent sometime soon when
the prices will drop precipitously, no?

Satya Prabhakar



Sat, 12 Jul 1997 01:37:24 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment


   >If I am happy with the fact that it stops hair from falling or
   >falling so rapidly, should I be using it. In my case, I still
   >have a fair bit of hair and I would be happy if I can retain
   >what I have even if I don't grow new hair.

This stuff works best in men who still have a fair amount of hair.
You can think of minoxidil as increasing the growth cycle of the
hair follicle.  It keeps growing for a longer period of time and
doesn't rest as long.  In a sense, it superimposes a phenomenon
which tends to facilitate hair growth on top on another one
(androgenic alopecia) which tends to do just the opposite.
Eventually, the inevitable will happen--after a few years
you'll get less and less of an effect, but it will likely
keep your hair around longer than if you didn't use it.
Whether that's cosmetically (and financially) acceptable
is really only something you and your dermatologist can
determine.

Using the drug only once a day to save money isn't a good idea,
since its modest effects are seem only with twice-daily use.

   >What do you recommend? Is it that once I stop using Minoxidil
   >I will lose all hair fast or just the new hair that grew thanks
   >to it? Please clarify.

Stopping the drug will eventually cause new growth to fall out,
and it will no longer have the same effect on your follicle's
growth cycles.  This effect is pretty slow--you're not going
to wake up and suddenly lose all your hair.

   >Also, I think it should be going off patent sometime soon when
   >the prices will drop precipitously, no?

Hard to say.  This drug has been a real disappointment to Upjohn
shareholders (or should I say "hairholders"?), since its effects
are so relatively modest.  Add to that that it's still only avail-
able by Rx, and you have a small market.  I wonder if generic firms
would even bother to step in to produce a generic topical solution.

There is research underway to see whether the drug Proscar
(finasteride), a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor, works against
male pattern baldness.  5-alpha-reductase converts testosterone
to dihydrotestosterone, the active androgen in target tissues
like the skin and prostate.  Blocking this should prevent
some of the effects of androgens on the hair follicles.
Of course, taking a drug like this orally seems like a rather
draconian thing to do for what is essentially a cosmetic problem.
I believe that a topical formulation is also being studied.
I have no idea of the status of this research right now.
It may or may not pan out.

--
Steve Dyer



Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:59:23 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment

Quote:

> There is research underway to see whether the drug Proscar>
> (finasteride), a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor, works against male
> pattern baldness. ...  Of course, taking a drug like this orally seems
> like a rather draconian thing to do for what is essentially a cosmetic
> problem.

From what I've read, it sounds pretty harmless, though my understanding
is that it would probably work better at preventing than at reversing
baldness.  However, the fine print on the back of the ads always say
that you must prevent your partner from getting pregnant while you're
on this drug, and if she gets pregnant, the fetus must be aborted.

What terrible things do trace amounts of Proscar do to fetuses?  Thanks.
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Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:11:36 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment
        However, the fine print on the back of the ads always say
        that you must prevent your partner from getting pregnant while you're
        on this drug, and if she gets pregnant, the fetus must be aborted.

        What terrible things do trace amounts of Proscar do to fetuses?  Thanks.

The issue is that trace amounts of the drug may be found in {*filter*}.
I'm not sure how serious a threat this actually is (as opposed to
women taking it orally during pregnancy, a clearly illegitimate
application), but it's obvious that Merck doesn't want to take any
chances.

DHT may be involved in the {*filter*} differentiation of fetuses,
and by blocking its formation from testosterone, you could end
up with hypospadias, pseudohermaphroditism and other malformations
of the male reproductive tract.  This seems to occur in animal
studies.

--
Steve Dyer



Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:37:34 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment
: Since I am losing hair (male, 30 yrs) and I sorta hold
: hair at a premium, I am seriously considering the use
: of Minoxidil topical treatment (sold as Rogaine by
: Upjohn).
: I would be grateful if you folks can post your opinions
: and experiences regarding this medication.
: Thanks,
: Satya Prabhakar

For God's sake, before you spend a small fortune on Minoxidil, why not
give Polysorbate 80 a try?  It's a hell of a lot cheaper and may work
just as well!  Only one way to find out!

                          Bryan Shelton



Wed, 16 Jul 1997 16:08:10 GMT
 Experiences with Minoxidil (Rogaine) - hair loss treatment

: Also, I think it should be going off patent sometime soon when
: the prices will drop precipitously, no?

In Canada, it's open to generic companies already. Apotex markets it as
Apo-Gain at 2/3 to 1/2 the price I believe.

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