A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine 
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 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explained

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>Greetings;
> Having spent some time searching newsgroups today and several others,
> I was fortunate enough to come across your posting fairly early.
> Like the sir in the article, I to am a concerned father of a son
> diagnosed with ADD.  Likewise I also find it very disturbing how easily
> and how common this Ritalin is prescribed and advocated by most
> educational arenas.  From daycare (in the guise of trying to curb disruptive
> behavior at an early as possible age) to the elementary school. It puts a
> crack in my glass filled with hope to think that the people teaching
>my son are teaching him to also think with a narrow, closed mind.  

>Fortunately we decided to stop giving Ritalin them to him fairly early.
>Christ!!!   They started him at the ripe old age of 4.  So we, after
>seeing how he reacted to Ritalin, tried them ourselves to know what he was
>really going through. It was not all that pleasant.

> So what we were really interested in was the information that you found
>and hope to become one of the 1 mil. parents of an ADD child not on
>Ritalin.

Thank you very much for your important letter.  Although the subjects of ADD and
ADHD can be very complex and sometimes controversial, I will give you some resources
so you can continue your research on these subjects .  I understand those feelings
concerning the drugging your child at the tender age of four, and I agree with your
outrage.

In the 1980's the psychiatric industry made a scandalous claim that over a lifetime,
one-third of Americans will need some psychiatric care.  Federal officials with
close ties to this psychiatric industry overbuilt and overspent on psychiatric
hospitals, furthermore, way more doctors went into psychiatry then were really
needed.  The psychiatric industry claimed that "sixty million Americans--including
twelve million children--require psychiatric services," most of it involving
hospitalization.  

During the Reagan years, the revenues of private psychiatric hospitals in this
country--not counting the psychiatric facilities in general hospitals--jumped from
$1 billion to nearly $7 billion.  As the mental health care boom took off,
psychiatrists at some private hospitals were making between $600,000 and $900,000 a
year.

Public programs serving people with mental illnesses absorb about $20 billion a
year, and, as the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill warns, that because there
is so little auditing or oversight of the spending, "it is a situation ready made
for theft."

Since the Johnson presidency, when {*filter*} replaced confinement in state mental
hospitals and thousands of inmates were turned out on the streets, the government
has sponsored community health centers for the purpose of helping people who, though
seriously ill, need not be restrained.  Since then, billions of dollars have been
handed out to build, staff and operate the centers--and most of this money has been
wasted or worse.  The organizations that got construction grants swore they would
provide five basic services for twenty years.  Investigators found that of the
nearly 600 groups that gobbled up the federal dollars, only thirty were operating as
Congress had intended.

The biggest rip-off has taken place not in these community centers but in private
psychiatric hospitals and in general hospitals psychiatric wings.  With at least 40
percent of all public and private hospital beds occupied by psychiatric and
substance abuse patients, mental health is by far the largest single revenue source.  
Four big national corporations account for seven out of ten for-profit psychiatric
beds in the United States, and the industry only helps the cases who have insurance.  

At some psychiatric hospitals, the patients were {*filter*}agers whose only sign of mental
problems was that they had failed to do their homework or had sassed their parents.  
The cure for such terrible problems wasn't cheap.  A survey by the "Wall Street
Journal" put the average per case billing for psychiatric care for an adolescent at
$18,000--far more than most serious medical treatments such as major surgery.  Kids
are great business, in part because it actually costs less to treat them than
{*filter*}s.

Some books about the health care system in general are:

*Profit Fever: The Drive to Corporatize Health Care and How To Stop It.  By Charles
Andrews.  Common Courage Press.  1995

*The Serpent on the Staff: The Unhealthy Politics of the American Medical
Association.  By Howard Wolinsky and Tom Brune.  Tarcher/Putnam  1994

*The Great White Lie: Dishonesty, Waste, and Incompetence in the Medical community.  
By Walt Bogdanich.  Touchstone  1991

*Marketplace Medicine: The Rise of the For-Profit Hospital Chains.  By Dave
Lindroff.  Bantam  1992

*Beyond Crisis: Confronting Health Care in the United States.  Edited by Nancy F.
McKenzie.  Meridan  1994

*The Social Transformation of American Medicine: The Rise of a Sovereign Profession
and the Making of a Vast Industry.  By Paul Starr.  Basic  1982.

Books on ADD and ADHD

* The Myth of the ADD Child - Dr. Thomas Armstrong
*A Family of Values - John Rosemond
*Normal Children Have Problems Too- Stanley Turecki



Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine


What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
doctor?



Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

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>What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
>previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
>doctor?

What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
previously ask this 50 times already?
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Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

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> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
> >doctor?

> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
> previously ask this 50 times already?

Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

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Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine



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>>> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
>>> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
>>> >doctor?

>>> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
>>> previously ask this 50 times already?

>>Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

>Have you ever thought that it's because he is a doctor?

Are you familiar with the term "rabbinical rhetoric," Tim?

Joe Parsons



Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

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>> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
>> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
>> >doctor?

>> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
>> previously ask this 50 times already?
>Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

Have you ever thought that it's because he is a doctor?
--

STOP THE POLITICALLY CORRECT THOUGHT POLICE!
Annoy a fascist -- Say no to public school uniforms & year-round school!
*** TIM BROWN FOR CONGRESS '98 *** STOP HDTV! *** CENSORSHIP IS FASCISM! ***


Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

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> >> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
> >> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
> >> >doctor?

> >> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
> >> previously ask this 50 times already?

> >Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

> Have you ever thought that it's because he is a doctor?

Dr. of what?  I seem to remember when I first started reading
the groups that he made an admission he did not have any credentials
that supported prefixing Dr. to his name, then he keeps comine
back with this Dr. again.  Even Dr. Ruth earned the right to call
herself a Doctor.  Do you know why he calls himself Dr.?
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Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine

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>>>> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
>>>> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
>>>> >doctor?

>>>> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
>>>> previously ask this 50 times already?

>>>Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

>>Have you ever thought that it's because he is a doctor?
>Are you familiar with the term "rabbinical rhetoric," Tim?

Is this that game where you hold a conversation using questions, and the
first one to say something which isnt a question, loses?  I've never been
any good at it myself.

Aw, shucks.

Tak



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine


Quote:







>>>>> >What is the basis of your claim to be a Dr.?  Didn't you
>>>>> >previously admit that you do not have the credentials to be a
>>>>> >doctor?

>>>>> What is the basis of your asking this stupid question?  Didn't you
>>>>> previously ask this 50 times already?

>>>>Yes.  Do you know the basis of his use of Dr.?

>>>Have you ever thought that it's because he is a doctor?

>>Are you familiar with the term "rabbinical rhetoric," Tim?

>Is this that game where you hold a conversation using questions, and the
>first one to say something which isnt a question, loses?  I've never been
>any good at it myself.

Rabbinical rhetoric refers to the time-honored technique of answering
questions with other questions; it has been used from time immemorial in
selling:

"Does that car come in white?"

"Do you WANT it in white?"

It's also used frequently to be evasive:

"Did you mess up my stereo?"

"What makes you think it's not working right?" or "Why are you asking
ME?"

My favorite example, though, is more closely related to the term itself:

"Rabbi, why do you always answer a question with another question?"

"Do I do that?"

If you review some of the posts from some of the more argumentative
people here in ASAD, you'll often see rabbinical rhetoric in action.

Joe Parsons



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine


Quote:



>[snip?]

>>If you review some of the posts from some of the more argumentative
>>people here in ASAD, you'll often see rabbinical rhetoric in action.

>>Joe Parsons

>Are you referring to me?

>Steve?

Have we met?

JMP



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine



Quote:
>>Are you referring to me?

>>Steve?

>Have we met?

>JMP

What makes you think so?

Steve



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine


Quote:



>>>Are you referring to me?

>>>Steve?

>>Have we met?

>>JMP

>What makes you think so?

Did you wake up this morning with the specific intention of giving me a
hard time?

JMP

Quote:

>Steve



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine



Quote:




>>>>Are you referring to me?

>>>>Steve?

>>>Have we met?

>>>JMP

>>What makes you think so?

>Did you wake up this morning with the specific intention of giving me a
>hard time?

Are you implying that I awoke this morning with the capacity of having
any intentions whatsoever?

Perhaps I should answer in another manner?

Are there specific percieved intentions attributable to me that you
have diificulty with?

Are we not insane?

Cannot any and all of this be explained away with a simple wave of
Slight of hand, Slip of mind, Lapse of reason, or Slap of face?
Or perhaps Slurp of beer?

Can I go home now?

Can I have some icecream now, Mommy?

Hmmm?

steve



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 A Response From a "1000 Parent of Light"//Mental-Health Rip-Offs Explaine



[snip?]

Quote:
>If you review some of the posts from some of the more argumentative
>people here in ASAD, you'll often see rabbinical rhetoric in action.

>Joe Parsons

Are you referring to me?

Steve?



Sun, 24 Oct 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 
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