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> >...actually, to make a long story short, Ritalin is an amphetamine-type
> >stimulant... often prescribed by shrinks for the social control of bored
> >schoolchildren under the pretext of treating so-called "Attention Deficit
> >Disorder."

>         Ah, so another moron decides that ADD doesn't exist regardless of
> the number of observed cases in children and {*filter*}s.  Wonderful.  While
> you're working on solving the world's problems through denial, start
> disbelieving clinical depression, bipolar disorder, and for that matter,
> cancer, and AIDS.

Well, I can only speak from my own (and my family's) experience.  A couple
of years ago the public school system tried to label my daughter ADD.  At
the time, I was unfamiliar with the term.  I became somewhat suspicious
when I was given a parent survey form, and noticed that a) the same
behavior that is considered healthy (non-ADD behavior) for a boy is
considered symptomatic of ADD in a girl, and b) most of the "symptoms" of
ADD could apply to any bright, bored kid.

(Now, this was the same public school system that informed my parents that
my 5-year-old little brother was retarded.  That was the "in" diagnosis at
the time; if this were happening now, they would have labeled him ADD
instead.  My little "retarded" brother graduated from a prestigious
university a few years ago, and is now gaining respect from management and
techies alike in his job with a large well-known software company.  Many
family members have commented that my daughter is much like him in
temperament and personality.)

Needless to say, I pulled my daughter out of that school, and placed her in
a small private school.  What a surprise; her ADD "symptoms" disappeared!
She's also been seeing a therapist who agrees that there's no way this kid
has ADD.

I tend to agree that the public schools are using the "ADD" label as a
convenient excuse to drug bright and creative children into complacency,
and I'd advise any parent out there who is told that their child may have
ADD to consider other possible causes and solutions.  I'm not saying that
there is no such thing as inherent ADD, but I, personally, have yet to see
any evidence of it.  I basing my opinion on actual experience; if that
makes me a "moron", then so be it.

-- Sandra
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I'm sure that ADD exists, but the alarming number of new diagnosis should
be an automatic red light.  Seems to me that the symptoms of ADD are the
same as the symptoms of boredom.  I don't know if the schools are doing
this to drug kids into complacency, but it sure is the effect.  I tend to
shy away from {*filter*} theories of this large a scope.  Unless a child
is a danger to himself or others, medication for psychosis should be a
VERY distant consideration.  I can't figure why meds are even considered
before therapy is attempted.
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>My son was diagnosed with ADD today by a neurologist hired by the school
>district.
>after a 20-minute physical exam and a brief history from
>me, diagnosed my son with ADD
>He then told me that my son should start Ritalin -- today.  I have heard
>horror stories about Ritalin on TV, and in newspapers--I don't think I
>could start my son on Ritalin based on a 20-minute exam.

I hope the above exchange will help you examine the m{*filter*}and ethical
implications  of being forced to "drug" your child senseless, especially after he was
given a "{*filter*}" diagnosis of ADD.  The choice, or course, is your to make,
but rushing hurly-burly into a long-term treatment of potentially dangerous
medication could be ill-advised.  This so-called solution to "ADD" could tragically
alter his personality forever, thus leaving you with a sense of guilt and horror
when you discover that you were purposely misinformed and deceived into
giving consent to a risky and unproven remedy.  Furthermore, the question of
long-term side-effects of certain medications like "Ritalin" have at best
been unresolved and at worst have been clincially proven to cause cancer
and other dreaded diseases.

Be very careful with your decision, as even on these newsgroup there
are "rogue" elements that try to discredit those that have been harmed
by "forced" medication, similar to your predicament.  If you are able to read this,
rest assured that you are not alone in your concerns.  The United States has the
dubious distinction of having the greatest number (per capita and total cases) of ADD
in the world;  moreover, Ritalin usage in America is greater  then the rest of the
world COMBINED.  So please, voice your suspicions to other parents,
concerned citizens and medical professionals before you decide on any
course of action.

This World had gotten along swimmingly before "ADD" was "discovered"
and well before "Cylert", "Ritalin" or "Dex" were used to "cure" it.
Let me conclude by saying that ADD is a real syndrome, but the
amount of cases being diagnosed is ten to twenty times higher
than it should be.  Please ask me for a reference of useful books
on this subject and do not be distracted by the Pro-Medication
Lobby.  Thank you.

Dr. R. X. Frager



Sat, 25 Dec 1999 03:00:00 GMT
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Well, here's my 2 cents...

My son had learning and behavior problems in school this past school
year. He is 8 years old and was in second grade. His teacher and I
talked about what he was experiencing and she tried some different
things in the classroom and at home, none of which seemed to help.

At no time did she mention adhd or ritalin. I would have thought it
incredibly inappropriate for her to do so, as this is a medical
diganosis and she is not a doctor.

On my own, I had my son evaluated by a child psychiatrist, who took a
long history from my husband and me, and from his classroom teacher, and
spent three one-hour sessions with my son before diagnosing him as adhd.

The shrink recommended 5mg of ritalin at 7:30am on school days only.
Period. No other time. The ritalin, he emphasized, is an adjunct to
behavior modification. (In other words, kids with ritalin have to learn
how to handle themselves, without the drug.)

I resisted for quite a while, and researched things like herbs and the
Feingold diet.

We finally did start the ritalin in April and the change was absolutely
astonishing. My spacey, goofy 8 year old son ASKED for the ritalin
before school because his experience was so much better WITH the
ritalin.

He was much calmer, his handwriting improved, his concentration
improved, he was able to complete his classroom work, he stopped
antagonizing and blaming other children for his problems.

This is not what the teacher said. This is what I observed. I
volunteered in his classrooms two mornings per week so I was able to see
for myself what was happening.

This summer we are working {*filter*} a "chart" with chores on it -- he now
has to earn his allowance by assuming some responsibilities. Seems to be
working, slowly.

I WOULD NEVER TELL OTHER PARENTS WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR CHILDREN. It is a
decision we all have to make for ourselves. I still have great concern
about giving my child ritalin. But until something better comes along,
that's what we are doing.

--
Donna

Hatred can never cease by hatred. Hatred can only cease by love. This is
an eternal law.
--The Buddha



Mon, 27 Dec 1999 03:00:00 GMT
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> At no time did she mention adhd or ritalin. I would have thought it
> incredibly inappropriate for her to do so, as this is a medical
> diganosis and she is not a doctor.

I don't think it's inappropriate for a teacher to *mention* ADD and suggest
an evaluation. There may be parents out there who are unaware of the
symptoms or even where to have an evaluation done. To have a knowledgable
teacher to help point them in the right direction is a good thing.

Now, for a teacher to suggest any certain type of medication, or that a
child start, stop, increase or decrease any medication would most certainly
be inappropriate.

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> The shrink recommended 5mg of ritalin at 7:30am on school days only.
> Period. No other time. The ritalin, he emphasized, is an adjunct to
> behavior modification. (In other words, kids with ritalin have to learn
> how to handle themselves, without the drug.)

How's his behavior in the afternoon? 5mgs once a day doesn't seem like it'd
be enough to last the whole school day even.

Yes, behavior modification and coping strategies are important, but
remember that some people (and kids are people too) will not be able to
implement them without the medication.

What you said here was kinda confusing to me, so I looked up the meaning of
"adjunct" to make sure I was thinking of it correctly....

It means as a noun: Something added to another.
As an adjective: Addtional, especially in a subordinate sense.

I think if your doctor used this word he was trying to stress the
importance of behavior modification and coping strategies, not that your
son would *have* to learn how to handle himself without medication.

That's not to say that he should have to take medication forever. I'm
saying it should always be available to him, and no one should make him
believe he is a bad person if he cannot put the behavior mods or coping
strategies into use without the meds. Please remember this, it is important
to his self-esteem.



Mon, 27 Dec 1999 03:00:00 GMT
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>> At no time did she mention adhd or ritalin. I would have thought it
>> incredibly inappropriate for her to do so, as this is a medical
>> diganosis and she is not a doctor.

>Now, for a teacher to suggest any certain type of medication, or that a
>child start, stop, increase or decrease any medication would most certainly
>be inappropriate.

     Nod, though even that can be a touchy subject.  "I had another
student who had problems just like your child; with ritalin, that
student flourished and was a lot happier!" is a time when ritalin
might be mentioned (not "recommended"), and "your child seems to get
really lethargic around two o'clock, so you might want to see if a
dosage adjustment is necessary" is a time when a mentioning of
increasing or decreasing a dosage would be appropriate.

     Both of those are semi-sorta dangerous, but they're also the
types of things that a teacher CAN see that a parent might not.

Quote:
>> The shrink recommended 5mg of ritalin at 7:30am on school days only.
>> Period. No other time. The ritalin, he emphasized, is an adjunct to
>> behavior modification. (In other words, kids with ritalin have to learn
>> how to handle themselves, without the drug.)

>How's his behavior in the afternoon? 5mgs once a day doesn't seem like it'd
>be enough to last the whole school day even.

     It depends; I started on 5mg once a day; it might even be that
I'll end on that if my theory about my seasonal affective disorder
holds water.  But then, I'll still want to have some ritalin to help
me with deadline-times. . . those times I *HAVE* to sit down and work
RIGHT NOW and not get distracted.


Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 
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