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skivee philip #1 / 23
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 Marijuana and asthma
I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. Thank you all. Phil
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Thu, 16 May 1996 07:58:56 GMT |
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John David Rege #2 / 23
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>I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma >sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. >Thank you all.
This sounds kind of hard to believe. I had pretty severe asthma as a child, and anything but fresh air was irritating to breathe - especially smoke. Just MHO, since I stopped having asthma problems years before I ever smoked dope. - John Regehr
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Fri, 17 May 1996 10:46:55 GMT |
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Allen #3 / 23
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 Marijuana and asthma
i think {*filter*} relaxes the smooth muscle in alveoli, and may counter the effects of asthma through this mechanism...
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Fri, 17 May 1996 15:26:35 GMT |
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Marko S Asplu #4 / 23
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: I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma : sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. : Thank you all. : Phil A book called The emperor wears no clothes knows something about it. I've heard that pot works like asthma {*filter*} (i.e. Ventoline) which make the lugn tubes bigger. But don't mix it with tobacco because it has the opposite effect. --
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Fri, 17 May 1996 17:17:30 GMT |
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G T Cla #5 / 23
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 Marijuana and asthma
{*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better. G.
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Fri, 17 May 1996 20:21:55 GMT |
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Deanne H Morg #6 / 23
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: I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma : sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. : Thank you all. As an asthmatic, I can say from personal experience (and that of numerous friends) that even "casual" exposure [i.e. walking past the room of someone in residence who is smoking pot at teh time, even with their door closed and window open] to {*filter*} smoke is enough to cause rather severe bronchospasm. Cigar, pipe and often cigarette smoke do the same thing... So, I would say that no it doesn't help. On the other hand, coffee does! DHM.
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Fri, 17 May 1996 22:18:43 GMT |
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ms_cra.. #7 / 23
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> : I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma > : sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. > : Thank you all. > As an asthmatic, I can say from personal experience (and that of numerous > friends) that even "casual" exposure [i.e. walking past the room of > someone in residence who is smoking pot at teh time, even with their door > closed and window open] to {*filter*} smoke is enough to cause rather > severe bronchospasm. Cigar, pipe and often cigarette smoke do the same > thing...
Maybe true for you, but not for me. I am an asthmatic also and smoking mj allows me to actually breathe easier. Of course if I even try to smoke a cigarette (like I'd want to, but nonetheless...) I'll be coughing and hacking for hours. I believe there is a reference to this in the book "Marihuana The Forbidden Medicine" by Lester Grinspoon, MD and James B. Bakalar. Also check out the New England Journal of Medicine volume 289 (1973), pp. 336-341 and the American Review of Respiratory Disease volume 112 (1975), pp. 377-386. Enjoy. Peace, Matt
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Fri, 17 May 1996 14:37:33 GMT |
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Lawrence Foa #8 / 23
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Quote: > {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't >been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and >possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone >intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance >smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any >real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better.
Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months after I gave up pot. Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake for long periods :) On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one person who ended up in the hospital this way. -- ------ Legalize: >--<o | If we where meant to hack God would . \ / :-)-~ o>--< | have given us jacks. . . \ / You are ~1,000,000,000,000,000 .1ms NAND gates have a nice day. . . . \/ The true theory of everything will run on a finite turing machine. . . .
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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:03:14 GMT |
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Michael Covingt #9 / 23
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Smoke particles (flying tarballs) can't possibly be good for asthma, can they? Whether the drug itself has any effect I don't know, but smoke does not seem like a good way to administer it. -- < Michael A. Covington, Assc Rsch Scientist, Artificial Intelligence Programs >
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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:59:19 GMT |
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Lamont Granqui #10 / 23
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Quote: >A book called The emperor wears no clothes knows something about it. >I've heard that pot works like asthma {*filter*} (i.e. Ventoline) which make >the lugn tubes bigger. But don't mix it with tobacco because it has the >opposite effect.
It's a bronchodilator. Of course it has other effects on the lung as well, which probably offset this -- particularly in the long-term. --
"Where you can speak out loud about your doubts and fears And whats more, no one ever disappears You never hear their standard issue kicking in your door" -PF
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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:59:26 GMT |
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Sol Lightm #11 / 23
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]> ]> {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't ]>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and ]>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone ]>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance ]>smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any ]>real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better. ]Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college ]my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months ]after I gave up pot. I have no clue about the allergies (it reaks havoc on mine) but, yes, the effect is on the lung. THC, the mind-active ingredient in {*filter*}, and possibly other chemicals in {*filter*}, dialate the small air passageways in the lungs. This can be used to releive asthma. Eating {*filter*} will not work, unless you eat it all the time, for two reasons. First, when you eat {*filter*} the THC must travel through your digestive system to get to your lungs -- this could take 10 to 30 minutes. Second, the concentration of THC in the lungs when you eat THC is much lower than smoking, which passes virtually all of the THC into the body through the lungs. So, inhaling {*filter*} is the proper way to use it for asthma. *But* some asthma sufferers may be allergic to {*filter*} smoke or even THC itself. It would be best to try {*filter*} once or twice when you are not having an attack, instead of trying it first thing, if you were planning on using it for this purpose. Smoking it during a bad attack, unless you are an experienced user, is a bad idea -- you are likely to make things worse. Always try to reduce the harshness of the smoke -- i.e. use a bong. Optimally, THC could be extracted and used in an inhaler, but current laws make this very difficult. The less smoke, the better. ]Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to ]believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then ]even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake ]for long periods :) {*filter*} has no evident effect on the immune system. A comprehensive review of all {*filter*} related immunology research determined that no effect has been scientifically established. Many studies have appeared saying {*filter*} damages immunity, but they have been discounted due to errors or bad research procedure. ``{*filter*} and Immunity'' by Leo E. Hollister M.D.; Journal of Psycho-Active {*filter*} Vol 24(2), Apr-Jun 1992 pp159-164 ]On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one ]person who ended up in the hospital this way. I have an aquaintance who uses it to stay *out* of the emergency room... It's highly dependant on the person, I guess. Brian -- The University of Massachusetts at Amherst | _________,^-. {*filter*} Reform Coalition ( | ) ,> S.A.O. Box #2 \|/ { 415 Student Union Building `-^-' ? )
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Sun, 19 May 1996 01:09:21 GMT |
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Eli Bran #12 / 23
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Quote: > {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't >been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and >possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone >intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance >smoke it.
A dissenting opinion: Smoked THC vs. inhaled isoproterenol: Tashkin et al., "Effects of Smoked {*filter*} in Experimentally Induced Asthma", Amer. Rvw. of Respiratory Disease 112 (1975): 377-386. [smoked THC had slower, longer effect] Also note: Inhaled THC vs. isoproterenol: Vachon et al., "Airways response to Aerosolized Delta-9-THC: Preliminary Report", in _The Therapeutic Potential of {*filter*}_, ed. Cohen and Stillman. [inhaled THC had faster, shorter effect]
PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail "I have noticed an interesting overlap between radical libertarians, crypto- anarchists, psychopunks, and people who promote {*filter*}." -- L. Detweiler
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Sun, 19 May 1996 10:08:28 GMT |
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G T Cla #13 / 23
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>> {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't >>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and >>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone >>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance >>smoke it. >A dissenting opinion: >Smoked THC vs. inhaled isoproterenol: Tashkin et al., "Effects of > Smoked {*filter*} in Experimentally Induced Asthma", Amer. > Rvw. of Respiratory Disease 112 (1975): 377-386. > [smoked THC had slower, longer effect] >Also note: >Inhaled THC vs. isoproterenol: Vachon et al., "Airways response to > Aerosolized Delta-9-THC: Preliminary Report", in _The > Therapeutic Potential of {*filter*}_, ed. Cohen and Stillman. > [inhaled THC had faster, shorter effect]
Interesting. I would still suspect that the risk of longterm lung damage would outweigh the benefit. After all, asthma is for life, not just for Christmas. Although, of course, if you know of any work on this, or even any authoritative opinions, I'd be more than happy to hear about them. G.
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Sun, 19 May 1996 22:33:48 GMT |
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bac.. #14 / 23
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>> {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't >>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and >>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone >>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance >>smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any >>real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better. > Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college > my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months > after I gave up pot.
Sumner Burstein at UMass Medical School has done most of the research in this area. They found (Biochemical Pharmacology 1975;24:1053-1054) that examination of the essential oil fraction obtained from marihuana by steam distillation revealed the presence of eugenol, an inhibitor of prostaglandin synthesis. Recently, eugenol was found to be a lipoxygenase inhibitor as well. Lipoxygenase inhibitors are used successfully in treating asthma. Quote: > Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to > believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then > even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake > for long periods :)
Well, THC affects: acetylcholine metabolism, biogenic amine levels, neurotransmitter uptake release and synthesis, enzyme induction, inhibition of cytoplasmic DNA synthesis, androgen levels, gonadotropins, corticoids, thyroid and growth hormones, glucose and insulin resistance, fatty acids, cholesterol esters, phospholipids, triglycerides, steroids, prostaglandins, and cyclic AMP. Each of these can affect immune parameters and it would be difficult to isolate which one exactly was affecting the immune system. Josh
Quote: > On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one > person who ended up in the hospital this way. > -- > ------ Legalize: >--<o | If we where meant to hack God would . > \ / :-)-~ o>--< | have given us jacks. . . > \ / You are ~1,000,000,000,000,000 .1ms NAND gates have a nice day. . . . > \/ The true theory of everything will run on a finite turing machine. . . .
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Sun, 19 May 1996 20:53:33 GMT |
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Freako De Sa #15 / 23
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>>I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma >>sufferers, ist this true? If it is, can someone provide any literature. >>Thank you all. >This sounds kind of hard to believe. I had pretty severe asthma as a >child, and anything but fresh air was irritating to breathe - >especially smoke. >Just MHO, since I stopped having asthma problems years before I ever >smoked dope. > - John Regehr
now i think the really obvious thing here is that you DON'T smoke it!!! it IS possible to eat mj yer know... and it can actually be used in this form as medication for a number of ailments such as asthma and epilepsy to name a few... Freako -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- suburbia.apana.org.au Suburbia Public Access Unix - 24 Hr Internet Connection - +61 3 596 8366 ===============================================================================
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Mon, 20 May 1996 11:52:10 GMT |
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