Marijuana and asthma 
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 Marijuana and asthma

I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
Thank you all.

Phil



Thu, 16 May 1996 07:58:56 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:

>I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
>sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
>Thank you all.

This sounds kind of hard to believe.  I had pretty severe asthma as a
child, and anything but fresh air was irritating to breathe -
especially smoke.

Just MHO, since I stopped having asthma problems years before I ever
smoked dope.

                                                - John Regehr



Fri, 17 May 1996 10:46:55 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma
i think {*filter*} relaxes the smooth muscle in alveoli, and may counter the
effects of asthma through this mechanism...


Fri, 17 May 1996 15:26:35 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma
: I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
: sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
: Thank you all.

: Phil
A book called The emperor wears no clothes knows something about it.
I've heard that pot works like asthma {*filter*} (i.e. Ventoline) which make
the lugn tubes bigger. But don't mix it with tobacco because it has the
opposite effect.
--



Fri, 17 May 1996 17:17:30 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

        {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any
real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better.

                        G.



Fri, 17 May 1996 20:21:55 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma
: I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
: sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
: Thank you all.

As an asthmatic, I can say from personal experience (and that of numerous
friends) that even "casual" exposure [i.e. walking past the room of
someone in residence who is smoking pot at teh time, even with their door
closed and window open] to {*filter*} smoke is enough to cause rather
severe bronchospasm.  Cigar, pipe and often cigarette smoke do the same
thing...

So, I would say that no it doesn't help.  On the other hand, coffee does!

DHM.



Fri, 17 May 1996 22:18:43 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:

> : I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
> : sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
> : Thank you all.

> As an asthmatic, I can say from personal experience (and that of numerous
> friends) that even "casual" exposure [i.e. walking past the room of
> someone in residence who is smoking pot at teh time, even with their door
> closed and window open] to {*filter*} smoke is enough to cause rather
> severe bronchospasm.  Cigar, pipe and often cigarette smoke do the same
> thing...

Maybe true for you, but not for me.  I am an asthmatic also and smoking mj
allows me to actually breathe easier.  Of course if I even try to smoke a
cigarette (like I'd want to, but nonetheless...) I'll be coughing and hacking
for hours.  I believe there is a reference to this in the book "Marihuana The
Forbidden Medicine" by Lester Grinspoon, MD and James B. Bakalar.  Also check
out the New England Journal of Medicine volume 289 (1973), pp. 336-341 and the
American Review of Respiratory Disease volume 112 (1975), pp. 377-386.  Enjoy.

Peace,

Matt



Fri, 17 May 1996 14:37:33 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma


Quote:

>    {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
>smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any
>real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better.

Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college
my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months
after I gave up pot.
Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to
believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then
even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake
for long periods :)
On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one
person who ended up in the hospital this way.

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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:03:14 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma
Smoke particles (flying tarballs) can't possibly be good for asthma,
can they?  Whether the drug itself has any effect I don't know, but
smoke does not seem like a good way to administer it.

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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:59:19 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:
>A book called The emperor wears no clothes knows something about it.
>I've heard that pot works like asthma {*filter*} (i.e. Ventoline) which make
>the lugn tubes bigger. But don't mix it with tobacco because it has the
>opposite effect.

It's a bronchodilator.  Of course it has other effects on the lung as
well, which probably offset this -- particularly in the long-term.
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Sat, 18 May 1996 02:59:26 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma



]>
]>   {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
]>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
]>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
]>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
]>smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any
]>real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better.

]Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college
]my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months
]after I gave up pot.

I have no clue about the allergies (it reaks havoc on mine) but, yes, the
effect is on the lung.  THC, the mind-active ingredient in {*filter*}, and
possibly other chemicals in {*filter*}, dialate the small air passageways
in the lungs.  This can be used to releive asthma.  Eating {*filter*} will
not work, unless you eat it all the time, for two reasons.  First, when you
eat {*filter*} the THC must travel through your digestive system to get
to your lungs -- this could take 10 to 30 minutes.  Second, the concentration
of THC in the lungs when you eat THC is much lower than smoking, which
passes virtually all of the THC into the body through the lungs.

So, inhaling {*filter*} is the proper way to use it for asthma.  *But* some
asthma sufferers may be allergic to {*filter*} smoke or even THC itself.
It would be best to try {*filter*} once or twice when you are not having
an attack, instead of trying it first thing, if you were planning on using
it for this purpose.  Smoking it during a bad attack, unless you are an
experienced user, is a bad idea -- you are likely to make things worse.

Always try to reduce the harshness of the smoke -- i.e. use a bong.  
Optimally, THC could be extracted and used in an inhaler, but current
laws make this very difficult.  The less smoke, the better.

]Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to
]believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then
]even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake
]for long periods :)

{*filter*} has no evident effect on the immune system.  A comprehensive
review of all {*filter*} related immunology research determined that no
effect has been scientifically established.  Many studies have appeared
saying {*filter*} damages immunity, but they have been discounted due
to errors or bad research procedure.  

``{*filter*} and Immunity'' by Leo E. Hollister M.D.; Journal of Psycho-Active
{*filter*} Vol 24(2), Apr-Jun 1992 pp159-164

]On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one
]person who ended up in the hospital this way.

I have an aquaintance who uses it to stay *out* of the emergency room...

It's highly dependant on the person, I guess.

Brian

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Sun, 19 May 1996 01:09:21 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:
>    {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
>smoke it.

A dissenting opinion:
Smoked THC vs. inhaled isoproterenol: Tashkin et al., "Effects of
        Smoked {*filter*} in Experimentally Induced Asthma", Amer.
        Rvw. of Respiratory Disease 112 (1975): 377-386.
        [smoked THC had slower, longer effect]

Also note:
Inhaled THC vs. isoproterenol: Vachon et al., "Airways response to
        Aerosolized Delta-9-THC: Preliminary Report", in _The
        Therapeutic Potential of {*filter*}_, ed. Cohen and Stillman.
        [inhaled THC had faster, shorter effect]


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Sun, 19 May 1996 10:08:28 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:


>>        {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
>>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
>>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
>>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
>>smoke it.
>A dissenting opinion:
>Smoked THC vs. inhaled isoproterenol: Tashkin et al., "Effects of
>    Smoked {*filter*} in Experimentally Induced Asthma", Amer.
>    Rvw. of Respiratory Disease 112 (1975): 377-386.
>    [smoked THC had slower, longer effect]
>Also note:
>Inhaled THC vs. isoproterenol: Vachon et al., "Airways response to
>    Aerosolized Delta-9-THC: Preliminary Report", in _The
>    Therapeutic Potential of {*filter*}_, ed. Cohen and Stillman.
>    [inhaled THC had faster, shorter effect]


        Interesting. I would still suspect that the risk of longterm lung
damage would outweigh the benefit. After all, asthma is for life, not
just for Christmas. Although, of course, if you know of any work on
this, or even any authoritative opinions, I'd be more than happy to hear
about them.

                        G.



Sun, 19 May 1996 22:33:48 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:



>>        {*filter*} is supposed by some (for obvious reasons there hasn't
>>been a huge amount of research into this) to be good for asthma, and
>>possibly other lung disorders. The point to note is that anyone
>>intending to use it for this purpose shouldn't under any circumstance
>>smoke it. This would almost certainly make things worse. If there's any
>>real effect, then eating the stuff would probably be far better.

> Are you sure the effect is on the lungs? When I smoked pot in college
> my allergies (nose,sinuses, eyes, etc.) went away, coming back 2 months
> after I gave up pot.

Sumner Burstein at UMass Medical School has done most of the research in this
area. They found (Biochemical Pharmacology 1975;24:1053-1054) that examination
of the essential oil fraction obtained from marihuana by steam distillation
revealed the presence of eugenol, an inhibitor of prostaglandin synthesis.
Recently, eugenol was found to be a lipoxygenase inhibitor as well.
Lipoxygenase inhibitors are used successfully in treating asthma.

Quote:
> Does anyone know what pot does to the immune system? I find it hard to
> believe that it suppresses it in general, since I was hardly ever sick then
> even survived being exposed to mono numerous times after being awake
> for long periods :)

Well, THC affects: acetylcholine metabolism, biogenic amine levels,
neurotransmitter uptake release and synthesis, enzyme induction, inhibition of
cytoplasmic DNA synthesis, androgen levels, gonadotropins, corticoids, thyroid
and growth hormones, glucose and insulin resistance, fatty acids,
cholesterol esters, phospholipids, triglycerides, steroids, prostaglandins,
and cyclic AMP. Each of these can affect immune parameters and it would be
difficult to isolate which one exactly was affecting the immune system.

Josh

Quote:
> On the otherhand I don't think I'd risk smoking it for asthma I know one
> person who ended up in the hospital this way.

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> \    /  :-)-~             o>--< | have given us jacks.                  . .
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>   \/ The true theory of everything will run on a finite turing machine. . . .



Sun, 19 May 1996 20:53:33 GMT
 Marijuana and asthma

Quote:

>>I have been recently told that smoking pot may be beneficial to asthma
>>sufferers, ist this true?  If it is, can someone provide any literature.
>>Thank you all.

>This sounds kind of hard to believe.  I had pretty severe asthma as a
>child, and anything but fresh air was irritating to breathe -
>especially smoke.
>Just MHO, since I stopped having asthma problems years before I ever
>smoked dope.
>                                            - John Regehr

now i think the really obvious thing here is that you DON'T smoke it!!! it
IS possible to eat mj yer know... and it can actually be used in this form
as medication for a number of ailments such as asthma and epilepsy to name a
few...

Freako
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