Wondering if anyone has an educated idea of how much impact non-paying
patients, illegals, the cost of malpractice/liability insurance and
legal assistance, etc. really have on the cost of medical treatment?

If every patient paid their bill, if no one ever filed a specious
lawsuit and ambulance chasers didn't chase, how much impact would it
have on what everyone pays?

If things in this world were perfect especially including folks no
longer eating more than they need (32 ounces per day) there would no
longer be a healthcare crisis:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Your real name wouldn't be Fletcher, would it?

32 ounces...32 ounces of what?  Would 32 ounces of hay work?  Maybe
ice cream?  Is that before or after cooking?

It sounds like you're saying that it doesn't matter what someone eats
as long as they don't eat too much...you know, nonsense.

Please clarify in 30 words or less and resubmit.  Thanks.

R

No.

Food.

Hay is not food.

That is cooking.net">food so it should be weighed.

Ice cream is typically not cooked.

What keeps folks from understanding that 32 ounces of cooking.net">food is the
daily amount that we need is the "hunger is starvation" delusion:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Oh, okay, so all cooking.net">food is equal in your opinion.  That's all I needed
to hear.  Thanks.  Bye.

R

Just as you would get a ticket for speeding if you are going over the
speed limit not matter what you are driving.

RicodJour, can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

Right.  Yep, all cooking.net">food is equal nutritionally.  Keep up the good work.

Can you say, "My beliefs supersede my knowledge, and I have no problem
superseding my knowledge in an attempt to foist my beliefs on others"?

By the way, you bore me.  Stupidity, and not an opposing viewpoint,
has a tendency to do that to me.  Feel free to continue the thread on
your own.  Thanks.

R

GOD is right.

At the intestinal villi brush border, the nutrients in the digested
are absorbed in a precisely regulated fashion so that in folks who
have not overeated (eaten more than 32 ounces) only what is needed is
absorbed.

That would be in keeping with WDJW:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/good

Sad to note that you were unable to answer the simple yes/no question
with a written affirmative.

May GOD soften your heart, Rico, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of WDJW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_does_Jesus_want%3F

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?

[snip]

Your real name wouldn't be Fletcher, would it?

32 ounces...32 ounces of what?  Would 32 ounces of hay work?  Maybe
ice cream?  Is that before or after cooking?

It sounds like you're saying that it doesn't matter what someone eats
as long as they don't eat too much...you know, nonsense.

Please clarify in 30 words or less and resubmit.  Thanks.

R
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How about 32 ounces of boiling lard?

Robert Miles

Damn, now you're making me hungry for Burger King!  ;)

R

I just noticed that you're a Callahan's fan, Robert.
I noticed earlier that you were a voice of reason.  ;)

R

I just noticed that you're a Callahan's fan, Robert.
I noticed earlier that you were a voice of reason.  ;)

R

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Condidering some of the people who come to that newsgroup,
they need a voice of reason.

Robert Miles

I'm sure the wasted medical costs are more severe than
we experience in dentistry, but my WAG would be about
10-15% in dentistry and I would not be at all surprised
if the medical side wouldn't be 30% or more.

D

I suspect that this isn't what is driving up costs. It is very
difficult to sue a doctor or dentist because they are well protected
by laws such as arbitration requirements.
Ever tried to sue a doctor. And laws have been passed which put a cap
on damages. Most people without insurance end up getting charged 3 or
4 times more, so rather than being a drag on the system they are
really being robbed. So what is driving up costs? I suspect it's
probably the insurance companies themselves who are somehow skimming
or playing the system. I saw on TV where an industry spokesman was
trying to blame fat people for driving up costs. Yeah that's it, my
premium went up because people aren't staying away enough from
McDonalds!

It is the collective clinical experience of those of us who are
bona-fide actively licensed physicans caring for patients that
overeating (eating more than the needed 32 ounces per day) is the root
cause of most medical problems in the U.S.  It is when people stop
overeating that they stop having type-2 diabetes, hypertension, high
cholesterol, heart attacks, strokes, etc and start coming off all
their medications:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ...
... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !"

"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?

Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de?