Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders 
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 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

NDA Internaional, Inc. has supported Ibogaine research outside of the
Uited States for some years now.  Ibogaine is not approved by  FDA and not
available except in highly restricted research projects in the U.S.  It is
used in the treatment of substance-related disorders and in a two to four
day procedure interrupts both th physical withdrawal signs and in the
majority of cases the craving to continue to seek and use {*filter*}.  Thus,
researchers are left with the underlying pathology.  There is where the
difficulty comes in, we've got id of the substance-related disorder.  What
do you do with the underlying psychopathology?


Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders
    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders require
special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment and
service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through training
seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development. Our
systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services requires
change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons who
suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others through
the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are the
same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a free
packet of information including articles available for those who are
interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to post
up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take place
in various places across the country.  Example: june 5, 1995, Boston,
June, 24 Irving, Texas, August, Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

call 212-866-5935.


Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:

>Uited States for some years now.  Ibogaine is not approved by  FDA and not
>available except in highly restricted research projects in the U.S.  It is
>used in the treatment of substance-related disorders and in a two to four
>day procedure interrupts both th physical withdrawal signs and in the
>majority of cases the craving to continue to seek and use {*filter*}.  Thus,
>researchers are left with the underlying pathology.  There is where the
>difficulty comes in, we've got id of the substance-related disorder.  What
>do you do with the underlying psychopathology?

Sometimes it isn't a psychopathology. Sometimes drug abuse is an
unsuccessful attempt to self-medicate some biochemical malfunction,
such as an endocrine imbalance, or a brain biochemistry disorder.
--

Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
"The mind reigns, but does not govern" -- Paul Valery


Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:
Sciacca ) writes:

>    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders require
>special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment and
>service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
>settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through training
>seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development. Our
>systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services requires
>change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons who
>suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
through
>the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
>disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
>mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
>among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are the
>same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a free
>packet of information including articles available for those who are
>interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to post
>up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take place
>in various places across the country.  Example: June 5, 1995, Boston,
>Northamerican Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,

info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program Development
and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple Disorders,
Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June 24,1995.
August,Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
Quote:
>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

>call 212-866-5935.

August dual diagnosis events include:
1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot Springs,
Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who have Mental
Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995, 8:30 AM to
5:00 PM.
2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel. 703-836-2274.
"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with Dual/
Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.



Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:
Sciacca ) writes:


>Sciacca ) writes:

>>    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders require
>>special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment and
>>service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
>>settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through training
>>seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development. Our
>>systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services require
>>change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons
who
>>suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
>through
>>the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
>>disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
>>mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
>>among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are the
>>same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a free
>>packet of information including articles available for those who are
>>interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to post
>>up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take place
>>in various places across the country.  Example: June 5, 1995, Boston,
>>Northamerican Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,
>info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program Development
>and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple Disorders,
>Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June 24,1995.
>August,Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
>>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

>>call 212-866-5935.
>August dual diagnosis events include:
>1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot Springs,
>Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who have Mental
>Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995, 8:30 AM to
>5:00 PM.
>2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
>202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
>across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

>3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
>Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel. 703-836-2274.
>"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with Dual/
>Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.

 I look forward to hearing from you.


Mon, 01 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:
Sciacca ) writes:


>Sciacca ) writes:


(Kathleen
>>Sciacca ) writes:

>>>    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders
require
>>>special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment and
>>>service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
>>>settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through
training
>>>seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development. Our
>>>systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services require
>>>change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons
>who
>>>suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
>>through
>>>the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
>>>disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
>>>mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
>>>among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are the
>>>same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a free
>>>packet of information including articles available for those who are
>>>interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to post
>>>up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take
place
>>>in various places across the country.  Example:>>>Northamerican

Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,

- Show quoted text -

Quote:
>>info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program Development
>>and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple
Disorders,
>>Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June 24,1995.
>>August,Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
>>>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

or
>>>call 212-866-5935.
>>August dual diagnosis events include:
>>1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot
Springs,
>>Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who have Mental
>>Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995, 8:30 AM to
>>5:00 PM.
>>2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
>>202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
>>across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

>>3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
>>Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel. 703-836-2274.
>>"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with Dual/
>>Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.

> I look forward to hearing from you.



Fri, 05 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders
In using Ibogaine, an experimental drug, to treat substance-related
disorders, we have found that we can interrupt the substance-related
disorder across a broad spectrum of chemical dependence in a two to four
day procedure.  However, in all cases we are then left with the underlying
psychopathology.  The severity may range from moderate neurosis to
personality disorders that we have found  not to be open to moderation by
any form of treatment we know.  Any suggestions would be helpful.  And to
the author of the post,  we would be most appreciative to be kept informed
about issues of dual diagnosis.


Fri, 05 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders
: In using Ibogaine, an experimental drug, to treat substance-related
: disorders, we have found that we can interrupt the substance-related
: disorder across a broad spectrum of chemical dependence in a two to four
: day procedure.  However, in all cases we are then left with the underlying
: psychopathology.  The severity may range from moderate neurosis to
: personality disorders that we have found  not to be open to moderation by
: any form of treatment we know.  Any suggestions would be helpful.  And to
: the author of the post,  we would be most appreciative to be kept informed
: about issues of dual diagnosis.

I agree with you that simply treating the {*filter*}ion does nothing to
alleviate the underlying psychopathology. As a matter of fact, when the
self-medicating ceases, the symptomatology of the person's particular
problems become more pronounced, but also finally available to treatment.

But I STRONGLY DISAGREE with your statement that personality disorders
have been found "not to be open to moderation by any form of
treatment we know". Personality disorders are certainly treatable, but
it's not a quick fix, often requiring many years of intensive therapy.
These clients tend to often get written off by therapists who often feel
frustrated at the slow pace of treatment and the long time it takes to
begin to see results.

In the real world, those without independent sources of money probably can't
afford the work anyway, as no insurance that I know of will cover the length
and frequency necessary and of course community mental health is not an
option, at least in
California where I practice. It is only available to those who are actively
suicidal, homicidal or acutely psychotic.

So, while the reality is that it's very difficult for those with severe
personality disorders to get the treatment they need, let's not pretend
that they're untreatable, only that we (as therapists, community, etc)
don't have or choose to spend our personal (internal) or financial
resources on this sometimes-difficult population.

This is a political choice we, as a society, make. Let's not put all the
blame on personality-disordered clients. They get blamed for plenty already!

Susan Wachob, LCSW

--



Sat, 06 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:
Sciacca ) writes:


>Sciacca ) writes:


(Kathleen
>>Sciacca ) writes:


>(Kathleen
>>>Sciacca ) writes:

>>>>    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders
>require
>>>>special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment
and
>>>>service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
>>>>settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through
>training
>>>>seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development. Our
>>>>systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services require
>>>>change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons
>>who
>>>>suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
>>>through
>>>>the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
>>>>disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
>>>>mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
>>>>among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are
the
>>>>same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a free
>>>>packet of information including articles available for those who
are
>>>>interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to
post
>>>>up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take
>place
>>>>in various places across the country.  Example:>>>Northamerican
>Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,
>>>info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program
Development
>>>and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple
>Disorders,
>>>Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June 24,1995.
>>>August,Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
>>>>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

>or
>>>>call 212-866-5935.
>>>August dual diagnosis events include:
>>>1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot
>Springs,
>>>Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who have
Mental
>>>Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995, 8:30 AM to
>>>5:00 PM.
>>>2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
>>>202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
>>>across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

>>>3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
>>>Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel.
703-836-2274.
>>>"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with Dual/
>>>Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.

>> I look forward to hearing from you soon.>



Fri, 12 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:

>>(Kathleen
>>>>Sciacca ) writes:

>>>>>    Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders
>>require
>>>>>special interventions.  Education and training for the treatment
>and
>>>>>service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in academic
>>>>>settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through
>>training
>>>>>seminars, workshops, on-going training and program development.
Our
>>>>>systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services require
>>>>>change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons
>>>who
>>>>>suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
>>>>through
>>>>>the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with dual
>>>>>disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
>>>>>mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
>>>>>among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are
>the
>>>>>same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a
free
>>>>>packet of information including articles available for those who
>are
>>>>>interested.  Also would like to find a place on the internet to
>post
>>>>>up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take
>>place
>>>>>in various places across the country.  Example:>>>Northamerican
>>Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,
>>>>info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program
>Development
>>>>and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple
>>Disorders,
>>>>Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June 24,1995.
>>>>August,Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.
>>>>>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail

>>or
>>>>>call 212-866-5935.
>>>>August dual diagnosis events include:
>>>>1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot
>>Springs,
>>>>Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who have
>Mental
>>>>Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995, 8:30 AM to
>>>>5:00 PM.
>>>>2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
>>>>202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
>>>>across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

>>>>3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
>>>>Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel.
>703-836-2274.
>>>>"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with
Dual/
>>>>Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.

>>> I look forward to hearing from you soon.>

The training program in Hot Springs Arkansas is shaping up to be quite
a thorough event.  On August 9, "cross-training" of mental health and
substance abuse providers, with day two for both disciplines.  Day two
will include treatment methods, program development, and a thorough
review of the issues of dual diagnosis.  For information and
registration call: 501-372-7062.

Please continue to e-mail for free packets.



Sun, 21 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 Dual Diagnosis of Mental Illness & Substance Disorders

Quote:
Sciacca ) writes:


>>>(Kathleen
>>>>>Sciacca ) writes:

  Dual diagnosis of mental illness and substance dissorders
require special interventions.  Education and training for the
treatment and service delivery for dual disorders is not provided in
academic settings or across disciplines.  It must now be done through
training seminars, workshops, on-going training and program
development.
Quote:
>Our systems of mental health and {*filter*}ion treatment services require

change and the development of "comprehensive" services for persons
who suffer from dual disorders.  I am interested in locating others
through the internet who are interested in this area.  Persons with
dual disorders require advocacy.  They are often rejected from both the
mental health side and the substance abuse side.  Many of them are
among the homeless across the country. The underlying issues are
the same across the country and internationally.  The writer has a
free packet of information including articles available for those who
are interested.  

    Also would like to find a place on the internet to
post up-coming training and conferences on this topic that will take
place in various places across the country.  Example:  Northamerican
Assoc. of Masters in Psychology, Annual Convention,
info. call: 518-270-2221,June, 24 Irving, Texas, "Program
Development and Integrated Treatment for Persons who have Dual/Multiple
Disorders, Mental ILLness, Drug {*filter*}ion and/or {*filter*}ism," June
24,1995.
August 1995, Denver, NYC, and Hot Springs Arkansas.

Quote:
>>>>>>For information or networking respond to writer via e-mail


      requested,or call 212-866-5935.
Quote:
>>>>>August dual diagnosis events include:

    1. Mental Health Council of Arkansas: Tel.: 501-372-7062, Hot
    Springs, Arkansas.."Developing Integrated Programs for Persons who
have Mental Illness, Drug {*filter*}ion and {*filter*}ism, August 10, 1995,
8:30 AM to5:00 PM.
Quote:
>>>>>2. American Psychological Association 1995 Convention, NYC. Tel.:
>>>>>202-336-5500. Film and Discussion: "Integrated Treatment for MIDAA
>>>>>across Alaska." August 14, 11 AM to 12:30 PM, Hilton Hotel, NYC.

>>>>>3. American Association for Partial Hospitalization, 1995 Annual
>>>>>Meeting and Training conference. Denver, Colorado, Tel.
     703-836-2274.
>>>>>"Integrated Treatment and Program Development for Persons with
>Dual/Multiple Disorders." August 19, 1995.

    I look forward to hearing from you soon.>
Quote:

>The training program in Hot Springs Arkansas is shaping up to be quite
>a thorough event.  On August 9, "cross-training" of mental health and
>substance abuse providers, with day two for both disciplines.  Day two
>will include treatment methods, program development, and a thorough
>review of the issues of dual diagnosis.  For information and
>registration call: 501-372-7062.
>Please continue to e-mail for free packets.



Wed, 31 Dec 1997 03:00:00 GMT
 
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